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What is The Biggest, Most Imminent, Geopolitical Threat To The United States?

Russia
33
13%
China
17
7%
North Korea
2
1%
ISIS
13
5%
Climate Change
45
18%
Iran
1
0%
Immigrants/Refugees
12
5%
Domestic Terror
12
5%
Hillary Clinton
46
18%
Donald Trump
75
29%
 
Total votes : 256

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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:06 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Thanks to email leaks we know Hillary wants open trade and open borders.

Good.

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Postby Christian Conservatism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:07 pm

Deplorable was almost as bad as the Wall Street speaches leak. She actually had the nerve to call innocent Americans deplorable just because she thinks theyre racist and sexist. I don't hear her calling ISIS deplorable. She needs to get priorities straight.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:07 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Deplorable was almost as bad as the Wall Street speaches leak. She actually had the nerve to call innocent Americans deplorable just because she thinks theyre racist and sexist. I don't hear her calling ISIS deplorable. She needs to get priorities straight.

You haven't been listening then.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:08 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:In Florida, self proclaimed swingiest swing state, Hillary has the edge. The latest Marist poll had her up by 3 points.

Which pretty much means Trump has the edge, if you actually bother to unskew the poll.

Lmfao.

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Postby The Adonalsium » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:11 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Deplorable was almost as bad as the Wall Street speaches leak. She actually had the nerve to call innocent Americans deplorable just because she thinks theyre racist and sexist. I don't hear her calling ISIS deplorable. She needs to get priorities straight.


I feel like Hillary Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" is pretty much true. Especially now. there are no innocent americans under white sheets
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:12 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:In Florida, self proclaimed swingiest swing state, Hillary has the edge. The latest Marist poll had her up by 3 points.

Which pretty much means Trump has the edge, if you actually bother to unskew the poll.


Marist College are A rated pollsters, with a bias of R+0.7

So if you want to go unskewing results, it's Clinton up FOUR points not a damn draw.

But I'll give you a chance to make your case. Show us a source where they unskew the poll, or if you "bother" to do it yourself, show us your calculations.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:12 pm

Regarding the poll, I think the lewd conversation with Bush will likely have the greatest effect to the public at large. However, and maybe it's just because I'm an accountant, the tax returns (or, more accurately, the nearly complete lack thereof) slightly edge that out as far as big deals to me.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:13 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Which pretty much means Trump has the edge, if you actually bother to unskew the poll.


Marist College are A rated pollsters, with a bias of R+0.7

So if you want to go unskewing results, it's Clinton up FOUR points not a damn draw.

But I'll give you a chance to make your case. Show us a source where they unskew the poll, or if you "bother" to do it yourself, show us your calculations.

I'm remembering the unskewing of 2012.

Also, Karl Rove's meltdown.
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Postby Navaronia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:17 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Deplorable was almost as bad as the Wall Street speaches leak. She actually had the nerve to call innocent Americans deplorable just because she thinks theyre racist and sexist. I don't hear her calling ISIS deplorable. She needs to get priorities straight.

:rofl:

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Postby Christian Conservatism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:19 pm

Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.
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Postby Navaronia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:20 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

I would like you to keep in mind, Mister Christian Conservatism, that this article may be biased or skewed like you stated the other polls in favor of Hillary might be. Also, from quickly glancing at this source it seems like it could be in the Los Angelos area and not in general.

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Postby The Adonalsium » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:20 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.


This is only a competition because of who's actually running. I would have rather seen Rand vs Bernie.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:21 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

It's like you're in your own universe.

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Postby Christian Conservatism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:21 pm

The Adonalsium wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Deplorable was almost as bad as the Wall Street speaches leak. She actually had the nerve to call innocent Americans deplorable just because she thinks theyre racist and sexist. I don't hear her calling ISIS deplorable. She needs to get priorities straight.


