Christian Discussion Thread VIII: Augustine's Revenge.

[Dylar]

Just for the record, witnessing a Tridentine Mass is part of my bucket list.

Unfortunately, I'm a Protestant, so I can't attend the Mass. Good luck watching it, when you get to watch it, though, Visayan.

Well, you could attend it, you just wouldn't be allowed to receive the Eucharist.

[Gim]

Unfortunately, I'm a Protestant, so I can't attend the Mass. Good luck watching it, when you get to watch it, though, Visayan.

Well, you could attend it, you just wouldn't be allowed to receive the Eucharist.

Oh, that's cool.

[New Visayan Islands]

Just for the record, witnessing a Tridentine Mass is part of my bucket list.

Never heard of one being performed here, even if I'm in the Metro.

I don't remember if UST had a Tridentine last year, or was it somewhere along Commonwealth?

[Gim]

Never heard of one being performed here, even if I'm in the Metro.

I don't remember if UST had a Tridentine last year, or was it somewhere along Commonwealth?

No, it was along Commonwealth.

[Pasong Tirad]

Never heard of one being performed here, even if I'm in the Metro.

I don't remember if UST had a Tridentine last year, or was it somewhere along Commonwealth?

Wouldn't be surprised if it was UST. They're a Pontifical university, after all.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I don't remember if UST had a Tridentine last year, or was it somewhere along Commonwealth?

Wouldn't be surprised if it was UST. They're a Pontifical university, after all.

I have no idea where this is in relation to you in the Philippines, but I know the Archbishop of Cebu is fairly fond of Pontifical High Masses.

[Gim]

Unfortunately, I'm a Protestant, so I can't attend the Mass. Good luck watching it, when you get to watch it, though, Visayan.

Well, you could attend it, you just wouldn't be allowed to receive the Eucharist.

Although I want the Eucharist as a souvenir, at least.

[New Visayan Islands]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was UST. They're a Pontifical university, after all.

I have no idea where this is in relation to you in the Philippines, but I know the Archbishop of Cebu is fairly fond of Pontifical High Masses.

Palma? Pity, in the few years he was archbishop before I moved to Manila, I never got the chance to participate in one of those; last time I was in one, I remember it was Cardinal Vidal who was archbishop.

[Gim]

I have no idea where this is in relation to you in the Philippines, but I know the Archbishop of Cebu is fairly fond of Pontifical High Masses.

Palma? Pity, in the few years he was archbishop before I moved to Manila, I never got the chance to participate in one of those; last time I was in one, I remember it was Cardinal Vidal who was archbishop.

Ooooh, some Filipino connection between you two, nice.

[Golgothium]

My family's Lutheran, but I tend to be less critical of the denominations these days. I'm a huge fangirl of crazy uncle Kierkegaard, for what it's worth.

[Gim]

My family's Lutheran, but I tend to be less critical of the denominations these days. I'm a huge fangirl of crazy uncle Kierkegaard, for what it's worth.

Nice, I'm Presbyterian! Great to meet you!

[Dylar]

Well, you could attend it, you just wouldn't be allowed to receive the Eucharist.

Although I want the Eucharist as a souvenir, at least.

You try to do that, and I'll have to use excessive force to stop you. Every host must be eaten, if someone takes it and does not eat it, then that would be sacrilige and desecrating the Lord. Remember, Catholics believe that the bread and wine used for the Eucharist are transubstantiated into the literal Body and Blood of Christ. Which is why anyone who wants to attack the Christian faith through desecration will go to a Catholic Church to steal the hosts. *sigh* Now I'm reminded about that one Spanish "artist" who stole so many hosts just to make an art peice out of them. And he also stole some and made a video of him throwing them on the ground and stomping on them...Fills me with so much rage...

[Gim]

Although I want the Eucharist as a souvenir, at least.

You try to do that, and I'll have to use excessive force to stop you. Every host must be eaten, if someone takes it and does not eat it, then that would be sacrilige and desecrating the Lord. Remember, Catholics believe that the bread and wine used for the Eucharist are transubstantiated into the literal Body and Blood of Christ. Which is why anyone who wants to attack the Christian faith through desecration will go to a Catholic Church to steal the hosts. *sigh* Now I'm reminded about that one Spanish "artist" who stole so many hosts just to make an art peice out of them. And he also stole some and made a video of him throwing them on the ground and stomping on them...Fills me with so much rage...

Oh, then. I should just probably view it, then. Thanks for the reminder.

[Free Maronites]

You try to do that, and I'll have to use excessive force to stop you. Every host must be eaten, if someone takes it and does not eat it, then that would be sacrilige and desecrating the Lord. Remember, Catholics believe that the bread and wine used for the Eucharist are transubstantiated into the literal Body and Blood of Christ. Which is why anyone who wants to attack the Christian faith through desecration will go to a Catholic Church to steal the hosts. *sigh* Now I'm reminded about that one Spanish "artist" who stole so many hosts just to make an art peice out of them. And he also stole some and made a video of him throwing them on the ground and stomping on them...Fills me with so much rage...

