Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

[Gim]

Honestly, Orthodoxy is the closest you'll get to a Bible studying religion, the only negatives is that we worship idolatry, which God forbids, and we tend to have a stereotype where if you do good deeds to to other people you'll be saved, that's partly true, but alot of people that do this are not doing it by will, they are doing it because the church says so..

They're free to ignore what the church says. That they're listening and following the instructions of the church is their own free will.

What if they pertain to the words of God Himself?

[Neo Balka]

My Mother is catholic and my father was a lutheran (MS).

Its odd because i often am torn between the two.

[Pasong Tirad]

My Mother is catholic and my father was a lutheran (MS).

Its odd because i often am torn between the two.

Catholics have crazy hats.

Join us.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

Honestly, Orthodoxy is the closest you'll get to a Bible studying religion, the only negatives is that we worship idolatry, which God forbids, and we tend to have a stereotype where if you do good deeds to to other people you'll be saved, that's partly true, but alot of people that do this are not doing it by will, they are doing it because the church says so..

That's true. God weighs motives; he doesn't weigh outward acts. That was in the Proverbs somewhere, but I don't remember the chapter and the verse number.

Hah, you tell me I'm constantly experiencing this, right now I feel ok with God, I can feel whenever I'm right or not with his holy spirit, I just feel it inside me even if I don't want to, today morning I drinked a higher amount of coffee than usual, I felt like I shouldn't drink it, I said to myself that I'll never drink coffee again, I felt right then..

[Gim]

My Mother is catholic and my father was a lutheran (MS).

Its odd because i often am torn between the two.

Lutherans give you huge crosses on which to lean. Join us.

[Washington Resistance Army]

My Mother is catholic and my father was a lutheran (MS).

Its odd because i often am torn between the two.

Catholics have crazy hats.

Join us.

The Orthodox have some pretty crazy hats too.

[The Blaatschapen]

They're free to ignore what the church says. That they're listening and following the instructions of the church is their own free will.

What if they pertain to the words of God Himself?

For me, I'll view it still as their own free will.

[Gim]

That's true. God weighs motives; he doesn't weigh outward acts. That was in the Proverbs somewhere, but I don't remember the chapter and the verse number.

Hah, you tell me I'm constantly experiencing this, right now I feel ok with God, I can feel whenever I'm right or not with his holy spirit, I just feel it inside me even if I don't want to, today morning I drinked a higher amount of coffee than usual, I felt like I shouldn't drink it, I said to myself that I'll never drink coffee again, I felt right then..

That's good. Keep praying and you'll start believing in Him, and you'll get more blessings from Him.

[Pasong Tirad]

Catholics have crazy hats.

Join us.

The Orthodox have some pretty crazy hats too.

Debatable.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

My Mother is catholic and my father was a lutheran (MS).

Its odd because i often am torn between the two.

Catholics have crazy hats.

Join us.

That's a nice statement.

We have fancy robes, roua mat

[Gim]

What if they pertain to the words of God Himself?

For me, I'll view it still as their own free will.

Paradoxically, God offers free will to us. It seems as if He wants us to reach out to him by the means of free will.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

Hah, you tell me I'm constantly experiencing this, right now I feel ok with God, I can feel whenever I'm right or not with his holy spirit, I just feel it inside me even if I don't want to, today morning I drinked a higher amount of coffee than usual, I felt like I shouldn't drink it, I said to myself that I'll never drink coffee again, I felt right then..

That's good. Keep praying and you'll start believing in Him, and you'll get more blessings from Him.

Huh? I'm 3-4 months in faith now, but I'm constantly falling and rising, when I'm right I feel clean and happy, when I fall I feel dirty and sad.

[Gim]

That's good. Keep praying and you'll start believing in Him, and you'll get more blessings from Him.

Huh? I'm 3-4 months in faith now, but I'm constantly falling and rising, when I'm right I feel clean and happy, when I fall I feel dirty and sad.

Be patient. Jesus is coming for you.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

What if they pertain to the words of God Himself?

For me, I'll view it still as their own free will.

They have been raised that way, my grandmother is a semi-radical Christian, my parents had raised me an atheist, my mother was suppressed by my grandmother to be an orthodox and my father just got tired as the years passed, they still believe in God but they have that new anti Christian ideology "Do what thou wilt"

[Gim]

For me, I'll view it still as their own free will.

