Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

[Erinkita III]

It just doesn't occur to them that there might be any reason for a preacher NOT to be openly contemptuous of humanity. They don't see what relevance that has to their jobs.

Of course not, their contempt for humanity is what enables them to take advantage of people for money. They're not men of God, they're wolf in sheeps clothing.

They look like wolves to me. Which I now realise is because they've been wearing that disguise so long and so carelessly that all they've done is ruin the credibility of sheep in my eyes. I know what a wolf looks like. It's fluffy and bleating.

[Lady Scylla]

Pretty much. It's immensely unfortunate, however, that these attempts to retake Christian lands backfired so incredibly.
>tfw what was the largest Christian city in the world is now the largest Muslim city in the world
FEELS ON WHEELS

If it's any consolation, I still call Istanbul "Constantinople."

Istanbul derives from Stimboli, which itself is from He Polis/ I Poli (The City) which is what Greeks often shortened the name to.

[Pasong Tirad]

"Shoutout to all our teenage /pol/ supporters who say 'Deus vult' and praise a possible liberation of Constantinople; you guys are the real MVP's, and we couldn't bear the cross of hundreds of years of Turkish persecution without you."

-Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, maybe.

If it's any consolation, we saved all your stuff.

The question is are we giving it back?

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

You do realize the 1st crusade was a responsitory war against over a hundred years of Muslim aggression, right?

If Arch were here, there would be a lot of fretting.

The motivations behind the First Crusade were far more complex than that.

The first crusade was a mix of spiritual and religious reasons, since feudalism showed the first signs of crises, Islam spread throughout Europe and also showed that God was angry because they passed the thousand year and that something had to be done. On the one hand it was terrible because it only made the Byzantine Empire destroyed, but it was one of the essential factors for colonization in America.

[Lady Scylla]

If Arch were here, there would be a lot of fretting.

The motivations behind the First Crusade were far more complex than that.

The first crusade was a mix of spiritual and religious reasons, since feudalism showed the first signs of crises, Islam spread throughout Europe and also showed that God was angry because they passed the thousand year and that something had to be done. On the one hand it was terrible because it only made the Byzantine Empire destroyed, but it was one of the essential factors for colonization in America.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

The first crusade was a mix of spiritual and religious reasons, since feudalism showed the first signs of crises, Islam spread throughout Europe and also showed that God was angry because they passed the thousand year and that something had to be done. On the one hand it was terrible because it only made the Byzantine Empire destroyed, but it was one of the essential factors for colonization in America.

HOWEVER IS THE PROBLEM OF GIVING INFORMATION ?!?!?!?!?/1/11/1/!??!?!?!?!?/!?!/1/!?

[Lady Scylla]

HOWEVER IS THE PROBLEM OF GIVING INFORMATION ?!?!?!?!?/1/11/1/!??!?!?!?!?/!?!/1/!?

I don't even know where to begin. I tried to stay with you, but that car went off the side of the road.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

HOWEVER IS THE PROBLEM OF GIVING INFORMATION ?!?!?!?!?/1/11/1/!??!?!?!?!?/!?!/1/!?

I don't even know where to begin. I tried to stay with you, but that car went off the side of the road.

WHAT
my translator fails

[Lady Scylla]

I don't even know where to begin. I tried to stay with you, but that car went off the side of the road.

WHAT
my translator fails

Falas portugues?

Puedes entender espanhol?

Dijiste que America fue colonizada por que del declive de Constantinople.

Estoy confundida.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

WHAT
my translator fails

Falas portugues?

Puedes entender espanhol?

Dijiste que America fue colonizada por que del declive de Constantinople.

Estoy confundida.

eu sou brasileiro e tenho espanhol basico, serve?

[Lady Scylla]

Falas portugues?

Puedes entender espanhol?

Dijiste que America fue colonizada por que del declive de Constantinople.

Estoy confundida.

eu sou brasileiro e tenho espanhol basico, serve?

