NATION

PASSWORD

Asian-American response to Fox News comedy sketch

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Syfenq
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 25, 2011
Capitalist Paradise

Asian-American response to Fox News comedy sketch

Postby Syfenq » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:37 pm

http://college.usatoday.com/2016/10/06/about-that-fox-news-segment-filled-with-asian-american-stereotypes-we-fixedwattersfail/

In an episode of a Fox News segment called “Watters’ World,” host Jesse Watters went to Chinatown in New York City and interviewed some members of the Asian-American community.

The piece recycles numerous stereotypes of Chinese and Asian people, mocks some of the interview subjects with reaction clips from popular movies, and generally makes most of the interviewees look like buffoons.

Many who saw the segment called out Watters and Fox News for the use of offensive stereotypes and expressed outrage and disgust.


Here's a personal note from the translator who worked on this video. I think it captures a lot of the frustration felt among model minorities and diaspora communities at people assuming that they don't have a stake in who's running our country, or that people seem them as a monolithic voting bloc.

I got to interview all of the native Mandarin speakers, cut those clips and translate all of the subtitles. More importantly, I used my Chinese language skills to explain to these people what was even the point of sharing this perspective with America. They don't think anyone should - or does - give a shit about them. Voter apathy for them is chosen as a defense mechanism for the racial wounds America inflicted. They softened up as a favor to their posterity - me who insisted they mattered.

I'm proud of the hard work we put into this but I'm sad about what it revealed to me. My people aren't proud enough. But you made it to America. My dad was the first in his family to go to college and trade in his countryside dialect for an American Master's and PhD in different STEM subjects. My grandfather rode buses cross country to see America when he was 72 years old and spoke literally no English. And every day international students in the j school get self conscious about their accents, I want to shake them and say no one should EVER shame you for mastering multiple languages, because let me tell you, bilingual people seem to shame immigrants a little less than others.


Even though the video mostly focuses on Chinese-American immigrant experiences and Chinese-Americans form the largest subgroup of Asian-Americans, the issues of group identity and assimilation easily apply to other ethnicities and other minority racial groups as well.
I still can't believe that Brazil lost to Germany 1:7. Copy and paste onto your sig if you were alive when this happened.

Successor state of Nouveau Yathrib (more on that here)
About This World | Factbooks and Dispatches | OOC Info | OOC: Why I'm still on NS | Public Relations | iiWiki

Historic Migration to Syfenq by Country | Languages of Syfenq (continued) | Q&A

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something.
And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do."

-Edward Everett Hale

User avatar
Seylland
Diplomat
 
Posts: 645
Founded: Dec 16, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Seylland » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:42 pm

Saw that floating around tumblr and reddit, the man is an idiot.

It wasn't funny nor was it blatantly offensive (only somewhat miffed). It was more bad taste and pure idiocy.

This is why new immigrants and those who are citizens end up failing to assimilate, because this kind of bullcrap prevents proper assimilation and integration. It makes it seem that they are unwelcome or simply an 'other' as a result.

User avatar
Krasny-Volny
Minister
 
Posts: 3200
Founded: Nov 20, 2010
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Krasny-Volny » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:37 pm

Malaysian (by birth) living off and on in the United States here (occasionally I return to Malaysia to work, but not at this moment). I wasn't raised in the US so I can't speak for those that were, but this is my perspective:

I don't think Americans of Asian descent as a community feel politically underrepresented. I live in the Deep South (indeed, one of the poorest counties in the continental USA), and Americans of Asian descent seem to have the easiest time integrating, voting for local candidates, and feeling at home, much more so than even black Americans, who have lived here much longer.

BTW OP, "Model minority" is just that: a stereotype. Few outside the Asian community in the US seem to be aware that there are Asian immigrants living in poverty like everybody else, and Asian organized crime rackets aplenty too. Even Asian gangs, especially among the Cambodians and Laotians.
Krastecexport. Cheap armaments for the budget minded, sold with discretion.

User avatar
Jamilkhuze
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 115
Founded: May 24, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Jamilkhuze » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:12 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:Malaysian (by birth) living off and on in the United States here (occasionally I return to Malaysia to work, but not at this moment). I wasn't raised in the US so I can't speak for those that were, but this is my perspective:

I don't think Americans of Asian descent as a community feel politically underrepresented. I live in the Deep South (indeed, one of the poorest counties in the continental USA), and Americans of Asian descent seem to have the easiest time integrating, voting for local candidates, and feeling at home, much more so than even black Americans, who have lived here much longer.

BTW OP, "Model minority" is just that: a stereotype. Few outside the Asian community in the US seem to be aware that there are Asian immigrants living in poverty like everybody else, and Asian organized crime rackets aplenty too. Even Asian gangs, especially among the Cambodians and Laotians.



