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What is The Biggest, Most Imminent, Geopolitical Threat To The United States?

Russia
33
13%
China
17
7%
North Korea
2
1%
ISIS
13
5%
Climate Change
45
18%
Iran
1
0%
Immigrants/Refugees
12
5%
Domestic Terror
12
5%
Hillary Clinton
46
18%
Donald Trump
75
29%
 
Total votes : 256

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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:37 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austiana wrote:So the Western world isn't 80-90% white?

No. Not all.
Sarcasm? Or just a genuine denial of demographics?
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:37 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?


We end up with a Bush-Gore scenario where all the votes have to be recounted.

It won't, the states would need to have close results.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:38 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:CNN says that Trump's claim that the state department lost 6 billion is false.

The snap poll said that Clinton is better on the economy than Trump 50%-48%

Isn't that the thing that Trump was supposed to do better then Clinton being a business man and all.


His business? Who knows? Needs some tax forms to see.

There was a site offering over $6 million cash to be given to Veterans charities if Trump released his taxes with a deadline of tonight. Looks like he's got something to hide.

http://people.com/politics/crowdfunding ... 6-million/
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:38 pm

Austiana wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No. Not all.
Sarcasm? Or just a genuine denial of demographics?

The western world is not 80% white. The USA alone isn't any where near 80%
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austiana wrote:Sarcasm? Or just a genuine denial of demographics?

The western world is not 80% white. The USA alone isn't any where near 80%
If you consider that the US is 60% White (non-Hispanic) and Europe, Canada & Australia are about 90% white, then yes - that's a pretty accurate figure.
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:40 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:Anybody notice Trump's eyes at the beginning of the debate? They looked red and one was less open than the other for a good ten minutes. What the fuck was that about?


Let's play "what drug was Donald on this time" shall we?

He was a lot more sedate than in either of the other two debates. Almost "low energy". But it's not necessarily drugs, he could just be tired. Knowing this debate was his last chance, he may have had a sleepless night or two.
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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:40 pm

Austiana wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?

Would it be an Al Gore style challenge, demanding a recount? Or a law suit against the FEC? Or something else?

I was thinking more in terms of him refusing to concede even after the votes were counted. You heard him. This election is rigged (if he doesn't win).
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:40 pm

Austiana wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The western world is not 80% white. The USA alone isn't any where near 80%
If you consider that the US is 60% White (non-Hispanic) and Europe, Canada & Australia are about 90% white, then yes - that's a pretty accurate figure.


People are people anyway. Ask a blind guy and he'll tell it straight.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:41 pm

Corrian wrote:You know, I'm finding Jill Stein supporters some of the most annoying supporters this election cycle.

Then support Joe Exotic :P
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:41 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Austiana wrote:Would it be an Al Gore style challenge, demanding a recount? Or a law suit against the FEC? Or something else?

I was thinking more in terms of him refusing to concede even after the votes were counted. You heard him. This election is rigged (if he doesn't win).
A violent uprising? I doubt it. Probably just an excuse to sell more products, books and get views for his new TV channel he's going to start up (apparently).
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:41 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Corrian wrote:You know, I'm finding Jill Stein supporters some of the most annoying supporters this election cycle.

Then support Joe Exotic :P

He's broke as shit, though. :?
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:41 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Austiana wrote:If you consider that the US is 60% White (non-Hispanic) and Europe, Canada & Australia are about 90% white, then yes - that's a pretty accurate figure.


People are people anyway. Ask a blind guy and he'll tell it straight.
Of course, I agree. But demographics are demographics, also.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:42 pm

Austiana wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The western world is not 80% white. The USA alone isn't any where near 80%
If you consider that the US is 60% White (non-Hispanic) and Europe, Canada & Australia are about 90% white, then yes - that's a pretty accurate figure.

The entirety of Mexico, Central, and South America doesn't exist in your world?
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:42 pm

Austiana wrote:So the Western world isn't 80-90% white?


It is becoming less White every year, which I find to be very concerning. Many are content to ignore the trajectory of change which is happening but I see the writing on the wall- eventually, not a single corner of the planet will remain majority White. This might pan out but it might not. I don't count on any miracles so I take a pessimistic view of White prospects over the long term.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:42 pm

Interestingly according to CNN's focus group more men approved Clinton's attack on Trump over Putin than women.

However 10 people said that they are more likely to vote for Trump.

Also the Snap poll said that 23% of people where more likely to vote for Trump, 22% said Clinton, while 54% said no change.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:43 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Anybody notice Trump's eyes at the beginning of the debate? They looked red and one was less open than the other for a good ten minutes. What the fuck was that about?


Let's play "what drug was Donald on this time" shall we?

He was a lot more sedate than in either of the other two debates. Almost "low energy". But it's not necessarily drugs, he could just be tired. Knowing this debate was his last chance, he may have had a sleepless night or two.


I'll start the bidding with a 1 mg. dose of Alprazolam plus three shots of Trump "rot gut" Vodka.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:43 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Austiana wrote:If you consider that the US is 60% White (non-Hispanic) and Europe, Canada & Australia are about 90% white, then yes - that's a pretty accurate figure.

The entirety of Mexico, Central, and South America doesn't exist in your world?

I don't think they were talking about the Western Hemisphere since Europe was included.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:43 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Then support Joe Exotic :P

He's broke as shit, though. :?


Good. His taxreturns will not contain nasty surprises ;)
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:44 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Austiana wrote:If you consider that the US is 60% White (non-Hispanic) and Europe, Canada & Australia are about 90% white, then yes - that's a pretty accurate figure.

The entirety of Mexico, Central, and South America doesn't exist in your world?
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:44 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The entirety of Mexico, Central, and South America doesn't exist in your world?

I don't think they were talking about the Western Hemisphere since Europe was included.

This, also.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:45 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Bullshit. You're just feeding into Clinton's "deplorable" remarks. That is not true. Some, yes, may be racist. But 39% is way too high


You'd be surprised. I think there are a good number of racist people in this country. When being white, once more, is complexion of our country, then you will see just how many white people believe what i believe. How many white people, when they are free to speak their mind, will proudly say that they are white, and that their country is a white country. and that it belongs to the white race.

A trump election might just do that.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:45 pm

Austiana wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I don't think they were talking about the Western Hemisphere since Europe was included.

This, also.


Topic?
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:45 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Austiana wrote:So the Western world isn't 80-90% white?


It is becoming less White every year, which I find to be very concerning. Many are content to ignore the trajectory of change which is happening but I see the writing on the wall- eventually, not a single corner of the planet will remain majority White. This might pan out but it might not. I don't count on any miracles so I take a pessimistic view of White prospects over the long term.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:46 pm

New West Guiana wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
You'd be surprised. I think there are a good number of racist people in this country. When being white, once more, is complexion of our country, then you will see just how many white people believe what i believe. How many white people, when they are free to speak their mind, will proudly say that they are white, and that their country is a white country. and that it belongs to the white race.


And there are more white people(like myself) who would love for the police to stop protecting the nazis and KKK so we can beat the crap out of them.

So maybe you should stop thinking you speak for all white people in the US,


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Postby Uiiop » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:47 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Is she not the doctor who refuses to speak up against the "vaccines cause autism" and "9/11 was an inside job" crap ?


The vaccine talking point has been long debunked, and Stein never said 9/11 was an inside job, just that there are things about the American government protecting people involved that they aren't telling us about.

Since She thinks the mercury issue is serious no it hasn't. As for the latter i assume you have proof of this...can you show it to us?
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