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What is The Biggest, Most Imminent, Geopolitical Threat To The United States?

Russia
33
13%
China
17
7%
North Korea
2
1%
ISIS
13
5%
Climate Change
45
18%
Iran
1
0%
Immigrants/Refugees
12
5%
Domestic Terror
12
5%
Hillary Clinton
46
18%
Donald Trump
75
29%
 
Total votes : 256

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I'm confused now.

Green and Trump supporters are clashing behind the CNN stage


I'd give the edge to the group with the most Neanderthal DNA.
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Postby Galborea » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:30 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I feel extremely weird when I'm in a extremely white area


Avoid Iowa then.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:30 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Jill Steins supporters are pissed as fuck


Why yes, I am pissed that the only candidate who isn't a corporatist or a warmonger and actually cares about the environment has zero chance of winning.


Is she not the doctor who refuses to speak up against the "vaccines cause autism" and "9/11 was an inside job" crap ?
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Postby Othelos » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:30 pm

Neutraligon wrote:I'm from the DC area, and when I first moved to Utah , it felt so weird to see so little diversity. THe school itself was OK due to foreign students, but there was so little elsewhere. It felt wrong, like something was missing.

That's exactly how I felt.

It was strange, like I had reversed time by a couple of decades.

Thermodolia wrote:I feel extremely weird when I'm in a extremely white area

I wouldn't go that far, but it did feel odd to me. I don't get the appeal of a 100% white nation.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:32 pm

Austiana wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Avoid Iowa then.

Or most of the developed, Western world.

Ya no.


Jerzylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I feel extremely weird when I'm in a extremely white area


Avoid Iowa then.

Don't worry I will. I like Atlanta.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:32 pm

Galborea wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Avoid Iowa then.

Explains the Slipknot fanbase

I got some Norwegian family there.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:32 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Penguin Union Nation wrote:
Why yes, I am pissed that the only candidate who isn't a corporatist or a warmonger and actually cares about the environment has zero chance of winning.


Is she not the doctor who refuses to speak up against the "vaccines cause autism" crap ?

Not quite. It's more like she plays with the issue. Declaring her support for vaccines, but answering questions in a way that gives the anti-vaxxers some breathing room.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:32 pm

So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?
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Postby Godular » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:33 pm

Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?


We all get a good long laugh at his expense.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:33 pm

Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?


He becomes the punchline to about 10 billion jokes.
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:33 pm

Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?

Would it be an Al Gore style challenge, demanding a recount? Or a law suit against the FEC? Or something else?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:33 pm

Thermodolia wrote:CNN says that Trump's claim that the state department lost 6 billion is false.

The snap poll said that Clinton is better on the economy than Trump 50%-48%

Isn't that the thing that Trump was supposed to do better then Clinton being a business man and all.
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Postby Othelos » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:34 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Othelos wrote:You know, I recently visited my grandparents in rural-ish northern Virginia, and when I realized that almost everyone I saw was white, I felt like the normal diversity that colors my everyday life was missing. Different perspectives and micro-cultures associated with non-whites just wasn't around. It was just one big wash of white people. (For the record, I am white.)

Needless to say, I didn't get the appeal - how is it better to have an all-white country than a diverse country?


Crime rates are lower in less diverse white countries, countries are more unified in homogenous nations in general.

Hard to have ethnic or cultural conflict in a homogeneous nation.

The US has never been homogeneous and it never will be; it's extremely big and has different cultures within and between races. Besides, the US almost split up once, and that was the doing of a nation almost entirely white. So, that argument doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
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Postby Austiana » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:34 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austiana wrote:Or most of the developed, Western world.

Ya no.
So the Western world isn't 80-90% white?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:34 pm

Othelos wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:I'm from the DC area, and when I first moved to Utah , it felt so weird to see so little diversity. THe school itself was OK due to foreign students, but there was so little elsewhere. It felt wrong, like something was missing.

That's exactly how I felt.

It was strange, like I had reversed time by a couple of decades.

Thermodolia wrote:I feel extremely weird when I'm in a extremely white area

I wouldn't go that far, but it did feel odd to me. I don't get the appeal of a 100% white nation.

I live in a African American and Hispanic majority area. So ya it feels fucking strange.
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Postby Penguin Union Nation » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:34 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Penguin Union Nation wrote:
Why yes, I am pissed that the only candidate who isn't a corporatist or a warmonger and actually cares about the environment has zero chance of winning.


Is she not the doctor who refuses to speak up against the "vaccines cause autism" and "9/11 was an inside job" crap ?


The vaccine talking point has been long debunked, and Stein never said 9/11 was an inside job, just that there are things about the American government protecting people involved that they aren't telling us about.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:34 pm

Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?

He can call for recounts at the state level. There is no such thing as a national recall. Some states have laws that trigger recounts if the candidates are within 1% or something.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:35 pm

Austiana wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?

Would it be an Al Gore style challenge, demanding a recount? Or a law suit against the FEC? Or something else?

Suing the FEC makes no sense since they don't count the votes. He'd have to sue a whole bunch of state governments if that's the route he chooses.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:35 pm

You know, I'm finding Jill Stein supporters some of the most annoying supporters this election cycle.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:35 pm

Austiana wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya no.
So the Western world isn't 80-90% white?

No. Not all.
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Postby Jovuistan » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:36 pm

Corrian wrote:You know, I'm finding Jill Stein supporters some of the most annoying supporters this election cycle.

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Postby Arlenton » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:36 pm

Austiana wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?

Would it be an Al Gore style challenge, demanding a recount? Or a law suit against the FEC? Or something else?

No, since his loss won't even be close.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:36 pm

Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?


We end up with a Bush-Gore scenario where all the votes have to be recounted.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:37 pm

Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?

Nothing, really. He bloviates for four to eight years which will be much longer than anyone pays attention.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:37 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:So, what actually happens if Trump contests the election on November 8?


We end up with a Bush-Gore scenario where all the votes have to be recounted.

Depends if the state's let him
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