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Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
268
36%
Eastern Orthodox
66
9%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
4
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
36
5%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
93
12%
Methodist
33
4%
Baptist
67
9%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
55
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
22
3%
Other Christian
101
14%
 
Total votes : 745

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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:48 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:usually it's the militant atheists, who come during summer.... this militant fundamentalist invasion is an oddity this year.


I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm rather secular. But this thread is a Popish circle-jerk where people pat each other on the back based on more "traditional" their church is, all while basking in the benefits brought on to them by the blood and sweat of Calvinists who created the modern world.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 25, 2017 2:50 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:usually it's the militant atheists, who come during summer.... this militant fundamentalist invasion is an oddity this year.


I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm rather secular. But this thread is a Popish circle-jerk where people pat each other on the back based on more "traditional" their church is, all while basking in the benefits brought on to them by the blood and sweat of Calvinists who created the modern world.

Of all of the Great Powers at the beginning of the 20th Century, or, hell, the beginning of the 19th Century, I'm pretty sure not a single one was majority-Calvinist.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:51 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
The Orthodox are OG papist, although their episcopate isn't as wicked, corrupt, and responsible for human tragedy.

NAH NAH MAN.

WE CATHOLICS, WE'RE THE OGs.

YOU SEE THIS MAN?!

Image

LOOK AT THAT PAPAL SWAG. YOU DON'T GET MORE GANGSTER THAN THAT, I TELL YOU WHUT.

:lol2:


Pope Francis has excelled in American Catholics cringeworthy again, that's for sure.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu May 25, 2017 2:51 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:usually it's the militant atheists, who come during summer.... this militant fundamentalist invasion is an oddity this year.


I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm rather secular. But this thread is a Popish circle-jerk where people pat each other on the back based on more "traditional" their church is, all while basking in the benefits brought on to them by the blood and sweat of Calvinists who created the modern world.


Calvin was a moron. Edit: no that's not fair. Calvin was actually quite intelligent. He was also however borderline blasphemous and theologically ignorant.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Thu May 25, 2017 2:52 pm

Dylar wrote:*cough*Catholic Church was here before the Orthodox*cough*

No, they weren't. The Orthodox Church was the original Church, mate.

Not that we're ever going to agree on this, of course, but I just wanted to make our stance clear for our new misguided Protestant friend.

The Sauganash Union wrote:Yes, the Catholic Church was before the Orthodox Church, but the Orthodox Church is arguably closer to what the Catholic Church was at the time of schism.

As admitted by the Vatican itself, the beliefs currently held by the Orthodox Church are those that have always been held by the Eastern part of Chalcedonian Christianity.

The Catholic Church was formed by the Patriarchate of the West breaking away from the rest of the Orthodox Church - for a number of reasons, but mainly due to its desire to make the Bishop of Rome supreme over all other bishops.

The Sauganash Union wrote:And where do I start? Besides the Jesuits fostering communist revolutions in El Salvador

The Sauganash Union wrote:and fighting secularism in America tooth and nail so that they could have their precious "parish schools"

The Sauganash Union wrote:Also, the Catholic Church is one of the biggest sponsors of mass immigration and refugee resettlement.

Are you trying to get me to become a papist? :lol:
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 25, 2017 2:52 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Luminesa wrote:NAH NAH MAN.

WE CATHOLICS, WE'RE THE OGs.

YOU SEE THIS MAN?!

Image

LOOK AT THAT PAPAL SWAG. YOU DON'T GET MORE GANGSTER THAN THAT, I TELL YOU WHUT.

:lol2:


Pope Francis has excelled in American Catholics cringeworthy again, that's for sure.

...By washing the feet of prisoners and by not living in the Papal Mansion, sure.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:53 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm rather secular. But this thread is a Popish circle-jerk where people pat each other on the back based on more "traditional" their church is, all while basking in the benefits brought on to them by the blood and sweat of Calvinists who created the modern world.

