Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

[Czechanada]

No idea. Moderate trads tend to have beards, but for some reason the real rad trads don't. Part of it probably has to do with the western dress code for priests(Latin priests, outside of specific situations, were for a long time forbidden to have beards, presumably as a humility thing) and traddies tend to view the priest as the pinnacle of masculinity. Just the way the history developed, I guess.

Also, and unrelated to the discussion, but what's with the sig? Please tell me you aren't seriously supporting Richard Spencer and that garbage. :/

Dio has a long history of sarcastic sigs.

[Pasong Tirad]

Alright Ortho's.. the beard shtick was funny, but it's getting ridiculous.

https://heatst.com/life/russian-priest- ... sm_fb_post

Beard = not gay

what?

Most Filipinos can't grow beards.

Most Filipinos = gay

[Lady Scylla]

Also, and unrelated to the discussion, but what's with the sig? Please tell me you aren't seriously supporting Richard Spencer and that garbage. :/

Dio has a long history of sarcastic sigs.

Thank God.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Beard = not gay

what?

Most Filipinos can't grow beards.

Most Filipinos = gay

Okay, okay, this has always confused me ever since a Vietnamese friend of mine asked, because she was married to a white man, if I thought her kids would be able to grow beards: since when do Asians not grow facial hair? I mean, look at Ho Chi Minh, or several pictures of Chinese Emperors. I know Native Americans have trouble growing facial hair, but East Asians? That can't be right, can it?

[Pasong Tirad]

Most Filipinos can't grow beards.

Most Filipinos = gay

Okay, okay, this has always confused me ever since a Vietnamese friend of mine asked, because she was married to a white man, if I thought her kids would be able to grow beards: since when do Asians not grow facial hair? I mean, look at Ho Chi Minh, or several pictures of Chinese Emperors. I know Native Americans have trouble growing facial hair, but East Asians? That can't be right, can it?

Facial hair doesn't really work well with humid climates.

That's why I said most. Most. It's not a common site near the equator. China isn't near the equator.

[Dylar]

Most Filipinos can't grow beards.

Most Filipinos = gay

Okay, okay, this has always confused me ever since a Vietnamese friend of mine asked, because she was married to a white man, if I thought her kids would be able to grow beards: since when do Asians not grow facial hair? I mean, look at Ho Chi Minh, or several pictures of Chinese Emperors. I know Native Americans have trouble growing facial hair, but East Asians? That can't be right, can it?

There's a difference between growing mustaches and goatees, and growing full-on beards.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Most Filipinos can't grow beards.

Most Filipinos = gay

Okay, okay, this has always confused me ever since a Vietnamese friend of mine asked, because she was married to a white man, if I thought her kids would be able to grow beards: since when do Asians not grow facial hair? I mean, look at Ho Chi Minh, or several pictures of Chinese Emperors. I know Native Americans have trouble growing facial hair, but East Asians? That can't be right, can it?

Asians can grow facial hair.

Their facial hair though is nothing like your facial hair, or mine for that matter.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I have a theory: Christ wasn't a carpenter. He was a stonemason.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I have a theory: Christ wasn't a carpenter. He was a stonemason.

Now where did that come from?!

[Maineiacs]

I have a theory: Christ wasn't a carpenter. He was a stonemason.

Jesus was a Freemason? Illuminati confirmed.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I have a theory: Christ wasn't a carpenter. He was a stonemason.

Now where did that come from?!

The word we typically have come to translate as "carpenter" is the greek word τέκτων, which means more generally as "Builder, or Craftsman," The Vulgate uses the word Faber, translates as "Architect, builder, craftsman, or carpenter." While traditionally, we use "carpenter" the word clearly refers to the more general "builder" profession, with Carpenter being a specialized form of τέκτων or Faber, working with wood.

Keeping this in mind, there are several other contextual ideas to consider. 1: Christ makes a lot of "stone" metaphors, he doesn't make any "wood" metaphors. 2. The architecture of 1st century Israel is primarily stone based, not wood based. Christ being a τέκτων, and a poor one at that, its unlikely he was a carpenter dealing in finished wood goods, which would have been a lucrative profession. More likely he was a general craftsman, working primarily in stonework: aka, stonemason.


It's not an overly important distinction, doesn't really take away from the Christian Narrative, but it's something I think should be taken note of.

[Menassa]

I have a theory: Christ wasn't a carpenter. He was a stonemason.

Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone;

[Constantinopolis]

Alright Ortho's.. the beard shtick was funny, but it's getting ridiculous.

https://heatst.com/life/russian-priest- ... sm_fb_post

"Kornily, who last month had a visit from Russian President Putin, expressed his concern that beards fell out of fashion (he clearly hasn’t been to Brooklyn). And also lamented that the tradition of beards has “completely disappeared from Catholic West”."

> Knows several Catholic priests with fabulous beards.

What a nut.

That was an Old Believer making that statement, and Old Believers are... kinda like Orthodox Amish. They're not exactly against technology per se, but they tend to separate themselves from the modern world, which they view as irredeemably evil and corrupt.

Notice the fact that Metropolitan Kornily referred to the "Catholic West", as if the West was still solidly Catholic, and Protestantism and atheism weren't even a thing. Old Believers don't exactly keep up with the news from the rest of the world.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Now where did that come from?!

The word we typically have come to translate as "carpenter" is the greek word τέκτων, which means more generally as "Builder, or Craftsman," The Vulgate uses the word Faber, translates as "Architect, builder, craftsman, or carpenter." While traditionally, we use "carpenter" the word clearly refers to the more general "builder" profession, with Carpenter being a specialized form of τέκτων or Faber, working with wood.

Keeping this in mind, there are several other contextual ideas to consider. 1: Christ makes a lot of "stone" metaphors, he doesn't make any "wood" metaphors. 2. The architecture of 1st century Israel is primarily stone based, not wood based. Christ being a τέκτων, and a poor one at that, its unlikely he was a carpenter dealing in finished wood goods, which would have been a lucrative profession. More likely he was a general craftsman, working primarily in stonework: aka, stonemason.


It's not an overly important distinction, doesn't really take away from the Christian Narrative, but it's something I think should be taken note of.

Huh, that actually makes sense. Never thought about it before.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

Today is St. John's Eve, and the summit of the June festivals here in Brazil! Then I will send a text of the celebrations in Brazil and Portugal

[Pasong Tirad]

Today is St. John's Eve, and the summit of the June festivals here in Brazil! Then I will send a text of the celebrations in Brazil and Portugal

That's great!

Also, Happy Feast of the Sacred Heart!

[The Alma Mater]

Christ being a τέκτων, and a poor one at that

Why do people always assume Jesus was poor ?

[Pasong Tirad]

Christ being a τέκτων, and a poor one at that

Why do people always assume Jesus was poor ?

Do you have any evidence to say otherwise?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Christ being a τέκτων, and a poor one at that

Why do people always assume Jesus was poor ?

Gives all his money to other people.

[Dylar]

Christ being a τέκτων, and a poor one at that

Why do people always assume Jesus was poor ?

Poor as in he wasn't the best at his father's job, which was wood-working, or in Tars' case: stone masonry

[Pasong Tirad]

Why do people always assume Jesus was poor ?

Poor as in he wasn't the best at his father's job, which was wood-working, or in Tars' case: stone masonry

And I'm pretty sure Christ was also relatively poor (I kind of doubt if He was dirt-poor, but definitely lower class).

[Dylar]

Poor as in he wasn't the best at his father's job, which was wood-working, or in Tars' case: stone masonry

And I'm pretty sure Christ was also relatively poor (I kind of doubt if He was dirt-poor, but definitely lower class).

Yep.

[The Alma Mater]

Poor as in he wasn't the best at his father's job, which was wood-working, or in Tars' case: stone masonry

And I'm pretty sure Christ was also relatively poor (I kind of doubt if He was dirt-poor, but definitely lower class).

Why ? Even ignoring the gifts of the three kings which would make him similar to a "lottery winner" - why assume he was anything less than middle or upper class ?

[Pasong Tirad]

And I'm pretty sure Christ was also relatively poor (I kind of doubt if He was dirt-poor, but definitely lower class).

Why ? Even ignoring the gifts of the three kings which would make him similar to a "lottery winner" - why assume he was anything less than middle or upper class ?

Perhaps at one point or another in His early life, but in His ministry? Definitely not.

I'd like to ask you, too: why assume he was anything more than lower or middle class?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Why do people always assume Jesus was poor ?

Poor as in he wasn't the best at his father's job, which was wood-working, or in Tars' case: stone masonry

Are you saying Christ was a shoddy builder?