US Gen. Election Thread V: The Hunt for Red October Surprise

[Khadgar]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/161afebf5804419b93f7c6306d438cc1/apnewsbreak-un-criticism-trump-prompts-russian-response
There's no connection between Russia and the Trump campaign, believe me.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[Valrifell]

Well, he should have. Fucking electoral college.

Yeah. In hindsight, the electoral college is a terrible idea.

The thought behind it isn't, really, it's implementation sucks for the 21st century, though.

[Salandriagado]

she is also making it refundable so that you can get your tax credit money even if you didn't pay that much in taxes. good for poor people.

I'll admit, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about tax policy and the money side of governance. Why is that good for poor people?

If it wasn't refundable, people who pay less than $2000 in taxes (that is: the poor) wouldn't get all of the benefit of it. By making it refundable, they do.

[Ashmoria]

This, and I think the issue lies in the fact that many believe the USAG is in Clinton's pocket, or at the very least on the Democrat Party's pocket. Now a USAG in Trump's pocket would be no better, but the suspicion is there.

I'm confused though -- I thought Comey, the FBI Director, did a press conference where he essentially scolded Clinton for being irresponsible and violating protocols, but concluded that there was no malicious outcome or intent involved.... and thus decided not to recommend charges.

Essentially, "she screwed up, but she didn't do so intentionally, and nothing bad happened because of it."

Where does the AG even come into that assessment? If Comey had recommended charges and Lynch (or whoever the AG was at the time) said no, then THAT would be incredibly suspicious...but Comey didn't. Do people suspect Comey of being in the Democratic Party's pocket?

when there is some kind of conspiracy theory charge against a Clinton the truth doesn't matter. if it can be spun that way it will be.

I have been waiting 25+ years for a charge against the Clintons to be true and except for bill truly being a hounddog nothing has ever turned out to be anything but bullshit.

[Zurkerx]

And that's when Paul Ryan decided to become a Democrat.

I'm afraid you're not going far enough.

Glenn Beck is fine with Clinton being elected so long as Trump isn't

When you see even Glenn Beck even tolerating Hillary over Trump, you know you are in trouble.

[Ashmoria]

Not saying Comey is in Hillary/Dem's pocket. But given what happened is probably best outcome she could have hoped for, he certainly is biased, and likely in her favor. Lynch is almost certainly biased.on her favor. Petraeus was charged and convicted under that code for almost the same thing, to me that seems to mean that at the very least a Grand Jury was justified in Clinton's situation.

ohforgodssake Petraeus took classified documents home so his girlfriend could read them, lied about it AND hid them under the insulation in his attic.

he got probation.

[Ashmoria]

Noted Former Cocaine User Carrie Fisher Says Donald Trump Was 'Absolutely' On Coke

Man, it would be Hillary-ous if Trump's coke dealer came out sensing bigger cash opportunities.

And the Scarface desk scene is more Hillary-ous if you imagine Trump instead.

a poster on dailykos suggested that that kind of breathing is a stress/anxiety response in some people.

my sister had a mini-dachshund that used to breath like that when it was anxious.

[Eol Sha]

I'll admit, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about tax policy and the money side of governance. Why is that good for poor people?

Most tax credits can only reduce federal income tax but not below zero. If you are a family of four that makes $28,800 of income before you pay a dime in federal income tax, and then the 10% bracket is another $18,550 above that.

https://www.irs.com/articles/2016-feder ... deductions

Lower income families pay little to nothing in income tax anyway, so tax credits don't help them, UNLESS they're refundable. That means that it can reduce their tax below zero and they can get that credit money back.

(Of note, child tax credit is often refundable as 'additional child tax credit', but there's a computation behind that, and it's not always fully refundable)

Ah, I get it now, Thanks, Gallo. And thank you to everyone who bothered to engage with me. It's much appreciated.

[Camicon]

Man, it would be Hillary-ous if Trump's coke dealer came out sensing bigger cash opportunities.

And the Scarface desk scene is more Hillary-ous if you imagine Trump instead.

a poster on dailykos suggested that that kind of breathing is a stress/anxiety response in some people.

my sister had a mini-dachshund that used to breath like that when it was anxious.

It's something that he could so easily correct; all he needs to do is simply stop tonguing the microphone.

[Ashmoria]

she is also making it refundable so that you can get your tax credit money even if you didn't pay that much in taxes. good for poor people.

I'll admit, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about tax policy and the money side of governance. Why is that good for poor people?

if you only have $1000 in tax at the end of the form but have $4000 in child tax credit the refundable credit has them send you $3000. otherwise you just get the $1000 that reduces your tax bill to 0. many poor families owe less in tax than the full tax credit allows for now.