Você disse que a América foi colonizada por o declínio de Constantinopla.

Hence the confusion. My Portuguese is not the best, not that my Spanish is any better.

[Gim]

HOWEVER IS THE PROBLEM OF GIVING INFORMATION ?!?!?!?!?/1/11/1/!??!?!?!?!?/!?!/1/!?

What.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

If it's any consolation, we saved all your stuff.

The question is are we giving it back?

No they'd just lose it again. We'll hold on to it for safe keeping

[Tarsonis Survivors]

So EP is working being more open with Rome and Moscow is looking tonedcommujicate the EPz. Looks like the Orthodox Church is on track for a schism.

[United Muscovite Nations]

So EP is working being more open with Rome and Moscow is looking tonedcommujicate the EPz. Looks like the Orthodox Church is on track for a schism.

Any particular event this is referencing? I can't find anything too notable just searching for news about his all-holiness.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

So EP is working being more open with Rome and Moscow is looking tonedcommujicate the EPz. Looks like the Orthodox Church is on track for a schism.

Any particular event this is referencing? I can't find anything too notable just searching for news about his all-holiness.

https://risu.org.ua/article_print.php?i ... &_lang=ua&


I hope you can read Ukrainian

[United Muscovite Nations]

Any particular event this is referencing? I can't find anything too notable just searching for news about his all-holiness.

https://risu.org.ua/article_print.php?i ... &_lang=ua&


I hope you can read Ukrainian

I have to doubt the source, since the only article I have seen about this from the Moscow Patriarchate noted that the Bishop who organized the "synaxis" is not exactly friends with his holiness, Patriarch Kirill.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

https://risu.org.ua/article_print.php?i ... &_lang=ua&


I hope you can read Ukrainian

I have to doubt the source, since the only article I have seen about this from the Moscow Patriarchate noted that the Bishop who organized the "synaxis" is not exactly friends with his holiness, Patriarch Kirill.

Possibly, but it does seem to fit the narrative doesn't it? The Greek Church and the EP are much more chummy with the Romans than the rest of the EO, and it's feathers in Moscow.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I have to doubt the source, since the only article I have seen about this from the Moscow Patriarchate noted that the Bishop who organized the "synaxis" is not exactly friends with his holiness, Patriarch Kirill.

Possibly, but it does seem to fit the narrative doesn't it? The Greek Church and the EP are much more chummy with the Romans than the rest of the EO, and it's feathers in Moscow.

Eh, not really, the Greek Church doesn't really like the EP lately too, mainly because the EP tried to force the Greek Church to defrock a bishop, and the Greek Church basically ignored him.

The Ecumenical Patriarch has frankly tried a lot of people's patience, and I think he's overplaying his position. And, if anything, Moscow is probably one of the more moderate anti-ecumenist patriarchates. You should see what the Georgians have to say about the Pope, or, as they call him, "the Archheretic".

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Possibly, but it does seem to fit the narrative doesn't it? The Greek Church and the EP are much more chummy with the Romans than the rest of the EO, and it's feathers in Moscow.

Eh, not really, the Greek Church doesn't really like the EP lately too, mainly because the EP tried to force the Greek Church to defrock a bishop, and the Greek Church basically ignored him.

The Ecumenical Patriarch has frankly tried a lot of people's patience, and I think he's overplaying his position. And, if anything, Moscow is probably one of the more moderate anti-ecumenist patriarchates. You should see what the Georgians have to say about the Pope, or, as they call him, "the Archheretic".

We'll see what they call him after the answer to ZE INQUISITION! DEUS VULT!!

*cough*. Heh *cough*. I'm mean, that's nice.

[Gim]

Possibly, but it does seem to fit the narrative doesn't it? The Greek Church and the EP are much more chummy with the Romans than the rest of the EO, and it's feathers in Moscow.

Eh, not really, the Greek Church doesn't really like the EP lately too, mainly because the EP tried to force the Greek Church to defrock a bishop, and the Greek Church basically ignored him.

