Hurricane Matthew.

[Imperial Idaho]

Why is this part relevant.

We must look after our own Race first, and concern ourselves with our race before others.

-_-

[Haja-Mishu]

If Haiti wasn't a failed state before, it is now. ;( Once this is over perhaps the Dominicans & Haitians could unify the island....

Unrealistic optimism ftw?

[Novorobo]

“If you live in that area you must evacuate. It’s a rule! But not everybody’s listening, because ‘freedom’ and stuff. Freedom. Tell that to the cop who has to come dig you out. What about that cop’s freedom? Love law enforcement and all of a sudden you put them in jeopardy, think about it, come on now.” - Shep Smith

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/h ... 13e953b92d

Question; why are cops obligated to rescue people who refused to obey a mandatory evacuation order in the first place?

[Imperial Idaho]

“If you live in that area you must evacuate. It’s a rule! But not everybody’s listening, because ‘freedom’ and stuff. Freedom. Tell that to the cop who has to come dig you out. What about that cop’s freedom? Love law enforcement and all of a sudden you put them in jeopardy, think about it, come on now.” - Shep Smith

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/h ... 13e953b92d

Question; why are cops obligated to rescue people who refused to obey a mandatory evacuation order in the first place?

Well Moral reasons of course, would be worse if they didn't.

[Ifreann]

“If you live in that area you must evacuate. It’s a rule! But not everybody’s listening, because ‘freedom’ and stuff. Freedom. Tell that to the cop who has to come dig you out. What about that cop’s freedom? Love law enforcement and all of a sudden you put them in jeopardy, think about it, come on now.” - Shep Smith

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/h ... 13e953b92d

Question; why are cops obligated to rescue people who refused to obey a mandatory evacuation order in the first place?

Because leaving people to die, even stupid people who could have easily gotten to safety, would be utterly unconscionable.

[Imperial Union of America]

“If you live in that area you must evacuate. It’s a rule! But not everybody’s listening, because ‘freedom’ and stuff. Freedom. Tell that to the cop who has to come dig you out. What about that cop’s freedom? Love law enforcement and all of a sudden you put them in jeopardy, think about it, come on now.” - Shep Smith

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/h ... 13e953b92d

Question; why are cops obligated to rescue people who refused to obey a mandatory evacuation order in the first place?

Because leaving people to die, even stupid people who could have easily gotten to safety, would be utterly unconscionable.

Not to me. Some people need a lesson.

[Minivanistan]

That's what I told him.

Funny thing about cars - if you drive through water, even very deep water, and then park it in a dry place and remove water from the interior (if any gets in), the car is usually just fine. But if it sits in water - even for a few hours - you will suffer electrical problems for fuck ever.

When I was in high school, I picked up a 300ZX turbo cheap because it had been flooded out.
It was mechanically sound, and the interior had been saved, so I just had to rewire it.
Made a great hobby between tenth and eleventh grades.

Anyway, hoping for the best as this thing begins to threaten GA and the Carolinas, and I sure hope it doe not whip back like they say it might. A lashing like that is bad enough once.

[Ifreann]

Because leaving people to die, even stupid people who could have easily gotten to safety, would be utterly unconscionable.

Not to me. Some people need a lesson.

That you would leave people to die if you thought they had it coming only strengthens my point that such behaviour is beyond the pale.

[Lady Scylla]

You're asking a racist why race matters. Let's not go down the rabbit hole.

Lets not go down this path. Go make another thread or something.

Thank you, broken record.

[Lady Scylla]

Because leaving people to die, even stupid people who could have easily gotten to safety, would be utterly unconscionable.

Not to me. Some people need a lesson.

Lessons generally only work if you're around to learn from them, and not a bloated corpse floating around.

[Imperial Union of America]

Not to me. Some people need a lesson.

Lessons generally only work if you're around to learn from them, and not a bloated corpse floating around.

Maybe if one were to affix a sign to this floating corpse that read, "I refused to evacuate," it would serve as a warning to any who thought of such action in the future.

[Ifreann]

Lessons generally only work if you're around to learn from them, and not a bloated corpse floating around.

Maybe if one were to affix a sign to this floating corpse that read, "I refused to evacuate," it would serve as a warning to any who thought of such action in the future.

Or maybe we just don't let you be a cop.

[Equestria and Griffon]

Let's keep this civil!

[Andramedal]

They are in desperate need of help we can't just sit here and do nothing. Action speaks louder than words.

