Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

[Hakons]

Definitely, especially because I doubt they were Christians of any stripe. I'll ask the local Church to make a prayer session on Charlottesville.

May God have mercy on their souls.

How do you know none of them were Christian? You just came very close to implying they deserved it. You just came very close to implying that they had sinned by opposing Alt-Right White Nationalists. May I assume you didn't mean to do that? May I assume you didn't mean to interject your political beliefs into a prayer request?

We obviously don't know the religious status of the three deceased. Considering it was in Virginia, it is likely they were Christian. Two were police officers that died in a helicopter crash and one was a peaceful protester. The protestor had her past politics dug up and it appears she was a past Sanders supporter. I was a past Sanders supporter as well. While I understand a large number of Sander supporters were not Christian, I find it likely that the protestor was Christian, given her likely residency in Virginia. May they rest now in the presence of God.

[United Muscovite Nations]

With people turning away from God and viewing those who stay as essentially subhuman, it feels tempting to resign oneself to the fact that the modern world will never accept Christians as we are, and that the only way for us to be accepted/treated with respect is to literally fight for it a la the intent of the JDL. What would be a good way to avoid what is more or less the folly of Rabbi Kahane?

I think it's too late to stop the secularization of society. We will have to content, for a time, with teaching the faith to our children, along with the intellectual traditions of the Church. What we absolutely shouldn't do is not talk about our views, or compromise the faith to be more palatable to liberal Christians and to atheists.

[Hakons]

With people turning away from God and viewing those who stay as essentially subhuman, it feels tempting to resign oneself to the fact that the modern world will never accept Christians as we are, and that the only way for us to be accepted/treated with respect is to literally fight for it a la the intent of the JDL. What would be a good way to avoid what is more or less the folly of Rabbi Kahane?

I think it's too late to stop the secularization of society. We will have to content, for a time, with teaching the faith to our children, along with the intellectual traditions of the Church. What we absolutely shouldn't do is not talk about our views, or compromise the faith to be more palatable to liberal Christians and to atheists.

Yeah, the compromising our theology with liberalism has been disastrous for many Protestant Churches.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I ran a Hunger Games simulator for various different forms of Christian worship, and in the first round, the Tridentine Mass killed 6 other participants.

[Hakons]

I ran a Hunger Games simulator for various different forms of Christian worship, and in the first round, the Tridentine Mass killed 6 other participants.

Hunger Games simulator? God has spoken!

[United Muscovite Nations]

I ran a Hunger Games simulator for various different forms of Christian worship, and in the first round, the Tridentine Mass killed 6 other participants.

Hunger Games simulator? God has spoken!

Tridentine Mass killed the most people, but didn't win. It killed
>Byzantine Rite
>Coptic Rite
>Episcopal Church mass
>Jehovah's Witness worship
>Southern Baptist worship
>Prosperity Gospel
>Novus Ordo

[United Muscovite Nations]

On that topic, though, a question for traditional Catholics or Catholics in general: Why do traditionalist Catholics feel the Tridentine Mass needs to be in Latin? What would be the problem translating it into the lingua franca?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Hunger Games simulator? God has spoken!

Tridentine Mass killed the most people, but didn't win. It killed
>Byzantine Rite
>Coptic Rite
>Episcopal Church mass
>Jehovah's Witness worship
>Southern Baptist worship
>Prosperity Gospel
>Novus Ordo

Who won?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Tridentine Mass killed the most people, but didn't win. It killed
>Byzantine Rite
>Coptic Rite
>Episcopal Church mass
>Jehovah's Witness worship
>Southern Baptist worship
>Prosperity Gospel
>Novus Ordo

Who won?

The Book of Common Prayer. It was BS.

[Gim]

On that topic, though, a question for traditional Catholics or Catholics in general: Why do traditionalist Catholics feel the Tridentine Mass needs to be in Latin? What would be the problem translating it into the lingua franca?

To maintain the tradition of being in Latin, I suppose.

[Dylar]

On that topic, though, a question for traditional Catholics or Catholics in general: Why do traditionalist Catholics feel the Tridentine Mass needs to be in Latin? What would be the problem translating it into the lingua franca?

To maintain the tradition of being in Latin, I suppose.

Something along those lines for the most part. I'd actually like it a lot if my parish had a Latin Mass...but, what're you gonna do with only one parish priest? In other news, I might actually have to skip my first 2 classes on Tuesday to go serve the Mass of Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary which starts at 7 in the morning. And I might also have to serve the evening Mass on that day as well which starts at 6. This'll be fun!

[Gim]

To maintain the tradition of being in Latin, I suppose.

Something along those lines for the most part. I'd actually like it a lot if my parish had a Latin Mass...but, what're you gonna do with only one parish priest? In other news, I might actually have to skip my first 2 classes on Tuesday to go serve the Mass of Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary which starts at 7 in the morning. And I might also have to serve the evening Mass on that day as well which starts at 6. This'll be fun!