I feel like Hillary Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" is pretty much true. Especially now. there are no innocent americans under white sheets

You think merely being a racist warrants being called a deplorable and irredeemable?
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:22 pm

Navaronia wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

I would like you to keep in mind, Mister Christian Conservatism, that this article may be biased or skewed like you stated the other polls in favor of Hillary might be. Also, from quickly glancing at this source it seems like it could be in the Los Angelos area and not in general.

No, LA Times produces national polls. Also, LA wouldn't vote Trump in a million years.
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Postby Vavax » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:23 pm

Navaronia wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

I would like you to keep in mind, Mister Christian Conservatism, that this article may be biased or skewed like you stated the other polls in favor of Hillary might be. Also, from quickly glancing at this source it seems like it could be in the Los Angelos area and not in general.

Nononono man you have to remember.

If candidate is losing: Polls are wrong and biased
If candidate is winning: Polls are correct and you're stupid for thinking otherwise

It's pure and simple logic at its finest.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

It's like you're in your own universe.

Navaronia wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

I would like you to keep in mind, Mister Christian Conservatism, that this article may be biased or skewed like you stated the other polls in favor of Hillary might be. Also, from quickly glancing at this source it seems like it could be in the Los Angelos area and not in general.


It's worth noting this particular poll uses a different method and has been an outlier for quite some time. Historical data shows that it has had Trump Ahead, consistently, since Sept 12th, even with all the dips and rises since then.

http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-preside ... dashboard/
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

It's like you're in your own universe.


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Postby Socialist Nordia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:Trump in the lead

It should be a bigger lead considering how awful Clinton is, but whatever.

>LA Times poll
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Postby The Adonalsium » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:
The Adonalsium wrote:
I feel like Hillary Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" is pretty much true. Especially now. there are no innocent americans under white sheets

You think merely being a racist warrants being called a deplorable and irredeemable?


de·plor·a·ble
dəˈplôrəb(ə)l/
adjective
deserving strong condemnation.

Yeah... deplorable sounds correct to me... Take off those sheets and we can talk about redeeming yourself.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Christian Conservatism wrote:
The Adonalsium wrote:
I feel like Hillary Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" is pretty much true. Especially now. there are no innocent americans under white sheets

You think merely being a racist warrants being called a deplorable and irredeemable?

I dunno about Irredeemable, that was a bit much, but deplorable?

Yeah, racism is pretty deplorable.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Ebliania wrote:First

So how is your preferred candidate doing in your state?

I live in Rhode Island and surprisingly, all I see is Trump signs and I haven't seen a single Hillary poster yet at all. Closest I've seen is a bumper sticker and that's it, literally
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Postby Navaronia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:25 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Navaronia wrote:I would like you to keep in mind, Mister Christian Conservatism, that this article may be biased or skewed like you stated the other polls in favor of Hillary might be. Also, from quickly glancing at this source it seems like it could be in the Los Angelos area and not in general.

No, LA Times produces national polls. Also, LA wouldn't vote Trump in a million years.

Alright thank you.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:27 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
Ebliania wrote:First

So how is your preferred candidate doing in your state?

I live in Rhode Island and surprisingly, all I see is Trump signs and I haven't seen a single Hillary poster yet at all. Closest I've seen is a bumper sticker and that's it, literally

I live in Arkansas and I have two neighbors, one clearly supporting Trump and one clearly supporting Hillary, who for the past couple months have been trying to outdo each other with signage.

I counted 17 signs in the Hillary yard and 19 in the Trump yard day before yesterday.

I went by today, and all the Trump signs were gone.
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Postby Navaronia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:27 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Arlenton wrote:It's like you're in your own universe.


Hillary Clinton wrote:Well, everything you’ve heard from Donald is not true. I'm sorry I have to keep saying this, but he lives in an alternative reality.

Wait... What if Christian Conservatism IS Donald Trump? Jokes aside, I really hope he can see the other sides argument. I can understand and recognize where he is coming from but I don't think he does the same.

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