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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
268
36%
Eastern Orthodox
66
9%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
4
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
36
5%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
93
12%
Methodist
33
4%
Baptist
67
9%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
55
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
22
3%
Other Christian
101
14%
 
Total votes : 745

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:12 am

Philjia wrote:
Camaalbakrius wrote:Dude, the Church has changed since the 1600s


Yes. Now they merely assume you're going to hell. They don't attempt to bring you closer to it. :p

The Church does not assume anyone is going to Hell for anything. Anyone who dies is in the hands of Christ's Divine Mercy. If you don't understand how the Church works, you should ask questions, not assume things about Church doctrine.
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faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Camaalbakrius
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:27 am

Luminesa wrote:
Philjia wrote:
Yes. Now they merely assume you're going to hell. They don't attempt to bring you closer to it. :p

The Church does not assume anyone is going to Hell for anything. Anyone who dies is in the hands of Christ's Divine Mercy. If you don't understand how the Church works, you should ask questions, not assume things about Church doctrine.

OMG, did he just ASSUME church doctrine?
Lol, joking. Felt like I had to say that.
I wasn't mocking you in any way btw
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:24 pm

Camaalbakrius wrote:
Angleter wrote:
And we're thankful they let us vote these days.

Did you know that during Shakespeare's time, the idea was proposed to have all Catholics wear silly looking hats to allow them to be identified in public. I wonder what that reminds me of...

Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:33 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Camaalbakrius wrote:Did you know that during Shakespeare's time, the idea was proposed to have all Catholics wear silly looking hats to allow them to be identified in public. I wonder what that reminds me of...

Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.

...Christ the King isn't today, is it?
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:44 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Camaalbakrius wrote:Did you know that during Shakespeare's time, the idea was proposed to have all Catholics wear silly looking hats to allow them to be identified in public. I wonder what that reminds me of...

Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.


If the Church is ever reunited we shall have both the best hats and the best beards :P
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Urran » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:44 pm

I know next to nothing about Catholicism. I think I understand the basic structure but it's just not for me. I seem to be in a minoroty here :p

Of course I believe that as long as you've accepted Christ as your savior then it doesn't matter what denomination you are as long as you love God with all your mind heart and soul.
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Postby -Fahrong- » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:46 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.


If the Church is ever reunited we shall have both the best hats and the best beards :P

Orthodox already have the best of both.
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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:52 pm

Urran wrote:I know next to nothing about Catholicism. I think I understand the basic structure but it's just not for me. I seem to be in a minoroty here :p

Of course I believe that as long as you've accepted Christ as your savior then it doesn't matter what denomination you are as long as you love God with all your mind heart and soul.


Well, if you want to know what they believe, this is the best place to ask.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:56 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
If the Church is ever reunited we shall have both the best hats and the best beards :P

Orthodox already have the best of both.


Hmm, well, the Latins have the tallest hats anyway :P

Image
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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-Fahrong-
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Postby -Fahrong- » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:00 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:Orthodox already have the best of both.


Hmm, well, the Latins have the tallest hats anyway :P

Image

Image

That you do.
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With a tinge of Autarkism, Mysticism, Theocratism, Stoicism and Militarism.

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:03 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
That you do.


Oh dear, what is this?
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby -Fahrong- » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:09 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:
That you do.


Oh dear, what is this?

Catholic Penitents ofcourse.
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With a tinge of Autarkism, Mysticism, Theocratism, Stoicism and Militarism.

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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:10 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Camaalbakrius wrote:Did you know that during Shakespeare's time, the idea was proposed to have all Catholics wear silly looking hats to allow them to be identified in public. I wonder what that reminds me of...

Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.


While certainly not low tier, this chart lays out the fundamentals.

Image
Although the stars do not speak, even in being silent they cry out. - John Calvin

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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:19 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.


While certainly not low tier, this chart lays out the fundamentals.

Image

Angry Bears (get it?) always makes me laugh.
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Postby -Fahrong- » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:22 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.


While certainly not low tier, this chart lays out the fundamentals.

Image

An interesting image. I have certainly seen my share of completely ungroomed Orthodox beards however.
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With a tinge of Autarkism, Mysticism, Theocratism, Stoicism and Militarism.

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Postby Diopolis » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:27 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.

...Christ the King isn't today, is it?

In the Traditional calendar it is.
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:19 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...Christ the King isn't today, is it?

In the Traditional calendar it is.

Ah. Still got a couple weeks to go for me.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
Unofficial #1 fan of the Who Dat Nation.
"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
Pray for Ukraine, Wear Sunflowers In Your Hair

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Postby Nordengrund » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:49 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Catholicism has always had the best hats of Christianity, just like Orthodoxy has the best beards.

Anyway, I hope you're all enjoying the (Catholic)feast of Christ the King.


If the Church is ever reunited we shall have both the best hats and the best beards :P


Image
1 John 1:9

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The Princes of the Universe
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:13 pm

This is objectively bad. :o
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:17 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:This is objectively bad. :o

That is terrible
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Favorite bands: Bon Jovi, Guns 'N Roses, basically anything by Eric Clapton, Queen, AC/DC, a few songs by KISS, but I don't care much for the face paint.


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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:18 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:This is objectively bad. :o


Is this a good thing or a bad one?

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:20 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:This is objectively bad. :o

Is this a good thing or a bad one?

So-called Santa Muerte is a horrible perversion of veneration of the saints.
Pro dolorosa Eius passione, miserere nobis et totius mundi.

In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti.
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:21 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Is this a good thing or a bad one?

So-called Santa Muerte is a horrible perversion of veneration of the saints.

"Hey kids! Wanna go worship DEATH?"
Catholic Mentlegen

DEUS VULT INFIDELS
Favorite bands: Bon Jovi, Guns 'N Roses, basically anything by Eric Clapton, Queen, AC/DC, a few songs by KISS, but I don't care much for the face paint.


Not really a politics person, I don't care much about it.

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:29 pm

Camaalbakrius wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:So-called Santa Muerte is a horrible perversion of veneration of the saints.

"Hey kids! Wanna go worship DEATH?"

It gets worse... Most people who invoke her are in on criminal activity, often narcos.
Pro dolorosa Eius passione, miserere nobis et totius mundi.

In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti.
Domine Iesu Christe, Fili Dei, miserere mei, peccatoris.


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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:32 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:This is objectively bad. :o


Oh you'll find all manner of local saints. There was a local saint of Cartels and drug dealers also if I recall, just in case Walter White needed to embrace religion.
Although the stars do not speak, even in being silent they cry out. - John Calvin

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