US Gen. Election Thread V: The Hunt for Red October Surprise

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Is that so? Can you give examples? I'm sure you'll be able to find a way to say that consistent American exceptionalism and ethnocentrism shows a lack of patriotism. Or is it that your vision of America is white and people like me are destroying 'your' America?

lol

Why is it that people such as you always pull the whole "Oh so you want white Christian-male dominated American" or some such nonsense. No, I just want an America that focuses on it's own wellbeing without an ever-present sense of guilt and doesn't seek to sell out its sovereignty in the pursuit of some bullshit idea like global citizenship.

Meaning: fuck every other human being on Earth, so long as they're not American human beings, their lives mean less, right?

[The Romulan Republic]

An abbreviation of Bill Jefferson Clinton's name is now political nicknaming?

Really, Farn?

Bill Clinton's first name is William.

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

[Conserative Morality]

lol

So you've got nothing and you were spewing bullshit? Unsurprising.

Why is it that people such as you always pull the whole "Oh so you want white Christian-male dominated American" or some such nonsense.

Might have something to do with your posting history, m80.

No, I just want an America that focuses on it's own wellbeing without an ever-present sense of guilt and doesn't seek to sell out its sovereignty in the pursuit of some bullshit idea like global citizenship.

And were do you get that idea? Alex Jones?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Bill Clinton's first name is William.

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

It was the "BJ" Clinton thing that was obviously a mockery/nicknaming insult.

[Lady Scylla]

Bill Clinton's first name is William.

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

BJ is.

[Galloism]

If your politics are anything like the modern Republican ideal, you can look to Kansas for how well they work out: bankrupt and economically stagnant. That's how Republican policies work for states which don't happen to have oil underneath them.

Right. And if I need modern Republican politics then I'll look to states like California which people are now fleeing for Texas.

But please, point me to another flat state with nothing going for it but a bunch of tumbleweeds (no offense, Kansas).

Or the exodus from more blue eastern states. People escaping the taxes of NY. One could go on.

California? You mean that state with a higher GDP than France?

[Freefall11111]

So "non-essential" that a mere two week shutdown three years ago cost 0.3-0.6% GDP growth and 120k jobs, $2.5bn worth of federal employee paychecks were frozen, $500m in National Park fees were lost, 200 applications for drilling permits were delayed, two million liters of alcohol deliveries were delayed, $140m in small business loans were delayed, and the IRS backlog grew to over 1.2m requests.

Liberal lies.

S&P? Liberals.
Council of Economic Advisers? Liberals.
Office of Management and Budget? Liberals.

[Kravanica]

Right. And if I need modern Republican politics then I'll look to states like California which people are now fleeing for Texas.

But please, point me to another flat state with nothing going for it but a bunch of tumbleweeds (no offense, Kansas).

Or the exodus from more blue eastern states. People escaping the taxes of NY. One could go on.

Texas is a jobs vampire propped up by the oil industry and defense contractors. It isn't exactly a workable model on the national level, unless you're advocating we try stealing jobs back from China by pushing wages down to 50 cents an hour and eliminating all workplace safety standards.

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Is that so? Can you give examples? I'm sure you'll be able to find a way to say that consistent American exceptionalism and ethnocentrism shows a lack of patriotism. Or is it that your vision of America is white and people like me are destroying 'your' America?

lol

Why is it that people such as you always pull the whole "Oh so you want white Christian-male dominated American" or some such nonsense. No, I just want an America that focuses on it's own wellbeing without an ever-present sense of guilt and doesn't seek to sell out its sovereignty in the pursuit of some bullshit idea like global citizenship.

What "ever-present sense of guilt"? I honestly don't recall the United States ever feeling collective guilt about anything whatsoever.

Also, selling its sovereignty? Sorry, but I don't see how that's going on either.

[Lady Scylla]

Personally, I hate all of you. Who the hell fries everything?

Southern fried chicken is a gift from the gods and fuck anyone who says otherwise.

I need to say otherwise more often then when I'm at a pub.

[Kravanica]

Right. And if I need modern Republican politics then I'll look to states like California which people are now fleeing for Texas.

But please, point me to another flat state with nothing going for it but a bunch of tumbleweeds (no offense, Kansas).

Or the exodus from more blue eastern states. People escaping the taxes of NY. One could go on.

California? You mean that state with a higher GDP than France?

Yes, the state that people are fleeing to Texas from.

I get that it has a giant economy, which is nice. But people are still fleeing.

[The Romulan Republic]

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

It was the "BJ" Clinton thing that was obviously a mockery/nicknaming insult.

Yeah, I know.

It just occurred to me that if you take "no nicknames" literally, it can have some fairly amusing implications.