That's nice, although I wish the Mass starts, when you are not in class.

[Dylar]

Something along those lines for the most part. I'd actually like it a lot if my parish had a Latin Mass...but, what're you gonna do with only one parish priest? In other news, I might actually have to skip my first 2 classes on Tuesday to go serve the Mass of Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary which starts at 7 in the morning. And I might also have to serve the evening Mass on that day as well which starts at 6. This'll be fun!

That's nice, although I wish the Mass starts, when you are not in class.

Well, school starts at 7:35, but since it's a Holy Day of Obligation, and since I've served so many Holy Day Masses, and 10:30 Sunday Masses, I can expect the Mass to be about 1 hour-1 1/2 hours long. Whereas, daily Masses take about 30 minutes to complete. Just be glad that it isn't the Easter Vigil or the Christmas Mass. Christmas Mass I gotta serve at midnight and it's 2 hours long, while Easter Vigil, I serve at 11 at night. Thankfully, since those two Masses are on breaks or weekends, I needn't worry about school. However, after the Easter Vigil, me and the rest of the Knights of the Holy Temple go out into an Olive Garden parking lot and party for 2 hours straight.

[Gim]

That's nice, although I wish the Mass starts, when you are not in class.

Well, school starts at &:35, but since it's a Holy Day of Obligation, and since I've served so many Holy Day Masses, and 10:30 Sunday Masses, I can expect the Mass to be about 1 hour-1 1/2 hours long. Just be glad that it isn't the Easter Vigil or the Christmas Mass. Christmas Mass I gotta serve at midnight and it's 2 hours long, while Easter Vigil, I serve at 11 at night. Thankfully, since those two Masses are on breaks or weekends, I needn't worry about school. However, after the Easter Vigil, me and the rest of the Knights of the Holy Temple go out into an Olive Garden parking lot and party for 2 hours straight.

How many people are in the party? Around 500, I presume?

[Pasong Tirad]

On that topic, though, a question for traditional Catholics or Catholics in general: Why do traditionalist Catholics feel the Tridentine Mass needs to be in Latin? What would be the problem translating it into the lingua franca?

I honestly have no clue. I've never seen or even heard of a Tridentine mass being performed here, and with so many masses being performed in so many languages here, I'm not surprised.

[Gim]

On that topic, though, a question for traditional Catholics or Catholics in general: Why do traditionalist Catholics feel the Tridentine Mass needs to be in Latin? What would be the problem translating it into the lingua franca?

I honestly have no clue. I've never seen or even heard of a Tridentine mass being performed here, and with so many masses being performed in so many languages here, I'm not surprised.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tridentine_Mass

[Dylar]

Well, school starts at &:35, but since it's a Holy Day of Obligation, and since I've served so many Holy Day Masses, and 10:30 Sunday Masses, I can expect the Mass to be about 1 hour-1 1/2 hours long. Just be glad that it isn't the Easter Vigil or the Christmas Mass. Christmas Mass I gotta serve at midnight and it's 2 hours long, while Easter Vigil, I serve at 11 at night. Thankfully, since those two Masses are on breaks or weekends, I needn't worry about school. However, after the Easter Vigil, me and the rest of the Knights of the Holy Temple go out into an Olive Garden parking lot and party for 2 hours straight.

How many people are in the party? Around 500, I presume?

No, it's just 7-8 guys. The KotHT is a giant organization based in the Lafayette Diocese of Indiana dedicated to helping young Catholic high school men grow in their faith through service at the Lord's altar, and service in our local communities. That being said, the Knights are divided into "Chapters" which are essentially like bank branches. Each of these Chapters are based at parishes that want to have the Knights.The Knights at these parishes are almost always the local parishioners of said parish. So, my Chapter, the Saint John Vianney Chapter, has a total of about 7-8 guys. It varies every year. Now, 7-8 members sounds like that's too small. On the contrary that's about the perfect size for a Knights Chapter. You see, like I said above, with the Knights helping young men discover their faith, there needs to be a sense of comradery and brotherhood with the members. You can't get that if you have a chapter of say... 40 men. There are only 2 times when the entire Brotherhood comes together. Joust, which is every summer(No we don't mount horses and hit each other with lances. Imagine all the lawsuits), and Fall Retreat. That's when all the Knights come together to compete for a Shield(At Joust) and a Sword(At Fall Retreat), and to also initiate new members into the Order.

[Gim]

How many people are in the party? Around 500, I presume?

