We are going to Mars

[New haven america]

http://futurism.com/its-official-were-going-to-mars/

I think this wonderful. We haven't been to a new planet since 1969. This is a brave new step and will allow the greatest country on earth to lead once again.

Stephen hawking once said that man's future -- if we are to continue to exist as a species -- lay in space travel and colonization. I agree.

Let's plant the flag on Martian soil and claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race.

Do you think we'll eventually colonize the red planet? Do you think this will make America an enthusiastic forward looking nation? Will we all gather to watch on TV as the White Race takes another giant leap?

Why are we even taking this seriously?

I would like to point out that anyone who thinks that the moon is a planet obviously doesn't know what s/he is talking about. I don't know how you expect us to take this seriously if you don't know what the moon is. The average person knows more about celestial bodies than you do.

And then there is that whole white race thing but you already lost credibility regarding the moon.

Oh, no one's taking the OP seriously (Well, I hope no one is), but the news is real, NASA's been given a large amount of money for a trip to Mars.

[Novus America]

Actually 77% is white,
"Race/Ethnicity (2015 estimates)[193]
By race:[193]
White 77.1%
Black 13.3%
Asian 5.6%
Two or More Races 2.6%
American Indian and Alaska Native 1.2%
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 0.2%
By ethnicity:[193]
Hispanic/Latino (of any race) 17.6%
Non-Hispanic/Latino (of any race) 82.4%"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

But yeah, racism has no place in discussions about space. Nobody will be claiming anything in the name of the "white race" which is a lose concept that is not a legal entity and thus cannot claim things.

I believe that makes us more than a 3/4ths majority.

That would make "whites" a more than 3/4ths majoity yes, but that has nothing to do with space colonization.

[Imperial Union of America]

Why are we even taking this seriously?

I would like to point out that anyone who thinks that the moon is a planet obviously doesn't know what s/he is talking about. I don't know how you expect us to take this seriously if you don't know what the moon is. The average person knows more about celestial bodies than you do.

And then there is that whole white race thing but you already lost credibility regarding the moon.

Oh, no one's taking the OP seriously (Well, I hope no one is), but the news is real, NASA's been given a large amount of money for a trip to Mars.

There are people here that agree with me. We are in the minority, but we do exist.

The story is real and significant. You don't have to agree with me, but i am required to put my opinion in the OP.

I'm willing to bet a lot of people who do not share my skin colour or opinions also take me seriously, considering the responses i've been getting.

[Novus America]

Why are we even taking this seriously?

I would like to point out that anyone who thinks that the moon is a planet obviously doesn't know what s/he is talking about. I don't know how you expect us to take this seriously if you don't know what the moon is. The average person knows more about celestial bodies than you do.

And then there is that whole white race thing but you already lost credibility regarding the moon.

Oh, no one's taking the OP seriously (Well, I hope no one is), but the news is real, NASA's been given a large amount of money for a trip to Mars.

Well NASA is not a good place to send the money. NASA cannot even put a man in space anymore. Let alone do something like the Mars mission. Unless NASA is completely overhauled it is almost certain to fail.

[New haven america]

http://futurism.com/its-official-were-going-to-mars/

Congress increased the NASA budget from $19.3 billion (this year) to $19.5 billion (next year), put Mars on the agenda, and we're cheering for WHAT exactly? That money is being ripped out of NASA's science programs for an all-muscle-and-no-brain dickwave at Mars that won't even happen ..?

Is there any serious possibility that the anti-science anti-spending morons of the House will stump up the starting cost of $100 billion, let alone the inevitable cost over-runs up to half a trillion?

Nothing to see here.

I wouldn't call researching trips to Mars to be a mindless dickwave, considering that climate change on Earth is currently almost irreversible (Unless we take extremely drastic measures now, which we're probably not gonna do), so we need to find a new home as soon as possible, and Mars is currently the 2nd most habitable planet we know of.