The Ecumenical Patriarch has frankly tried a lot of people's patience, and I think he's overplaying his position. And, if anything, Moscow is probably one of the more moderate anti-ecumenist patriarchates. You should see what the Georgians have to say about the Pope, or, as they call him, "the Archheretic".

Probably, they are standing opposite to the Russian influence. I mean, both countries have had schisms for the past few years.

[Pasong Tirad]

The Santo Papa's speech in Egypt.

All of us have the duty to teach coming generations that God, the Creator of heaven and earth, does not need to be protected by men; indeed, it is he who protects them. He never desires the death of his children, but rather their life and happiness. He can neither demand nor justify violence; indeed, he detests and rejects violence ("God... hates the lover of violence”: Ps 11:5). The true God calls to unconditional love, gratuitous pardon, mercy, absolute respect for every life, and fraternity among his children, believers and nonbelievers alike.

It is our duty to proclaim together that history does not forgive those who preach justice, but then practice injustice. History does not forgive those who talk about equality, but then discard those who are different. It is our duty to unmask the peddlers of illusions about the afterlife, those who preach hatred in order to rob the simple of their present life and their right to live with dignity, and who exploit others by taking away their ability to choose freely and to believe responsibly. It is our duty to dismantle deadly ideas and extremist ideologies, while upholding the incompatibility of true faith and violence, of God and acts of murder.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Eh, not really, the Greek Church doesn't really like the EP lately too, mainly because the EP tried to force the Greek Church to defrock a bishop, and the Greek Church basically ignored him.

The Ecumenical Patriarch has frankly tried a lot of people's patience, and I think he's overplaying his position. And, if anything, Moscow is probably one of the more moderate anti-ecumenist patriarchates. You should see what the Georgians have to say about the Pope, or, as they call him, "the Archheretic".

Probably, they are standing opposite to the Russian influence. I mean, both countries have had schisms for the past few years.

The Georgians really like the Russians, though, at least religiously.

[Dylar]

Interesting conversation when trying to tell my JW friend about the Eucharist:
Me:"Jesus says that the berad is his body"
Friend:"Show me in the bible where he says that."
*Pulls up the NASB, and the KJV, while he pulls up the JW's NWT*
Friend:"Let's see...it's in Matthew 26...*reading* Jesus took the bread, broke it, gave it to his disciples saying 'Take and eat for this means my body.' See?"
Me*reading from KJV and then from the NASB*:"Jesus took the bread, broke it, and gave it to his disciples saying 'Take this, all of you and eat of it, for this is my body, which will be given up for you.'"
Friend: "So, you're saying that Jesus condones cannabilism, which the Bible condemns?"
Me:"No, because he didn't tell us that it was okay to eat a random person on the side of the street."
Friend:"Sounds like it to me, which is why you and your 'Church' is wrong."
*sigh* It's Infidels like him that make me wish we had the 10th Crusade already...

[The Alma Mater]

Interesting conversation when trying to tell my JW friend about the Eucharist:
Me:"Jesus says that the berad is his body"
Friend:"Show me in the bible where he says that."
*Pulls up the NASB, and the KJV, while he pulls up the JW's NWT*
Friend:"Let's see...it's in Matthew 26...*reading* Jesus took the bread, broke it, gave it to his disciples saying 'Take and eat for this means my body.' See?"
Me*reading from KJV and then from the NASB*:"Jesus took the bread, broke it, and gave it to his disciples saying 'Take this, all of you and eat of it, for this is my body, which will be given up for you.'"
Friend: "So, you're saying that Jesus condones cannabilism, which the Bible condemns?"
Me:"No, because he didn't tell us that it was okay to eat a random person on the side of the street."
Friend:"Sounds like it to me, which is why you and your 'Church' is wrong."
*sigh* It's Infidels like him that make me wish we had the 10th Crusade already...

He IS quite right you know...