[Threlizdun]

Lessons generally only work if you're around to learn from them, and not a bloated corpse floating around.

Maybe if one were to affix a sign to this floating corpse that read, "I refused to evacuate," it would serve as a warning to any who thought of such action in the future.

Because clearly everyone living in areas hit by Matthew has the means to pack up all their possessions, flee to a safe state or country as the case may be, and continue to support themselves when they have lost their homes, incomes, social support networks, and many if not all of their possessions. But yes, let's mock the dead and call them idiots instead of actually acknowledging the extreme hardships that come with evacuation efforts.

[Ifreann]

They are in desperate need of help we can't just sit here and do nothing. Action speaks louder than words.

This is a debate and discussion forum. All we ever do is sit here and type words.

[Cymrea]

They are in desperate need of help we can't just sit here and do nothing. Action speaks louder than words.

I'm certain there will be a number to which we can text donations for emergency relief.

[Imperial Union of America]

Maybe if one were to affix a sign to this floating corpse that read, "I refused to evacuate," it would serve as a warning to any who thought of such action in the future.

Because clearly everyone living in areas hit by Matthew has the means to pack up all their possessions, flee to a safe state or country as the case may be, and continue to support themselves when they have lost their homes, incomes, social support networks, and many if not all of their possessions. But yes, let's mock the dead and call them idiots instead of actually acknowledging the extreme hardships that come with evacuation efforts.

Yes, the extreme hardship of going out of town for a day or two, or even just walking 30 minutes away from the coast.

[Equestria and Griffon]

They are in desperate need of help we can't just sit here and do nothing. Action speaks louder than words.

Agree.

[Skyviolia]

Stay safe Florida, stay safe.

[Equestria and Griffon]

Good night,and good luck.

[Threlizdun]

Because clearly everyone living in areas hit by Matthew has the means to pack up all their possessions, flee to a safe state or country as the case may be, and continue to support themselves when they have lost their homes, incomes, social support networks, and many if not all of their possessions. But yes, let's mock the dead and call them idiots instead of actually acknowledging the extreme hardships that come with evacuation efforts.

Yes, the extreme hardship of going out of town for a day or two, or even just walking 30 minutes away from the coast.

Yeah, try going to an area being hit by the Hurricane and just walk for 30 minutes. Obviously the additional two miles are all you need to go from certain death to complete safety. Sure, they have ordered that entire states evacuate, but clearly just moving away a little bit will solve the problem. And even if they did need to get out of the entire affected area, which they are calling for, clearly every single one of them has ready access to transportation and the economic means to support themselves with what little they can grab before getting out, because evidently poverty has ceased to exist.

[Tsaraine]

If you're thinking of donating to Haitian disaster relief, your first instinct might be to throw money at the Red Cross. But their record in Haiti after the 2010 quake is the opposite of good; I'm trying to find a reliable source but my Twitter feed is saying that Haitians have specifically asked that people not donate to the Red Cross.

Having trouble finding more concrete references but this is the list that's going around my Twitter feed.

[Imperial Union of America]

Yes, the extreme hardship of going out of town for a day or two, or even just walking 30 minutes away from the coast.

Yeah, try going to an area being hit by the Hurricane and just walk for 30 minutes. Obviously the additional two miles are all you need to go from certain death to complete safety. Sure, they have ordered that entire states evacuate, but clearly just moving away a little bit will solve the problem. And even if they did need to get out of the entire affected area, which they are calling for, clearly every single one of them has ready access to transportation and the economic means to support themselves with what little they can grab before getting out, because evidently poverty has ceased to exist.

More or less. The difference between drowning to death and surviving really is just may be down to a 30 minute or an hour walk away from the shoreline.

Economic hardship doesn't mean you can't walk, unless you're actually physically disabled.

[USS Monitor]

Yeah, try going to an area being hit by the Hurricane and just walk for 30 minutes. Obviously the additional two miles are all you need to go from certain death to complete safety. Sure, they have ordered that entire states evacuate, but clearly just moving away a little bit will solve the problem. And even if they did need to get out of the entire affected area, which they are calling for, clearly every single one of them has ready access to transportation and the economic means to support themselves with what little they can grab before getting out, because evidently poverty has ceased to exist.

More or less. The difference between drowning to death and surviving really is just may be down to a 30 minute or an hour walk away from the shoreline.

Economic hardship doesn't mean you can't walk, unless you're actually physically disabled.

Well, some people are disabled, or just in poor health.