[Socialist Nordia]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /91894280/

"Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we've had eight years of a president, he's an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we're slipping into anarchy," LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM; the audio was posted on CNN.

Just the contradictions within that one statement are cringeworthy. Even more so is the idea that Trump would actually have support among some GOP government officials if he sought to take a position more like Putin's in Russia.

[Ebliania]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/11/maine-governor-we-need-trump-show-authoritarian-power/91894280/

"Sometimes, I wonder that our Constitution is not only broken, but we need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law because we've had eight years of a president, he's an autocrat, he just does it on his own, he ignores Congress and every single day, we're slipping into anarchy," LePage said on Maine radio station WVOM; the audio was posted on CNN.

Just the contradictions within that one statement are cringeworthy. Even more so is the idea that Trump would actually have support among some GOP government officials if he sought to take a position more like Putin's in Russia.

"We need an authoritarian to combat an autocrat, who is leading us into anarchy"

That is just sad

[Genivaria]

a poster on dailykos suggested that that kind of breathing is a stress/anxiety response in some people.

my sister had a mini-dachshund that used to breath like that when it was anxious.

It's something that he could so easily correct; all he needs to do is simply stop tonguing the microphone.

I think he's mistaking the microphone for his daughter....

[Ashmoria]

a poster on dailykos suggested that that kind of breathing is a stress/anxiety response in some people.

my sister had a mini-dachshund that used to breath like that when it was anxious.

It's something that he could so easily correct; all he needs to do is simply stop tonguing the microphone.

but he's snuffling.

what does tonguing the microphone mean?

[Socialist Nordia]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/11/maine-governor-we-need-trump-show-authoritarian-power/91894280/



Just the contradictions within that one statement are cringeworthy. Even more so is the idea that Trump would actually have support among some GOP government officials if he sought to take a position more like Putin's in Russia.

"We need an authoritarian to combat an autocrat, who is leading us into anarchy"

That is just sad

This was the same guy who literally challenged a state lawmaker to a duel, so this is pretty ordinary compared to what he's said before.

[Ebliania]

"We need an authoritarian to combat an autocrat, who is leading us into anarchy"

That is just sad

This was the same guy who literally challenged a state lawmaker to a duel, so this is pretty ordinary compared to what he's said before.

Freedom Caucus?

[Genivaria]

This was the same guy who literally challenged a state lawmaker to a duel, so this is pretty ordinary compared to what he's said before.

Freedom Caucus?

I love that their Wiki page actually labels them 'far-right'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus

[Maineiacs]

I'm afraid you're not going far enough.

Glenn Beck is fine with Clinton being elected so long as Trump isn't

When you see even Glenn Beck even tolerating Hillary over Trump, you know you are in trouble.

Of course Beck wants her to win; the paranoia that would create would send his ratings through the roof.

[The Liberated Territories]

Liberty Caucus is better than Freedom Caucus.

Freedom is an ugly Germanic word, while Liberty is a beautiful romance word. That's why it is better.

[Ebliania]

Freedom Caucus?

I love that their Wiki page actually labels them 'far-right'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus

It calls UKIP right-wing, for comparison.

[Genivaria]

I love that their Wiki page actually labels them 'far-right'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus

It calls UKIP right-wing, for comparison.

It is right-wing.

[Camicon]

It's something that he could so easily correct; all he needs to do is simply stop tonguing the microphone.

but he's snuffling.

what does tonguing the microphone mean?

It's the one thing that Jon Snow knows.

But have you not seen how close he holds the microphone to his mouth? It looks like he's Frenching it half the time. Holding the mic eight or nine inches lower, next to his throat but away from his nose and mouth, would cut down on the amount of breathing that it picks up by a massive amount. Nobody would even notice it, at that point.

[Ashmoria]

but he's snuffling.

what does tonguing the microphone mean?

It's the one thing that Jon Snow knows.

But have you not seen how close he holds the microphone to his mouth? It looks like he's Frenching it half the time. Holding the mic eight or nine inches lower, next to his throat but away from his nose and mouth, would cut down on the amount of breathing that it picks up by a massive amount. Nobody would even notice it, at that point.

I just noticed that he held it as if he were going to start singing.

but the snuffling was picked up in the first debate when that mic was far from his face.

[Mongolisa]

Gary Johnson for President 2016. He's on the ballot in all fifty states and D.C.

[The Romulan Republic]

Gary Johnson for President 2016. He's on the ballot in all fifty states and D.C.

And polling in single digits.

Alepogate didn't help, either.