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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
268
36%
Eastern Orthodox
66
9%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
4
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
36
5%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
93
12%
Methodist
33
4%
Baptist
67
9%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
55
7%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
22
3%
Other Christian
101
14%
 
Total votes : 745

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Postby Gim » Mon May 29, 2017 5:51 am

Nordengrund wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The Jews are no longer the Chosen People, because they betrayed God, now, Christians are the Chosen People.


What about a mass conversion of Jews to Christianity in the future?


Gradually, that might happen.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon May 29, 2017 5:53 am

Nordengrund wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The Jews are no longer the Chosen People, because they betrayed God, now, Christians are the Chosen People.


What about a mass conversion of Jews to Christianity in the future?

They would become part of the body of Christ, of course, but Jews no longer hold a special position, because of their betrayal of God's will.
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Postby Gim » Mon May 29, 2017 5:53 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
What about a mass conversion of Jews to Christianity in the future?

They would become part of the body of Christ, of course, but Jews no longer hold a special position, because of their betrayal of God's will.


Neither do others. All are equal at this point.
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Postby Germanic Scyths » Mon May 29, 2017 6:23 am

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At this point, Const is making near the same argument that Judas Iscariot did in his indictment of Mary Magdalene.


Capitalists always use their money to glorify the Son, then?

Because that was the point of what Jesus was saying to Judas, not "Hey, she can use her money however she wants regardless of whether needy people exist or not".

Ask the Catholics, just buy a piece of paper and your sins will be forgiven :lol:
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Postby Gim » Mon May 29, 2017 6:24 am

Germanic Scyths wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Capitalists always use their money to glorify the Son, then?

Because that was the point of what Jesus was saying to Judas, not "Hey, she can use her money however she wants regardless of whether needy people exist or not".

Ask the Catholics, just buy a piece of paper and your sins will be forgiven :lol:


What's it called again? Indulgence?
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Postby Germanic Scyths » Mon May 29, 2017 6:25 am

Gim wrote:
Germanic Scyths wrote:Ask the Catholics, just buy a piece of paper and your sins will be forgiven :lol:


What's it called again? Indulgence?

Indulgentia in Latin.
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Postby Gim » Mon May 29, 2017 6:32 am

Germanic Scyths wrote:
Gim wrote:
What's it called again? Indulgence?

Indulgentia in Latin.


Okay, I understand now.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon May 29, 2017 7:43 am

Germanic Scyths wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Capitalists always use their money to glorify the Son, then?

Because that was the point of what Jesus was saying to Judas, not "Hey, she can use her money however she wants regardless of whether needy people exist or not".

Ask the Catholics, just buy a piece of paper and your sins will be forgiven :lol:

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon May 29, 2017 8:34 am

Germanic Scyths wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Capitalists always use their money to glorify the Son, then?

Because that was the point of what Jesus was saying to Judas, not "Hey, she can use her money however she wants regardless of whether needy people exist or not".

Ask the Catholics, just buy a piece of paper and your sins will be forgiven :lol:


Yeah that's never been true.

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon May 29, 2017 8:38 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
What about a mass conversion of Jews to Christianity in the future?

They would become part of the body of Christ, of course, but Jews no longer hold a special position, because of their betrayal of God's will.

But if it was God's will for Christ to be crucified, wouldn't the rejection of God's will in fact be upholding the will of God?

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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon May 29, 2017 9:20 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:They would become part of the body of Christ, of course, but Jews no longer hold a special position, because of their betrayal of God's will.

But if it was God's will for Christ to be crucified, wouldn't the rejection of God's will in fact be upholding the will of God?

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-dumps ietsism unto the thread-

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon May 29, 2017 9:36 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:But if it was God's will for Christ to be crucified, wouldn't the rejection of God's will in fact be upholding the will of God?

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-dumps ietsism unto the thread-


That word has crossed the language barrier? Nice :D
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Postby Lady Scylla » Mon May 29, 2017 9:53 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
-dumps ietsism unto the thread-


That word has crossed the language barrier? Nice :D


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ietsism

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Postby The Novakian Empire » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:18 pm

Been looking at zoroastrianism lately. Such an interesting religion!
It's really a shame it's all but died out in recent centuries.

What do you guys think about it?
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The Novakian Empire wrote:Been looking at zoroastrianism lately. Such an interesting religion!
It's really a shame it's all but died out in recent centuries.

What do you guys think about it?

A rather organized and interesting religion, however, was influenced by Judaism
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:47 am

Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:
The Novakian Empire wrote:Been looking at zoroastrianism lately. Such an interesting religion!
It's really a shame it's all but died out in recent centuries.

What do you guys think about it?

A rather organized and interesting religion, however, was influenced by Judaism


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Postby Secundus Imperium Romanum » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:11 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:A rather organized and interesting religion, however, was influenced by Judaism


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Postby Corneliu Zelea Codreanu » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:53 am

The Novakian Empire wrote:Been looking at zoroastrianism lately. Such an interesting religion!
It's really a shame it's all but died out in recent centuries.

What do you guys think about it?

I'm not really the biggest fan of it, it seems kind of weird.
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Postby Hakons » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:11 pm

The Novakian Empire wrote:Been looking at zoroastrianism lately. Such an interesting religion!
It's really a shame it's all but died out in recent centuries.

What do you guys think about it?


C'mon now, what do you expect? :p

Zoroastrianism lacks the truth of the Gospel, so Zoroastrians are in considerable peril, come their judgement. They kind of have monotheism, so I guess that's a plus.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:16 pm

The Novakian Empire wrote:Been looking at zoroastrianism lately. Such an interesting religion!
It's really a shame it's all but died out in recent centuries.

What do you guys think about it?


Interesting, academically speaking.
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Postby Secundus Imperium Romanum » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:20 pm

Here in Brazil and other lusophone nations, we celebrate Valentine's Day (June 13) with the same day of St. Anthony - the holy matchmaker, do you American Catholics also worship St. Anthony as a matchmaker?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:28 pm

Secundus Imperium Romanum wrote:Here in Brazil and other lusophone nations, we celebrate Valentine's Day (June 13) with the same day of St. Anthony - the holy matchmaker, do you American Catholics also worship St. Anthony as a matchmaker?


*Venerate, not worship :P but I'll chalk that down to translation error.

I'm not Catholic, so I don't know. But I'm sure someone here has an answer.
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