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What is The Biggest, Most Imminent, Geopolitical Threat To The United States?

Russia
33
13%
China
17
7%
North Korea
2
1%
ISIS
13
5%
Climate Change
45
18%
Iran
1
0%
Immigrants/Refugees
12
5%
Domestic Terror
12
5%
Hillary Clinton
46
18%
Donald Trump
75
29%
 
Total votes : 256

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:21 pm

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Corrian wrote:Considering the post-debate bounce was expected to be at 2 to 4% in a narrow race, and Clinton has managed to gain 7% instead, Trump clearly doesn't know how to gain anything.


Trump's more used to getting things by destroying a current venture and then getting his lawyers to suck off all the money from its corpse.


So he's trying to destroy the GOP to then get his lawyers to suck off all the money from the rotten remains of what once was one of the two most powerful parties in America?
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:22 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Trump's more used to getting things by destroying a current venture and then getting his lawyers to suck off all the money from its corpse.


So he's trying to destroy the GOP to then get his lawyers to suck off all the money from the rotten remains of what once was one of the two most powerful parties in America?


Probably. And use that money to fund Trump News.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:My bet is that Trump will not be reaching his ceiling. If anything, he is going to reach his floor or close to it- which is roughly 38%. He will have to really work at it to go any lower, but I think he could manage to fall if more Trump controversies get leaked and he is seen as being so outrageous by almost everyone to varying degrees.


I don't think he'll be that low but, as I said earlier, his ceiling his 45% in my opinion. That said, I think he'll be somewhere between 42-44%, like some have said on here.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:23 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Trump's more used to getting things by destroying a current venture and then getting his lawyers to suck off all the money from its corpse.


So he's trying to destroy the GOP to then get his lawyers to suck off all the money from the rotten remains of what once was one of the two most powerful parties in America?

The Republican party is now a shell of its former self.
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:23 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
So he's trying to destroy the GOP to then get his lawyers to suck off all the money from the rotten remains of what once was one of the two most powerful parties in America?

The Republican party is now a shell of its former self.

Or it's a snake that's shed it's old skin.
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Postby New West Guiana » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:24 pm

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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:25 pm

Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:26 pm


The Indiana incident comes amid heightened scrutiny of voting systems ahead of the general election on Nov. 8.

You know, that's a point. What are the chances that loads of incidents of voting fuck ups are going to come to light with the recent spotlight of voter fraud that might have gone otherwise unnoticed for years, perhaps.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:26 pm

:rofl: Trump is in Colorado saying that he "doesn't believe in the polls anymore" and insists that he is "doing great." He is now in his own bubble with a don't care attitude. The polls are almost certainly correct but he is too much of an idiot to recognize he's way behind and make any kind of attempt at a course correction.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:27 pm



Barack Obama’s half-brother Malik will show his support for Donald Trump at the third presidential debate on Wednesday.

The Kenyan-born man, who is also a U.S. citizen, announced in July he would vote for the Republican nominee. Now he tells the New York Post he is “excited” to attend the debate in Las Vegas and believes Trump “can make America Great Again.” Trump tells the Post his guest “gets it far better than his brother.”

The Trump campaign confirmed to TIME that Malik would be the candidate’s guest.

Malik told the Post he does not believe the women who have come forward to accuse Trump of sexual misconduct, asking, “Why didn’t they come forward before?” He found fault with Hillary Clinton’s work as Secretary of State, claiming that Muammar Gaddafi had been a friend and adding, “Check out the situation in Libya now.”

He says his most recent visit with his half-brother at the White House in 2015 was a “hands-off kind of thing, very businesslike, very formal.” Malik has expressed resentment that Barack Obama has not helped him with his foundation to support the family’s village of Kogelo, Kenya. In 2013, he unsuccessfully ran for governor of the western Kenyan county of Siaya.


With Obama's approval in the high 50s? Great idea Trump.

The only way this could be damaging to Hillary is if it turns out she had a secret affair with Malik and there's an illegitimate child out there somewhere.
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Postby New West Guiana » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:29 pm

Saiwania wrote::rofl: Trump is in Colorado saying that he "doesn't believe in the polls anymore" and insists that he is "doing great." He is now in his own bubble with a don't care attitude. The polls are almost certainly correct but he is too much of an idiot to recognize he's way behind and make any kind of attempt at a course correction.

Trumps lived in his own bubble since his daddy gave him that small loan, and his supporters have for eight years lived in another. Now the two have merged into the biggest clusterfuck since the 1960's(lets hope it stays at the 1960s and not 1860s).
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:30 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:The Republican party is now a shell of its former self.

Or it's a snake that's shed it's old skin.

That's only a shadow of its former glory.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:32 pm


Further proof that Lyin' Hillary was probably lying when she said she admired Trump's parenting. :p
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Postby New West Guiana » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:32 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Or it's a snake that's shed it's old skin.

That's only a shadow of its former glory.

Which period? The time between the 1860s to the early 20th Century or the GOP of the 50s?
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:32 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Or it's a snake that's shed it's old skin.

That's only a shadow of its former glory.


I think at this point the GOP is virtually an Ouroboros. :p
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:33 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Or it's a snake that's shed it's old skin.

That's only a shadow of its former glory.

I like my analogy better.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:34 pm

New West Guiana wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:That's only a shadow of its former glory.

Which period? The time between the 1860s to the early 20th Century or the GOP of the 50s?

The entire history of the party since Lincoln, where it accomplished many deeds, but then the New Republicans completely overhauled the party with Reagan, with Nixon transitioning it that way. Trump makes matters even worse for them.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:34 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:That's only a shadow of its former glory.


I think at this point the GOP is virtually an Ouroboros. :p


That looks like a Krispy Kreme.
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Postby New West Guiana » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:34 pm

Watching CNN Trump supporters trying to chant "Lock her up" Hillary supporters chanting over them "We're with her".

Watch Trump say, "Look my supporters are being unfairly bullied by crooked Hillarys supporters, when I'm president her supporters will also be jailed."
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:35 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:That's only a shadow of its former glory.

I like my analogy better.


When snakes shed they tend to renew themselves. Can't say the same about the GOP.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:35 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:That's only a shadow of its former glory.

I like my analogy better.

I would add that it's only a shadow of its former self because it's left weaker and more vulnerable.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:36 pm

New West Guiana wrote:Watching CNN Trump supporters trying to chant "Lock her up" Hillary supporters chanting over them "We're with her".

Watch Trump say, "Look my supporters are being unfairly bullied by crooked Hillarys supporters, when I'm president her supporters will also be jailed."


Trump would probably try to have Hillary publicly executed on live TV.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:36 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New West Guiana wrote:Watching CNN Trump supporters trying to chant "Lock her up" Hillary supporters chanting over them "We're with her".

Watch Trump say, "Look my supporters are being unfairly bullied by crooked Hillarys supporters, when I'm president her supporters will also be jailed."


Trump would probably try to have Hillary publicly executed on live TV.

Well, he is all about ratings.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:36 pm

New West Guiana wrote:Watching CNN Trump supporters trying to chant "Lock her up" Hillary supporters chanting over them "We're with her".

Watch Trump say, "Look my supporters are being unfairly bullied by crooked Hillarys supporters, when I'm president her supporters will also be jailed."

Please please tell me Trump didn't actually say that?!
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