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What is The Biggest, Most Imminent, Geopolitical Threat To The United States?

Russia
33
13%
China
17
7%
North Korea
2
1%
ISIS
13
5%
Climate Change
45
18%
Iran
1
0%
Immigrants/Refugees
12
5%
Domestic Terror
12
5%
Hillary Clinton
46
18%
Donald Trump
75
29%
 
Total votes : 256

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Lancaster of Wessex
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:57 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
And by saying Hillary wants to start WWIII implies that he'd be a leader of peace instead by contrast. It's alllllllllllll coming togetherrrrrrrrr...


Doesn't he have to survive something that should have killed him ...or was that part of the Omen? :unsure:


That's during his time as leader. Yes. Anti-Christ is to mock Christ and emulate His death and resurrection. And the world will be amazed and call it a miracle.
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Taziristan
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Postby Taziristan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:57 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Ted Cruz wouldn't win but I think Rubio would of had a shot at least. Kasich no doubt would won hands down in my opinion. The Democrats though I expect will change to an extent as well and will adopt some of Bernie Sanders ideas.

Clinton I believe will be a one term president because quite frankly, she will have a divided Congress and that is regardless of who wins. The GOP should learn after this but, I digress. I wouldn't be surprise they nominate someone weak again despite her not being that strong of a candidate.

We will see a shift in ideologies in both major parties. Whether it will be for the better or worst remains the question. The bigger questions are, will the GOP learn or will they become the party of Trump?


Kasich, is essentially, a less handsome and less rich Mitt Romney. Clinton would've hit him for his work with Lehman brothers, which would've negated the Wall Street Speeches. Clinton would hit him on his crack down on Abortion in Ohio. Clinton also probably would've got him on his...actually really fucking aggressive foriegn policy because I think he implied that he'd bomb North Korea. That's enough to make things close.

But again, Kasich would've had to fight Demographics. Because, he's just another Mitt Romney. Would Kasich have fired up Black People, Young People, or Women? I doubt it, given Ohio's record with policing, Kasich's opposition to raising the minimum wage, and again the crackdown on Planned Parenthood. The GOP ran Mitt Romney once, he lost. We only think Kasich would've won or that he's moderate is because compared to Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, he looked like a good candidate. But he wasn't, and I think he'd be trailing Clinton right now if all other things were equal.

I hate to talk about 2020 during 2016, But I don't see why she doesn't get the 2nd term. The GOP primary is going to be a clusterfuck, worse than this year. If she can appear to be less horrible than her detractors say she will be, then she might not be Obama popular...but she won't be current Clinton unpopular. The same reason Clinton should have 1 term, are the reasons Obama should've had 1. But demographics are on our side, and as long as the GOP is the party of cultural resentment...then we'll keep winning.

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Jerzylvania
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:00 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Doesn't he have to survive something that should have killed him ...or was that part of the Omen? :unsure:


That's during his time as leader. Yes. Anti-Christ is to mock Christ and emulate His death and resurrection. And the world will be amazed and call it a miracle.


CIA should have his head examined for the birthmark. The comb-over must have been employed years ago to hide it.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Corvus Metallum
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Postby Corvus Metallum » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:00 pm

On a more light hearted note, ERB recently came out with a new video with Trump and Clinton. For those of you who haven't watched it, it is pretty slanted towards Clinton...but, it's still pretty funny. :p

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:02 pm

Corvus Metallum wrote:On a more light hearted note, ERB recently came out with a new video with Trump and Clinton. For those of you who haven't watched it, it is pretty slanted towards Clinton...but, it's still pretty funny. :p

That's because Trump is just that bad.
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Jerzylvania
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:04 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Doesn't he have to survive something that should have killed him ...or was that part of the Omen? :unsure:


That's during his time as leader. Yes. Anti-Christ is to mock Christ and emulate His death and resurrection. And the world will be amazed and call it a miracle.


Well, that let's JFK off the hook.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:04 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
And now we know.


He has all of the Book of Revelation's pedigree now. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJuGoc3oUE ...(We've got the system to follow the system...)

Actually having the number isn't enough has to derived from his name somehow to be the beast from the sea./pedant


On the other hand if you believe Sandifer then maybe we should be looking at the tower. :P
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Corvus Metallum
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Postby Corvus Metallum » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Corvus Metallum wrote:On a more light hearted note, ERB recently came out with a new video with Trump and Clinton. For those of you who haven't watched it, it is pretty slanted towards Clinton...but, it's still pretty funny. :p

That's because Trump is just that bad.

I know. Honestly, it's kinda sad seeing how many people in the comments got butthurt over the video; it's like they really can't see that Trump is that terrible. :lol2:

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Postby Community Values » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:13 pm

I used to think Trump wouldn't be as bad as people said he was, I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think he'd ruin the country.

Of course, then I talked to a legitimate Trump supporter, who said we need a strong military to defend against Russian invasion. What took me so long to hate Trump/Neocons?
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:16 pm

Community Values wrote:I used to think Trump wouldn't be as bad as people said he was, I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think he'd ruin the country.

Of course, then I talked to a legitimate Trump supporter, who said we need a strong military to defend against Russian invasion. What took me so long to hate Trump/Neocons?

They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?
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Jerzylvania
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:17 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
He has all of the Book of Revelation's pedigree now. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJuGoc3oUE ...(We've got the system to follow the system...)