Really? Wow, that's... bad to say the least. Someone really has a grudge against the Church.

Ehhh, he will be judged like all others.

[Gim]

You try to do that, and I'll have to use excessive force to stop you. Every host must be eaten, if someone takes it and does not eat it, then that would be sacrilige and desecrating the Lord. Remember, Catholics believe that the bread and wine used for the Eucharist are transubstantiated into the literal Body and Blood of Christ. Which is why anyone who wants to attack the Christian faith through desecration will go to a Catholic Church to steal the hosts. *sigh* Now I'm reminded about that one Spanish "artist" who stole so many hosts just to make an art peice out of them. And he also stole some and made a video of him throwing them on the ground and stomping on them...Fills me with so much rage...

Really? Wow, that's... bad to say the least. Someone really has a grudge against the Church.

Ehhh, he will be judged like all others.

Maybe, he just wanted to accumulate wealth. I mean, the Eucharist must be pretty expensive, especially if it's covered in gold.

[Free Maronites]

Maybe, he just wanted to accumulate wealth. I mean, the Eucharist must be pretty expensive, especially if it's covered in gold.

By stealing from the Church? Unless the Church is oppressive or corrupt, he shouldn't do that.

[Gim]

Maybe, he just wanted to accumulate wealth. I mean, the Eucharist must be pretty expensive, especially if it's covered in gold.

By stealing from the Church? Unless the Church is oppressive or corrupt, he shouldn't do that.

Well, still, even if the institution may be corrupt, one should not steal. It's a violation of the Ten Commandments.

[Dylar]

By stealing from the Church? Unless the Church is oppressive or corrupt, he shouldn't do that.

Well, still, even if the institution may be corrupt, one should not steal. It's a violation of the Ten Commandments.

Eh, that wouldn't stop him. Most people who steal the Eucharist pretend to be parishioners when in reality they're either, A. Atheists who really, really hate the Church, or B. People belonging in some sort of Satanic cult...

[Gim]

Well, still, even if the institution may be corrupt, one should not steal. It's a violation of the Ten Commandments.

Eh, that wouldn't stop him. Most people who steal the Eucharist pretend to be parishioners when in reality they're either, A. Atheists who really, really hate the Church, or B. People belonging in some sort of Satanic cult...

Oooh, they're more subtle; I see.

[Free Maronites]

By stealing from the Church? Unless the Church is oppressive or corrupt, he shouldn't do that.

Well, still, even if the institution may be corrupt, one should not steal. It's a violation of the Ten Commandments.

While in most cases this is true, I feel like some measure of flexibility has to be allowed in cases where the Church/government is overbearing and ruinous in their taxation or confiscation. It's not stealing when you're reclaiming stolen property.

[Free Maronites]

Eh, that wouldn't stop him. Most people who steal the Eucharist pretend to be parishioners when in reality they're either, A. Atheists who really, really hate the Church, or B. People belonging in some sort of Satanic cult...

I worry that some may also be Christians of different sects. As we can see from history, relations between two Churches can be quite hostile.

[Gim]

Well, still, even if the institution may be corrupt, one should not steal. It's a violation of the Ten Commandments.

While in most cases this is true, I feel like some measure of flexibility has to be allowed in cases where the Church is overbearing and ruinous in their taxation or confiscation. It's not stealing when you're reclaiming stolen property.

Oh, in that case, yes. That's not really felony.

[Secundus Imperium Romanum]

Eh, that wouldn't stop him. Most people who steal the Eucharist pretend to be parishioners when in reality they're either, A. Atheists who really, really hate the Church, or B. People belonging in some sort of Satanic cult...

I worry that some may also be Christians of different sects. As we can see from history, relations between two Churches can be quite hostile.

These atheists are often just anti-theists just to show up, incredible as it may seem, I've met many atheists (conservatives) who advocate a society based on church morals and respect it.

[Gim]

I worry that some may also be Christians of different sects. As we can see from history, relations between two Churches can be quite hostile.

These atheists are often just anti-theists just to show up, incredible as it may seem, I've met many atheists (conservatives) who advocate a society based on church morals and respect it.

Atheists respecting church but not God?

[Hakons]

These atheists are often just anti-theists just to show up, incredible as it may seem, I've met many atheists (conservatives) who advocate a society based on church morals and respect it.

Atheists respecting church but not God?

They recognize the value of Christian morality in shaping the West. Nietzsche was an atheist, but he predicted that turning away from Christianity would result in tragedy. (It did)