They have been raised that way, my grandmother is a semi-radical Christian, my parents had raised me an atheist, my mother was suppressed by my grandmother to be an orthodox and my father just got tired as the years passed, they still believe in God but they have that new anti Christian ideology "Do what thou wilt"

In the Bible in the Book of Genesis, the King James version of the Bible states "Thou mayest eateth from the Tree", thus God somehow giving free will to his creations.

[Pasong Tirad]

For me, I'll view it still as their own free will.

They have been raised that way, my grandmother is a semi-radical Christian, my parents had raised me an atheist, my mother was suppressed by my grandmother to be an orthodox and my father just got tired as the years passed, they still believe in God but they have that new anti Christian ideology "Do what thou wilt"

Liberty isn't anti-Christian.

[Gim]

Catholics have crazy hats.

Join us.

That's a nice statement.

We have fancy robes, roua mat

Man, I'd love some fancy robes myself.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

They have been raised that way, my grandmother is a semi-radical Christian, my parents had raised me an atheist, my mother was suppressed by my grandmother to be an orthodox and my father just got tired as the years passed, they still believe in God but they have that new anti Christian ideology "Do what thou wilt"

Liberty isn't anti-Christian.

No, but going against God is, he gave us orders to obey, and we should obey them because they are basically a survival guide on how to survive on this world without facing the consequences in the next one that is about to come.

[Gim]

Liberty isn't anti-Christian.

No, but going against God is, he gave us orders to obey, and we should obey them because they are basically a survival guide on how to survive on this world without facing the consequences in the next one that is about to come.

That's right. If liberty were not sinning, there would not be hell.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

They have been raised that way, my grandmother is a semi-radical Christian, my parents had raised me an atheist, my mother was suppressed by my grandmother to be an orthodox and my father just got tired as the years passed, they still believe in God but they have that new anti Christian ideology "Do what thou wilt"

In the Bible in the Book of Genesis, the King James version of the Bible states "Thou mayest eateth from the Tree", thus God somehow giving free will to his creations.

How is that relevant to my post though? :b

[Gim]

In the Bible in the Book of Genesis, the King James version of the Bible states "Thou mayest eateth from the Tree", thus God somehow giving free will to his creations.

How is that relevant to my post though? :b

God is giving us liberty by saying we "mayest" eat from the tree. That bifurcates into obeying and sinning.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

No, but going against God is, he gave us orders to obey, and we should obey them because they are basically a survival guide on how to survive on this world without facing the consequences in the next one that is about to come.

That's right. If liberty were not sinning, there would not be hell.

Hell is meant for Satan and his "angels" not us, but by following satan we carry his burden, most of my family will burn for that and that deeply saddens me, but they choosed to disobey God, it's their own fault, and they dragged me in it too, even without knowing it.. But aside from that they're very nice people, that saddens me the most..

[Gim]

That's right. If liberty were not sinning, there would not be hell.

Hell is meant for Satan and his "angels" not us, but by following satan we carry his burden, most of my family will burn for that and that deeply saddens me, but they choosed to disobey God, it's their own fault, and they dragged me in it too, even without knowing it.. But aside from that they're very nice people, that saddens me the most..

Perhaps, if they repent, they can still secure spots in Heaven. You can try convincing them to pray.

[Traditionalist Conservative Hellas]

That's right. If liberty were not sinning, there would not be hell.

Hell is meant for Satan and his "angels" not us, but by following satan we carry his burden, most of my family will burn for that and that deeply saddens me, but they choosed to disobey God, it's their own fault, and they dragged me in it too, even without knowing it.. But aside from that they're very nice people, that saddens me the most..

But atleast hell is not for eternity, Humans won't burn for much before they die, demons and satan will, at the other hand.

[Gim]

Hell is meant for Satan and his "angels" not us, but by following satan we carry his burden, most of my family will burn for that and that deeply saddens me, but they choosed to disobey God, it's their own fault, and they dragged me in it too, even without knowing it.. But aside from that they're very nice people, that saddens me the most..

But atleast hell is not for eternity, Humans won't burn for much before they die, demons and satan will, at the other hand.

Humans who don't repent and wittingly commit sins can go to Hell. However, if they repent, they can reach the paradise.