Of all of the Great Powers at the beginning of the 20th Century, or, hell, the beginning of the 19th Century, I'm pretty sure not a single one was majority-Calvinist.


Maybe so. But the Calvinist spirit of the most radical elements of English society manifested themselves in the United States (and to lesser extents in the wider British Empire and the Netherlands), allowing it to become the great rival to the Old World Catholic despots and create a superior society.

But maybe it's not fair to say just Calvinist, but rather Protestant (mainline that is) in general. Anglo Anglicans/Episcopalians and German and Nordic Lutherans produced similar results.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 2:54 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:I take offense at that last word. I'm no papist.

I AM!!!! 8D

You're my fav papist
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Postby Constantinopolis » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
I'm not a fundamentalist. I'm rather secular. But this thread is a Popish circle-jerk where people pat each other on the back based on more "traditional" their church is, all while basking in the benefits brought on to them by the blood and sweat of Calvinists who created the modern world.

Calvin was a moron.

^ This.

Also, Calvin was an evil man, a heretic, and a blasphemer, who probably did more than any other Christian in history to defame and insult God.

Everything the Catholic Church did against Calvinism was 100% justified.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:And where do I start? Besides the Jesuits fostering communist revolutions in El Salvador

The Sauganash Union wrote:and fighting secularism in America tooth and nail so that they could have their precious "parish schools"

The Sauganash Union wrote:Also, the Catholic Church is one of the biggest sponsors of mass immigration and refugee resettlement.

Are you trying to get me to become a papist? :lol:


This is why we had immigration laws in the 1920s.

Communists and Catholics were causing a lot of bullshit.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Dylar wrote:*cough*Catholic Church was here before the Orthodox*cough*

No, they weren't. The Orthodox Church was the original Church, mate.

Not that we're ever going to agree on this, of course, but I just wanted to make our stance clear for our new misguided Protestant friend.

The Sauganash Union wrote:Yes, the Catholic Church was before the Orthodox Church, but the Orthodox Church is arguably closer to what the Catholic Church was at the time of schism.

As admitted by the Vatican itself, the beliefs currently held by the Orthodox Church are those that have always been held by the Eastern part of Chalcedonian Christianity.

The Catholic Church was formed by the Patriarchate of the West breaking away from the rest of the Orthodox Church - for a number of reasons, but mainly due to its desire to make the Bishop of Rome supreme over all other bishops.

The Sauganash Union wrote:And where do I start? Besides the Jesuits fostering communist revolutions in El Salvador

The Sauganash Union wrote:and fighting secularism in America tooth and nail so that they could have their precious "parish schools"

The Sauganash Union wrote:Also, the Catholic Church is one of the biggest sponsors of mass immigration and refugee resettlement.

Are you trying to get me to become a papist? :lol:

SAUG, KEEP GOING. WE GOT HIM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT HIM.

*Hides in the bushes with a net.*
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Of all of the Great Powers at the beginning of the 20th Century, or, hell, the beginning of the 19th Century, I'm pretty sure not a single one was majority-Calvinist.


Maybe so. But the Calvinist spirit of the most radical elements of English society manifested themselves in the United States (and to lesser extents in the wider British Empire and the Netherlands), allowing it to become the great rival to the Old World Catholic despots and create a superior society.

But maybe it's not fair to say just Calvinist, but rather Protestant (mainline that is) in general. Anglo Anglicans/Episcopalians and German and Nordic Lutherans produced similar results.

All the while degenerating into largely liberal groups that are so stooped in heresy that they give communion to those living in states of grave sin.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:usually it's the militant atheists, who come during summer.... this militant fundamentalist invasion is an oddity this year.

We can the militant Jews come and have fun?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Of all of the Great Powers at the beginning of the 20th Century, or, hell, the beginning of the 19th Century, I'm pretty sure not a single one was majority-Calvinist.


