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Postby Sack Jackpot Winners » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:04 pm

Spainard wrote:That moderator is not controlling these vicious dogs

He's not supposed to. He does it any more then he deserves the shitstorm that will be thrown at him.

EDIT: I thought you meant Holt. Yum's doing a good job IMHO.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:04 pm

Spainard wrote:That moderator is not controlling these vicious dogs


I'm doing my best!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:04 pm

Spainard wrote:That moderator is not controlling these vicious dogs

I think he's taking cat naps.
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Postby Balkenreich » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:04 pm

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There's already been some looming. Let's not get into actual name-calling.

How is it actionable to say Hillary used systemic racism when she did?


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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:04 pm

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Geilinor wrote:I didn't see that part, but stop-and-frisk invalidates his claims on racial fairness.

Some demographics are more likely to commit crimes than others. Why do we not want to take that into consideration?

Let's not
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Postby Liriena » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Thaaaaaat's it, Clinton. Keep your eyes on the ball. Give him more rope.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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Her supporters are the ones who perpetrated the rumors.

It was a small, angry minority of her supporters. Trump popularized it.


The media popularized it by quoting Trump.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I didn't see that part, but stop-and-frisk invalidates his claims on racial fairness.

Some demographics are more likely to commit crimes than others. Why do we not want to take that into consideration?

We can deal with that without profiling.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Isyrannaea wrote:
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There's already been some looming. Let's not get into actual name-calling.

How is it actionable to say Hillary used systemic racism when she did?


That wasn't the part I had a problem with.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Galloism wrote:Hillary is really prepared. I gotta give her credit. She's kicking ass.

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Postby Hittanryan » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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Her supporters are the ones who perpetrated the rumors.

It was a small, angry minority of her supporters. Trump popularized it.

That minority dropped it after the primary. Trump perpetuated it for the better part of a decade.
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Postby Candro » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

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Candro wrote:The US would bring Americans products down to Panama. Panama was no industrial hub so most products weren't made there but in America. The canal did boost their economy but remember for a very long time it was run and operated by the US only until it was handed to Panama did it really become a economic asset.


That is a rather good point. Although we're digressing on the original claim Trump made that American airports look like third-world airports, which is somewhat false depending on which airport we're speaking of. International airports, as a whole, are vastly more impressive than third-world airports of the same class.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Hillary, come on, some of your followers and indie PACs that were on your side actually DID go after Obama for his Kenyan heritage.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
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But most are racist shitlords who want to rape and murder, amirite?


Don't.

I believe that was a joke.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm

Ebliania wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean the guy who renounced the KKK and dedicated much of his political career to redeeming himself in the eyes of black Americans?

tbh if he was republican it'd be a different story

He wouldn't have done those things.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

"with no admission of guilt" is a dirty term to most americans, Donald.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

Yeah, "everybody was doing it and I didn't have to admit guilt." Right. You did have to stop discriminating, though.
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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:Some demographics are more likely to commit crimes than others. Why do we not want to take that into consideration?

Let's not

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Postby Liriena » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

Am I the only one who gets annoyed by Trump always adding "I have business there" when he mentions one city or other?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Hillary, come on, some of your followers and indie PACs that were on your side actually DID go after Obama for his Kenyan heritage.


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Postby New West Guiana » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

And he's talking about settling the apartment lawsuits with No Admission of Guilt as if that was a badge of honor.
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Postby Balkenreich » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

Benuty wrote:
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Don't.

I believe that was a joke.


Nothings a joke when its white males who are terrorizing innocents!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:06 pm

Galloism wrote:"with no admission of guilt" is a dirty term to most americans, Donald.


It's a bad slip. He's treating this like a business thing.
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