[The Liberated Territories]

And Detroit. Although the Repub effort to crack hard on drugs aint helping either.

[Hittanryan]

Texas is a jobs vampire propped up by the oil industry and defense contractors. It isn't exactly a workable model on the national level, unless you're advocating we try stealing jobs back from China by pushing wages down to 50 cents an hour and eliminating all workplace safety standards.

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

You're willfully missing my point. Are you saying Texas does not have a large oil industry that other states cannot duplicate because, you know, they don't have oil?

[Kravanica]

lol

Why is it that people such as you always pull the whole "Oh so you want white Christian-male dominated American" or some such nonsense. No, I just want an America that focuses on it's own wellbeing without an ever-present sense of guilt and doesn't seek to sell out its sovereignty in the pursuit of some bullshit idea like global citizenship.

What "ever-present sense of guilt"? I honestly don't recall the United States ever feeling collective guilt about anything whatsoever.

Also, selling its sovereignty? Sorry, but I don't see how that's going on either.

Right, so the whole sense of guilt about taking land from Native Americans, slavery, segregation, all that jazz. There's no sense of guilt about that?

And yes, selling sovereignty to organizations such as the UN in the pursuit of some vague crap like global citizenship.

[Lady Scylla]

Texas is a jobs vampire propped up by the oil industry and defense contractors. It isn't exactly a workable model on the national level, unless you're advocating we try stealing jobs back from China by pushing wages down to 50 cents an hour and eliminating all workplace safety standards.

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

Texas is a shithole with crappy infrastructure, massive budget waste, poor management, and a shitty education system.

[Trumpostan]

Liberal lies.

S&P? Liberals.
Council of Economic Advisers? Liberals.
Office of Management and Budget? Liberals.

Those silly liberals ain't got nuthin' on Sean Hannity and other RW truthtellers™ Who needs facts when you have RW feels?

[Zeinbrad]

Bill Clinton's first name is William.

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

It seems to be a nickname that he likes.

[Conserative Morality]

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

Muh t-t-taxes

Certainly it couldn't be that New York has one of the highest rates of foreign immigration and Cali is a fucking desert

It's muh taxes

That's why people are fleeing Maine, New York, Ohio, Minnesota, and Hawaii for Alaska, NH, Delaware, Tennesee, and Alabama.

Because of a 2% difference from the national average.

[Kravanica]

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

You're willfully missing my point. Are you saying Texas does not have a large oil industry that other states cannot duplicate because, you know, they don't have oil?

No, I don't. That certainly contributes to it. But you can still properly fuck up an economy even if you have large amounts of natural resources.

[Zeinbrad]

S&P? Liberals.
Council of Economic Advisers? Liberals.
Office of Management and Budget? Liberals.

Those silly liberals ain't got nuthin' on Sean Hannity and other RW truthtellers™ Who needs facts when you have RW feels?

"I'm not a journalist"

[The Emerald Dawn]

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

It seems to be a nickname that he likes.

If you say "Bill Clinton" you'll be ok.

If you say "Bill" in context that everyone understands, you'll be ok.

If you say "BJ Clinton" you're either dense and wrong, or inciting and wrong. Either way you're wrong.

[Genivaria]

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

You're willfully missing my point. Are you saying Texas does not have a large oil industry that other states cannot duplicate because, you know, they don't have oil?

And why is it that the most conservative state in the country have the worst economies, education, and teen pregnancy rates?
Texas only has a better economy because of oiland the Gulf, it has the exact same social problems as other extremely conservative states.

[Kravanica]

Right. Any time anything is successful under a Republican it must be because of some other reason beyond right-wing politics. Yet anytime anything is successful under a Democratic administration then well that's obviously an example of how well liberal politics work.

Come talk to me when people stop fleeing California and New York. I know it sounds heretical, but maybe if the taxes weren't so assblastingly high then people wouldn't flee.

Muh t-t-taxes

Certainly it couldn't be that New York has one of the highest rates of foreign immigration and Cali is a fucking desert

It's muh taxes

That's why people are fleeing Maine, New York, Ohio, Minnesota, and Hawaii for Alaska, NH, Delaware, Tennesee, and Alabama.

Because of a 2% difference from the national average.

New Jersey, too. I should know because it's my home state. 49th in taxes. One of the only states in the country that has both an inheritance tax and an estate tax (fuck you Christie for changing nothing). A solidly blue state aside from the shitty governor. Now the state's lost 18 billion in revenue thanks to people fleeing.

[Farnhamia]

Bill Clinton's first name is William.

Technically, Bill is a nickname.

Is calling him Bill a violation of the political nicknaming rule?

No and let's be clear, "BJ Clinton" is not an ordinary, accepted way of referring to him. Kravanica can go appeal. Move on.