US Gen. Election Thread V: The Hunt for Red October Surprise

[Saiwania]

I hope that Trump tanks the GOP to almost the maximum extent possible because I calculate that it could give the establishment wing the leverage to really purge the party of the alt right and the Trump supporters and enablers. The party has to be retaken from whichever group hijacked it in order to rebuild itself.

[San Lumen]

I hope that Trump tanks the GOP to almost the maximum extent possible because I calculate that it could give the establishment wing the leverage to really purge the party of the alt right and the Trump supporters and enablers. The party has to be retaken from whichever group hijacked it in order to rebuild itself.

I hope so and they aren't able to recover for 2018. President Obama has already said he will help lead initiatives against gerrymandering after he leaves office.

[Gauthier]

Apparently, the Democrats have been comitting voter fraud....

Oh goody, another unsourced video by a guy famed for lying in his unsourced videos? Well I believe that, down with Hillary!

And while you're at it Defund ACORN!!

[Freefall11111]

Oh goody, another unsourced video by a guy famed for lying in his unsourced videos? Well I believe that, down with Hillary!

And while you're at it Defund ACORN!!

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

[Implacable Death]

And while you're at it Defund ACORN!!

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

[Eol Sha]

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

I do suppose lying and manipulation is relatively innocent compared to slavery. Doesn't make it okay.

[Freefall11111]

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

O'Keefe is not a Republican and he's not innocent (he's been to court and was convicted).

But sure, I'll immediately stop pointing out that he's an idiot who destroyed an organisation over literally nothing. I'm buying an airplane ticket and flying to Saudi Arabia tomorrow. I'm sure I'll be able to help all of the political opposition there.

[Cannot think of a name]

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

That's unfocused even by unfocused rage standards.

[Valaran]

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

"We can't criticise bullshit right in front of our noses, because some other random bullshit is happening far away."

[Freefall11111]

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

"We can't criticise bullshit right in front of our noses, because some other random bullshit is happening far away."

Sounds exactly like the type of person who would say, "You can't be depressed! There are people starving and dying from war out there! How dare you!"

[Gauthier]

"We can't criticise bullshit right in front of our noses, because some other random bullshit is happening far away."

Sounds exactly like the type of person who would say, "You can't be depressed! There are people starving and dying from war out there! How dare you!"

Relative Privation FTW.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

We should also legalise alcohol, extend the vote to women. and ban slavery.

Then to to Saudi Arabia and fight for that cause there. Don't bother people in a place where all of that is perfectly fine. But you won't, will you? You'd rather scream at Republicans for relatively innocent things than go out there and actually work on real problems.

What does Saudi Arabia has to do in any semblance whatsoever with the United States' political and social climate?

Unless of course you're saying the United States IS Saudi Arabia in which case I have to wonder where have you been the last three centuries, or in fact if you're even aware of the social situation in America right now.

There are problems over here in America that, while hidden from plain sight, are real problems. I convinced a friend to join AmeriCorps the other day because she was doing a soul search as to whether or not she could go into the Peace Corps because it'd take her away from the United States, which she considers her home. I recommended AmeriCorps because it'll throw her either into the United States, one of our territories, or one of our allies in areas of need. Which is far better suited for her outlooks to be honest. And I am trying to schedule a day to go to a school here in Dallas where homeless children go and learn, and are supported by volunteers.

Unlike yourself, who can only sit here and whine that other people do nothing, some of us are out there raising awareness of issues and trying to help and also have the time to tell you that you're wrong.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

"We can't criticise bullshit right in front of our noses, because some other random bullshit is happening far away."

Sounds exactly like the type of person who would say, "You can't be depressed! There are people starving and dying from war out there! How dare you!"

I like to compare it to the Starving Children in Africa dilemma:

"Why are you not eating your food? There are children starving in Africa who'd want your meal!"