No, it's just 7-8 guys. The KotHT is a giant organization based in the Lafayette Diocese of Indiana dedicated to helping young Catholic high school men grow in their faith through service at the Lord's altar, and service in our local communities. That being said, the Knights are divided into "Chapters" which are essentially like bank branches. Each of these Chapters are based at parishes that want to have the Knights.The Knights at these parishes are almost always the local parishioners of said parish. So, my Chapter, the Saint John Vianney Chapter, has a total of about 7-8 guys. It varies every year. Now, 7-8 members sounds like that's too small. On the contrary that's about the perfect size for a Knights Chapter. You see, like I said above, with the Knights helping young men discover their faith, there needs to be a sense of comradery and brotherhood with the members. You can't get that if you have a chapter of say... 40 men. There are only 2 times when the entire Brotherhood comes together. Joust, which is every summer(No we don't mount horses and hit each other with lances. Imagine all the lawsuits), and Fall Retreat. That's when all the Knights come together to compete for a Shield(At Joust) and a Sword(At Fall Retreat), and to also initiate new members into the Order.

It should be fun for a small group. I mean, you can have that kind of enjoyment with five hundred people in the field.

[Dylar]

No, it's just 7-8 guys. The KotHT is a giant organization based in the Lafayette Diocese of Indiana dedicated to helping young Catholic high school men grow in their faith through service at the Lord's altar, and service in our local communities. That being said, the Knights are divided into "Chapters" which are essentially like bank branches. Each of these Chapters are based at parishes that want to have the Knights.The Knights at these parishes are almost always the local parishioners of said parish. So, my Chapter, the Saint John Vianney Chapter, has a total of about 7-8 guys. It varies every year. Now, 7-8 members sounds like that's too small. On the contrary that's about the perfect size for a Knights Chapter. You see, like I said above, with the Knights helping young men discover their faith, there needs to be a sense of comradery and brotherhood with the members. You can't get that if you have a chapter of say... 40 men. There are only 2 times when the entire Brotherhood comes together. Joust, which is every summer(No we don't mount horses and hit each other with lances. Imagine all the lawsuits), and Fall Retreat. That's when all the Knights come together to compete for a Shield(At Joust) and a Sword(At Fall Retreat), and to also initiate new members into the Order.

It should be fun for a small group. I mean, you can have that kind of enjoyment with five hundred people in the field.

Yeah, it's really fun with em. I treat 'em like they're my own flesh and blood. Now Joust...that's a different story. You should try playing Ultimate Frisbee with over 100 people, where half of them are jocks that love going shirtless, and always end up on the same shirt-less team. You get your rear-end handed to ya, guaranteed.

[Gim]

It should be fun for a small group. I mean, you can have that kind of enjoyment with five hundred people in the field.

Yeah, it's really fun with em. I treat 'em like they're my own flesh and blood. Now Joust...that's a different story. You should try playing Ultimate Frisbee with over 100 people, where half of them are jocks that love going shirtless, and always end up on the same shirt-less team. You get your rear-end handed to ya, guaranteed.

Haha, nice. I mean, they must be pretty confident about their bodies, if they are going shirtless.
So, that's what a Catholic community is about.

[New Visayan Islands]

On that topic, though, a question for traditional Catholics or Catholics in general: Why do traditionalist Catholics feel the Tridentine Mass needs to be in Latin? What would be the problem translating it into the lingua franca?

I honestly have no clue. I've never seen or even heard of a Tridentine mass being performed here, and with so many masses being performed in so many languages here, I'm not surprised.

Just for the record, witnessing a Tridentine Mass is part of my bucket list.

EDIT: Also, today (8/14) is the feast day of St. Maximilian Maria Kolbe. Martyred by the Nazis in the Holocaust.

[Gim]

I honestly have no clue. I've never seen or even heard of a Tridentine mass being performed here, and with so many masses being performed in so many languages here, I'm not surprised.

Just for the record, witnessing a Tridentine Mass is part of my bucket list.

Unfortunately, I'm a Protestant, so I can't attend the Mass. Good luck watching it, when you get to watch it, though, Visayan.

[Dylar]

Yeah, it's really fun with em. I treat 'em like they're my own flesh and blood. Now Joust...that's a different story. You should try playing Ultimate Frisbee with over 100 people, where half of them are jocks that love going shirtless, and always end up on the same shirt-less team. You get your rear-end handed to ya, guaranteed.

Haha, nice. I mean, they must be pretty confident about their bodies, if they are going shirtless.
So, that's what a Catholic community is about.

Well, a highschool Catholic community, anyway. I guess Seminary is somewhat similar to that. Which actually, was one of the reasons the KotHT was founded; To make the young Catholic men open to discernment for their vocations. Religious life,married life, or single life. Honestly, I'm on the fence in between religious life and single life. Weather man, or priest. And if a priest; a Diocesan priest or a priest in a religious order like the Jesuits, Dominicans, Franciscans, etc.

[Pasong Tirad]

I honestly have no clue. I've never seen or even heard of a Tridentine mass being performed here, and with so many masses being performed in so many languages here, I'm not surprised.

Just for the record, witnessing a Tridentine Mass is part of my bucket list.

Never heard of one being performed here, even if I'm in the Metro.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Just for the record, witnessing a Tridentine Mass is part of my bucket list.

Unfortunately, I'm a Protestant, so I can't attend the Mass. Good luck watching it, when you get to watch it, though, Visayan.

There are lots of videos on youtube.