Actually having the number isn't enough has to derived from his name somehow to be the beast from the sea./pedant


On the other hand if you believe Sandifer then maybe we should be looking at the tower. :P


Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Community Values wrote:I used to think Trump wouldn't be as bad as people said he was, I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think he'd ruin the country.

Of course, then I talked to a legitimate Trump supporter, who said we need a strong military to defend against Russian invasion. What took me so long to hate Trump/Neocons?

They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?

Main reason why I didn't go full right wing oh so many years ago. I didn't want to live in constant fear of *insert ethic/political/national/sexual/ group here*
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:20 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Uiiop wrote: Actually having the number isn't enough has to derived from his name somehow to be the beast from the sea./pedant


On the other hand if you believe Sandifer then maybe we should be looking at the tower. :P


Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.

I'd love to see the looks on the Trump supporters faces.
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Lancaster of Wessex
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:20 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Uiiop wrote: Actually having the number isn't enough has to derived from his name somehow to be the beast from the sea./pedant


On the other hand if you believe Sandifer then maybe we should be looking at the tower. :P


Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.


Another thing crossed my mind. If the USA is new Rome/Babylon (being the dominant powers when The Bible was written)...what was Babylon known for back in the day. Tower of Babylon, which God destroyed. Where does Trump hold his power base? Trump Tower.

Just food for thought.
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Postby Ebliania » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:20 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Uiiop wrote: Actually having the number isn't enough has to derived from his name somehow to be the beast from the sea./pedant


On the other hand if you believe Sandifer then maybe we should be looking at the tower. :P


Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.

As you can see Donald Trump is part of the Illuminati, and by extension Alex Jones is an Illuminati shill for orchestrating the cover-up.

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Postby Greater Beggnig » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?

Main reason why I didn't go full right wing oh so many years ago. I didn't want to live in constant fear of *insert ethic/political/national/sexual/ group here*

Instead you chose to be afraid of the wrong kind of language by becoming a brainwashed follower of political correctness.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:22 pm

Greater Beggnig wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Main reason why I didn't go full right wing oh so many years ago. I didn't want to live in constant fear of *insert ethic/political/national/sexual/ group here*

Instead you chose to be afraid of the wrong kind of language by becoming a brainwashed follower of political correctness.

0/10 bad political attack is bad. Would not try.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:23 pm

Ebliania wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.

As you can see Donald Trump is part of the Illuminati, and by extension Alex Jones is an Illuminati shill for orchestrating the cover-up.


Right-o.
Alex = The False Prophet
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:24 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?

Main reason why I didn't go full right wing oh so many years ago. I didn't want to live in constant fear of *insert ethic/political/national/sexual/ group here*

I wonder if I can blend in with the Trump voters if I just glare at any vaguely brown person I see.
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Community Values wrote:I used to think Trump wouldn't be as bad as people said he was, I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think he'd ruin the country.

Of course, then I talked to a legitimate Trump supporter, who said we need a strong military to defend against Russian invasion. What took me so long to hate Trump/Neocons?

They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?

And liberals aren't? You all seem pretty afraid of Trump to me, for good reason.

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Postby Corvus Metallum » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:25 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Community Values wrote:I used to think Trump wouldn't be as bad as people said he was, I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think he'd ruin the country.

Of course, then I talked to a legitimate Trump supporter, who said we need a strong military to defend against Russian invasion. What took me so long to hate Trump/Neocons?

They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?

I've a few friends that are Trump supporters, and everytime the election comes up I'm amazed by how they refuse to see that evidence clearly indicates that Trump is in no way fit for the office he is running for. :meh:

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:25 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Uiiop wrote: Actually having the number isn't enough has to derived from his name somehow to be the beast from the sea./pedant


On the other hand if you believe Sandifer then maybe we should be looking at the tower. :P


Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.

http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/theses-on-trump-16/ Numbers 10-12 explains the tower's supposed relevance.

I'm just looking via wikipedia but apparently some of the numbers are close but not quite there even if you allow 66. If you are looking for evidence you could interpret this as an near Freudian slip.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:26 pm

Greater Beggnig wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Main reason why I didn't go full right wing oh so many years ago. I didn't want to live in constant fear of *insert ethic/political/national/sexual/ group here*

Instead you chose to be afraid of the wrong kind of language by becoming a brainwashed follower of political correctness.

Lol
Try harder.
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Postby Community Values » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:26 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Community Values wrote:I used to think Trump wouldn't be as bad as people said he was, I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think he'd ruin the country.

Of course, then I talked to a legitimate Trump supporter, who said we need a strong military to defend against Russian invasion. What took me so long to hate Trump/Neocons?

They're a very fearful bunch aren't they?


Don't get me wrong, people like Kasich, even Rubio seem like they'd make decent presidents, it's just these radicals that really irk me.
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-Huey Long

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:26 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Please do go on further about the tower.

Strangely Trump was born on 6-14-46. And oddly enough 6+14+46 = 66 Which is the year Betty Christ Trump died on 6-6-66. Too weird.


Another thing crossed my mind. If the USA is new Rome/Babylon (being the dominant powers when The Bible was written)...what was Babylon known for back in the day. Tower of Babylon, which God destroyed. Where does Trump hold his power base? Trump Tower.

Just food for thought.


And NYC is something akin to Babylon.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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