Yes I'm well aware of the model minority stereotype and how unrepresentative it is of the Asian-American experience. My parents came to the US in the 90s for graduate studies and they were able to leverage that education into lucrative careers in IT that allowed my family to join the ranks of upper-middle class suburban America by the time I was in high school. Growing up, it was expected that I would graduate from college, get a well-paying job, and become a productive, engaged member of society. This feeling of entitlement has played an important role in determining my political consciousness.

The socioeconomics and demographics of API-Americans may be different where you're at, but I suspect many of the Asian-Americans you've encountered were also raised to integrate into American society and to believe that they have a stake in it, hence their high levels of political engagement. This mentality requires a certain kind of resilience, flexibility, and social capital that not all Asian-Americans have. I would say it's more common for Asian-Americans to feel excluded or shunned from mainstream society where there are high rates of poverty or where society is more strongly divided along racial and ethnic lines, such as NYC. While most of my generation feels at home in this country, that might not necessarily be the case for our parents or grandparents, who still make up the bulk of the Asian-American population.
I still can't believe that Brazil lost to Germany 1:7. Copy and paste onto your sig if you were alive when this happened.

Successor state of Nouveau Yathrib (more on that here)
About Our World | Factbooks and Dispatches | OOC Info | OOC: Why I'm Still on NS | Public Relations | iiWiki

Historic Migration to Jamilkhuze by Country | Languages of Jamilkhuze (continued) | Q&A

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something.
And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do."

-Edward Everett Hale

User avatar
Herskerstad
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10259
Founded: Dec 14, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Herskerstad » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:30 pm

Really a case of a tempest in a teapot. He does silly colabs all over the place, Chinatown simply did not get preferential treatment.
Although the stars do not speak, even in being silent they cry out. - John Calvin

User avatar
Saiwania
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22269
Founded: Jun 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:51 pm

I have to say that overall, I hate Jesse Watters. He has a long history of intentionally interviewing only the dumbest people he finds to push whatever bullshit narrative he wants to for Fox News viewers using verbal gongs and zingers. He offers nothing of value.
Sith Acolyte
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken!

User avatar
Syfenq
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: May 25, 2011
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Syfenq » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:10 pm

Herskerstad wrote:Really a case of a tempest in a teapot. He does silly colabs all over the place, Chinatown simply did not get preferential treatment.


Yeah, but it also goes to show how bad his sketches are he is. He's like the Donald Trump of political commentators- not evil by any means but definitely an egocentric, pompous blowhard.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/05/jesse-watters-problem-isnt-hes-racist-hes-jackass/
Perhaps Watters is a racist, but that’s not what’s wrong with his trip to Chinatown. What’s really wrong with the whole segment is that he’s a jerk who conflates being mean with humor.

Watters’ shtick seems to be catching people off guard and then heading to the editing booth to try to make himself seem funny. If supercuts of old movies laid over people who don’t speak English is your thing, I suppose it’s hilarious. If you actually expect jokes, Watters’ style leaves much to be desired, but that doesn’t make him a racist. Just a jackass.
I still can't believe that Brazil lost to Germany 1:7. Copy and paste onto your sig if you were alive when this happened.

Successor state of Nouveau Yathrib (more on that here)
About This World | Factbooks and Dispatches | OOC Info | OOC: Why I'm still on NS | Public Relations | iiWiki

Historic Migration to Syfenq by Country | Languages of Syfenq (continued) | Q&A

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something.
And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do."

-Edward Everett Hale

User avatar
New Grestin
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9500
Founded: Dec 21, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Grestin » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:50 pm

Fox News says and does something poorly informed and stupid.

In other news, scientists believe water may, in fact, be wet.
Let’s not dwell on our corpse strewn past. Let’s celebrate our corpse strewn future!
Head Bartender for The Pub | The Para-Verse | Writing Advice from a Pretentious Jerk | I write stuff | Arbitrary Political Numbers
Kentucky Fried Land wrote:I should have known Grestin was Christopher Walken the whole time.
ThePub wrote:New Grestin: "I will always choose the aborable lesbians over an entire town."
Imperial Idaho wrote:And with 1-2 sentences Grestin has declared war on the national pride of Canada.
- Best Worldbuilding - 2016 (Community Choice)
- Best Horror/Thriller RP for THE ZONE - 2016 (Community Choice)


Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Allancia, Eahland, Godular, Gorutimania, Haganham, Ineva, Rusozak, Spirit of Hope, Tiami, Uiiop, Yasuragi

Advertisement

Remove ads