Maybe so. But the Calvinist spirit of the most radical elements of English society manifested themselves in the United States (and to lesser extents in the wider British Empire and the Netherlands), allowing it to become the great rival to the Old World Catholic despots and create a superior society.

But maybe it's not fair to say just Calvinist, but rather Protestant (mainline that is) in general. Anglo Anglicans/Episcopalians and German and Nordic Lutherans produced similar results.


On the contrary, America itself would not have existed without Catholicism.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I AM!!!! 8D

You're my fav papist

Oh my gosh yaaaaaaaaay! :hug:
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
The Orthodox are OG papist, although their episcopate isn't as wicked, corrupt, and responsible for human tragedy.

NAH NAH MAN.

WE CATHOLICS, WE'RE THE OGs.

YOU SEE THIS MAN?!

Image

LOOK AT THAT PAPAL SWAG. YOU DON'T GET MORE GANGSTER THAN THAT, I TELL YOU WHUT.

:lol2:

I love you Lumi!
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu May 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:usually it's the militant atheists, who come during summer.... this militant fundamentalist invasion is an oddity this year.

We can the militant Jews come and have fun?


There are militant Jews?

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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Calvin was a moron.

^ This.

Also, Calvin was an evil man, a heretic, and a blasphemer, who probably did more than any other Christian in history to defame and insult God.

Everything the Catholic Church did against Calvinism was 100% justified.


You justify despicable acts of cruelty because people dared to tell the Pope to shove it?
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 25, 2017 2:57 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Calvin was a moron.

^ This.

Also, Calvin was an evil man, a heretic, and a blasphemer, who probably did more than any other Christian in history to defame and insult God.

Everything the Catholic Church did against Calvinism was 100% justified.

While I strongly disagree with a LOT that Calvin did...well...let's put it this way...he's still better than Joel Osteen.
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faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
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Postby Luminesa » Thu May 25, 2017 2:57 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:NAH NAH MAN.

WE CATHOLICS, WE'RE THE OGs.

YOU SEE THIS MAN?!

Image

LOOK AT THAT PAPAL SWAG. YOU DON'T GET MORE GANGSTER THAN THAT, I TELL YOU WHUT.

:lol2:

I love you Lumi!

:hug:
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:57 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:usually it's the militant atheists, who come during summer.... this militant fundamentalist invasion is an oddity this year.

We can the militant Jews come and have fun?


They are already having fun in the West Bank.
A nation founded in the early 1800s by Federalist immigrants from the United States. Has since developed an identity of its own and imperial ambitions. Now a neoliberal imperial power that justifies its aggression by putting it the name of tolerance and social justice.


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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Thu May 25, 2017 2:57 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:^ This.

Also, Calvin was an evil man, a heretic, and a blasphemer, who probably did more than any other Christian in history to defame and insult God.

Everything the Catholic Church did against Calvinism was 100% justified.


You justify despicable acts of cruelty because people dared to tell the Pope to shove it?


Come on, we all know the Protestant reformation wasn't that simplistic.

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Postby The Sauganash Union » Thu May 25, 2017 2:58 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
The Sauganash Union wrote:
Maybe so. But the Calvinist spirit of the most radical elements of English society manifested themselves in the United States (and to lesser extents in the wider British Empire and the Netherlands), allowing it to become the great rival to the Old World Catholic despots and create a superior society.

But maybe it's not fair to say just Calvinist, but rather Protestant (mainline that is) in general. Anglo Anglicans/Episcopalians and German and Nordic Lutherans produced similar results.


On the contrary, America itself would not have existed without Catholicism.


The discovery of the New World was inevitable.
A nation founded in the early 1800s by Federalist immigrants from the United States. Has since developed an identity of its own and imperial ambitions. Now a neoliberal imperial power that justifies its aggression by putting it the name of tolerance and social justice.


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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 2:58 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We can the militant Jews come and have fun?


There are militant Jews?

I don't know. I just want in on the fun. :p
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 25, 2017 2:59 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I love you Lumi!

:hug:

:hug:
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