Let's be honest for a moment and let's realize that, if you have to compare a child not liking their food to waste that could go to children in Africa, you neither care for the child nor the children in Africa.

[New West Guiana]

Let's not forget that voter fraud isn't that common either is rather difficult to replicate on the national level.

Not just difficult, but almost impossibly difficult. Like one in millions difficult.

No, more like 31 in 1 billion to be exact.

Trump and Pence both say there is massive voter fraud, however in 2014 a professor at the Loyola Law School, Justin Levitt, concluded through comprehensive research, that out of 1 billion votes cast since 2000, he could only find 31 cases of voter fraud.

So far, I’ve found about 31 different incidents (some of which involve multiple ballots) since 2000, anywhere in the country. If you want to check my work, you can read a comprehensive list of the incidents below.

To put this in perspective, the 31 incidents below come in the context of general, primary, special, and municipal elections from 2000 through 2014. In general and primary elections alone, more than 1 billion ballots were cast in that period.

[Galloism]

Giant blowhard no one should listen to makes documentary film about giant blowhard no one should listen to.

[New West Guiana]

"We can't criticise bullshit right in front of our noses, because some other random bullshit is happening far away."

Sounds exactly like the type of person who would say, "You can't be depressed! There are people starving and dying from war out there! How dare you!"

A better analogy would be, "We can't help the homeless here because there are poor hungry people in Africa that need help first." Actually that is the enter US Foreign policy summed up.

[Freefall11111]

Sounds exactly like the type of person who would say, "You can't be depressed! There are people starving and dying from war out there! How dare you!"

A better analogy would be, "We can't help the homeless here because there are poor hungry people in Africa that need help first." Actually that is the enter US Foreign policy summed up.

No, not really.

[New West Guiana]

Giant blowhard no one should listen to makes documentary film about giant blowhard no one should listen to.

Moore has several times stated on facebook he would rather have Trump win, never really said why, but like any Hollywood star all the money he could make like he did under Bush.

[Cannot think of a name]

Giant blowhard no one should listen to makes documentary film about giant blowhard no one should listen to.

For once I'm ahead of the curve!

[New West Guiana]

A better analogy would be, "We can't help the homeless here because there are poor hungry people in Africa that need help first." Actually that is the enter US Foreign policy summed up.

No, not really.

You're right duh, we can't spend money on poor people because it's better spent on pointless wars.

[Freefall11111]

No, not really.

You're right duh, we can't spend money on poor people because it's better spent on pointless wars.

Money isn't redirected from homeless spending in the US to Africa based on the logic that we need to help those worst off. Aid is used as leverage and for political stabilisation. States aren't benevolent in foreign policy, every move is (intended to be) purely in the interest of either the state or its allies.

[Gauthier]

Giant blowhard no one should listen to makes documentary film about giant blowhard no one should listen to.

Blowception. Anyone want to picture that?

[Saiwania]

President Obama has already said he will help lead initiatives against gerrymandering after he leaves office.

I'm okay with gerrymandering for the most part, with the caveat that the effect is temporary rather than being a permanent advantage. It makes sense from my perspective that if a party wins during a census year that they could tilt the political map very slightly to their favor. If a political party consistently wins, they get to reap the rewards of being in power. I'd expect that the Democrats would be able to do gerrymandering of their own and it isn't exclusive to Republicans.

[Eastern Equestria]

Apparently, the Democrats have been comitting voter fraud....

The two Democratic officials outed in O'Keefe's videos (Scott Foval and Bob Creamer) have both either been fired or stepped down from their positions within the party.

[New West Guiana]

Since I live in one of those battle ground states I just saw a new Trump add that left me

It starts off with a picture of Hillary being sworn in as Sec. of State and the voice over says, "Hillary placed her hand on the Bible to uphold the truth, but she lied about Benghazi, lied about taking sniper fire in Bosnia and lied about her emails, why should we believe that she will support and defend the Constitution?"

First off where in the hell does in the oath say you'll tell the truth?