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Postby New Grestin » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:56 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:private industry


I'm sure nothing can go wrong with this.

I mean, It's not like private industry corrupts and mutilates everything it touches.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:01 pm

Aclion wrote:Except now you have a single company with control over the top level domains, and since they are a private entity they're not subject to first amendment restrictions on censorship.


ICANN isn't a private commercial company. It is a non profit organization which has been placed in charge of the maintenance of root DNS servers and managing IP address allocation, which in terms of IPv4- there is a limited pool of at any given time. So far as entities go, ICANN is seen as reliable and this has the support of virtually the entire IT industry. This doesn't really prevent any new top level domains from forming nor additional root DNS servers from being added in different geographic locations.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:33 pm

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Aclion wrote:Except now you have a single company with control over the top level domains, and since they are a private entity they're not subject to first amendment restrictions on censorship.


ICANN isn't a private commercial company. It is a non profit organization which has been placed in charge of the maintenance of root DNS servers and managing IP address allocation, which in terms of IPv4- there is a limited pool of at any given time. So far as entities go, ICANN is seen as reliable and this has the support of virtually the entire IT industry. This doesn't really prevent any new top level domains from forming nor additional root DNS servers from being added in different geographic locations.

I dont trust the phrase 'Non profit' after seeing a lot of people make extreme amounts of money every year without having to pay as much in taxes.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:52 pm

The Forsworn Knights wrote:I don't trust the phrase 'Non profit' after seeing a lot of people make extreme amounts of money every year without having to pay as much in taxes.


A non profit just means that an organization has a purpose other than making a profit like a traditional business would. It spends whatever economic surplus or budget it gets on further achieving its mission rather than distributing it to shareholders. An NPO doesn't necessarily lose money and isn't always a charity.
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Postby Indira » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:44 am

Great Kauthar wrote:http://fortune.com/2016/09/30/internet-oversight-transfer-saturday/

(Reuters) – A long-planned transfer of the internet’s technical management from the U.S. government to a global community of stakeholders is expected to take place on Saturday despite last-minute attempts by conservative politicians and officials to delay the changeover.

The U.S. Department of Commerce is due to cede stewardship of ICANN, or the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, as scheduled after a lawsuit seeking to halt the transition was denied by a federal judge in Texas on Friday.

The U.S. government has been the primary manager of the internet’s address book since 1988 largely because it was invented in the country. Critics of the handover have attempted to block or delay it on grounds it could jeopardize free speech online, claims that the Obama administration and technology companies have said lack merit.

The lawsuit filed on Wednesday against the federal government by the Republican states of Arizona, Texas, Nevada and Oklahoma argued the handover was unconstitutional and required congressional approval.

ICANN, a California-based nonprofit, manages the database for top-level domain names such as .com and .net and their corresponding numeric addresses that allow computers to connect.

After the transfer, ICANN will be governed by a collection of academics, technical experts, private industry and government representatives, public interest advocates and individual users around the world, in what it calls a “multi-stakeholder process.”

So lads, our liberty is gone now. Barack Obama continues his crusade against freedom, and sells the internet to foreign countries. A collection of "academics... private industry and government representatives" means you could have foreign countries, like Saudi Arabia and China controlling the internet. What do you all think of this???
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:44 am

Saiwania wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:I don't trust the phrase 'Non profit' after seeing a lot of people make extreme amounts of money every year without having to pay as much in taxes.


A non profit just means that an organization has a purpose other than making a profit like a traditional business would. It spends whatever economic surplus or budget it gets on further achieving its mission rather than distributing it to shareholders. An NPO doesn't necessarily lose money and isn't always a charity.

Except I can think of at least three 'Non-Profits' that scam the everliving hell out of their customers and employees, even going so far as to repeatedly blatantly steal from employees to pay for the extreme bonuses of the upper management.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:53 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
A non profit just means that an organization has a purpose other than making a profit like a traditional business would. It spends whatever economic surplus or budget it gets on further achieving its mission rather than distributing it to shareholders. An NPO doesn't necessarily lose money and isn't always a charity.

Except I can think of at least three 'Non-Profits' that scam the everliving hell out of their customers and employees, even going so far as to repeatedly blatantly steal from employees to pay for the extreme bonuses of the upper management.


And this is where I'll repeat again, that ICANN has been in charge of doing this already for several decades. This doesn't change anything, this is their job, all it does it make it official that 'ICANN does this, not us (US Govt)'.

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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:54 am

Saiwania wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:I don't trust the phrase 'Non profit' after seeing a lot of people make extreme amounts of money every year without having to pay as much in taxes.


A non profit just means that an organization has a purpose other than making a profit like a traditional business would. It spends whatever economic surplus or budget it gets on further achieving its mission rather than distributing it to shareholders. An NPO doesn't necessarily lose money and isn't always a charity.


Right. In the US a nonprofit may not engage in self-dealing (A board member of Blue Cross NY got a deal where he sold new computer equipment and programs to the organization for cash; he was a dentist with no computer experience. Everybody got fined and censured.), it may not make money for the private gain of its board or managers

(This is called "private inurement"; the CEO of Blue Cross NY had perks such as a penthouse and a chauffered limo, and free meals at top restaurants, hidden under obscure line items; he was fined and censured), and it must spend a rreasonable amount of it budget on actually advancing its mission and not just paying family members and cronies and calling begging for money "public education".
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:22 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Except I can think of at least three 'Non-Profits' that scam the everliving hell out of their customers and employees, even going so far as to repeatedly blatantly steal from employees to pay for the extreme bonuses of the upper management.


And this is where I'll repeat again, that ICANN has been in charge of doing this already for several decades. This doesn't change anything, this is their job, all it does it make it official that 'ICANN does this, not us (US Govt)'.


Tbf Though, they did it at the direction of the commerce department. Now they do it at the direction of a international private entity, (which is more of a public-private partnership) than anything else.
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Postby Kravanica » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:42 am

Well this sucks. This globalist nonsense needs to stop.
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Postby Kravanica » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:42 am

New Grestin wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:private industry


I'm sure nothing can go wrong with this.

I mean, It's not like private industry corrupts and mutilates everything it touches.

You could say the same about government, honestly.
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Postby European Guilds » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:44 am

Kravanica wrote:
New Grestin wrote:
I'm sure nothing can go wrong with this.

I mean, It's not like private industry corrupts and mutilates everything it touches.

You could say the same about government, honestly.

You could say the same about people in general.

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