To Mars!

[Roskian Federation]

Actually 77% is white,
"Race/Ethnicity (2015 estimates)[193]
By race:[193]
White 77.1%
Black 13.3%
Asian 5.6%
Two or More Races 2.6%
American Indian and Alaska Native 1.2%
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 0.2%
By ethnicity:[193]
Hispanic/Latino (of any race) 17.6%
Non-Hispanic/Latino (of any race) 82.4%"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

But yeah, racism has no place in discussions about space. Nobody will be claiming anything in the name of the "white race" which is a lose concept that is not a legal entity and thus cannot claim things.

I believe that makes us more than a 3/4ths majority.

Race / Ethnicity Number Percentage of
U.S. population
Americans 308,745,538 100.0 %
Non-Hispanic White 196,817,552 63.7 %
Non-Hispanic Black 37,685,848 12.2 %
Non-Hispanic Asian 14,465,124 4.7 %
Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native 2,247,098 0.7 %
Non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 481,576 0.2 %
Non-Hispanic some other race 604,265 0.2 %
Non-Hispanic two or more races 5,966,481 1.9 %
Hispanic or Latino 50,477,594 16.3 %

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

[Novus America]

Congress increased the NASA budget from $19.3 billion (this year) to $19.5 billion (next year), put Mars on the agenda, and we're cheering for WHAT exactly? That money is being ripped out of NASA's science programs for an all-muscle-and-no-brain dickwave at Mars that won't even happen ..?

Is there any serious possibility that the anti-science anti-spending morons of the House will stump up the starting cost of $100 billion, let alone the inevitable cost over-runs up to half a trillion?

Nothing to see here.

I wouldn't call researching trips to Mars to be a mindless dickwave, considering that climate change on Earth is currently almost irreversible (Unless we take extremely drastic measures now, which we're probably not gonna do), so we need to find a new home as soon as possible, and Mars is currently the 2nd most habitable planet we know of.

To Mars!

Sending a few million more to the ruins of NASA is not going to get us there though.

[Imperial Union of America]

I just hope my comrades get to decide who goes and who stays. We might be able to make mars to our liking.

I think we should terraform mars if at all possible, but i seem to see mixed signals from expert sources on the possibility of terraforming.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/big-idea/07/mars

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/img/big-idea/mars.jpg

[AiliailiA]

Paying two cents for a kilo of platinum does sound like a nice change of pace, yes.

It would lose its value in jewelry. It's main value in jewelry is from its rarity.

Though it would make it more available for industrial uses. Kind of funny the idea of platinum being treated like lead or iron.

You know as soon as you land a kilo of that from space, there's going to be a rush to sell the thousands of tons of the stuff which is sitting in bank vaults doing nothing? Industrial users will thank you, but they won't actually buy much of it from you, they'll buy it from the suckers who are keeping it now as an "investment".

The price will crash even before you land it actually. Unless you pretend you're doing something else out there.

[Neanderthaland]

I have it on good authority that we're headed for Venus.

[Novus America]

I believe that makes us more than a 3/4ths majority.

Race / Ethnicity Number Percentage of
U.S. population
Americans 308,745,538 100.0 %
Non-Hispanic White 196,817,552 63.7 %
Non-Hispanic Black 37,685,848 12.2 %
Non-Hispanic Asian 14,465,124 4.7 %
Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native 2,247,098 0.7 %
Non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 481,576 0.2 %
Non-Hispanic some other race 604,265 0.2 %
Non-Hispanic two or more races 5,966,481 1.9 %
Hispanic or Latino 50,477,594 16.3 %

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

Hispanic is not a race. This mixes up ethnolinguistics and race on a one drop (word?) principle, and thus is silly.
There are white Hispanics, Black Hispanics, etc.
Though I am not sure what it has to do with space.

[Novus America]

It would lose its value in jewelry. It's main value in jewelry is from its rarity.

Though it would make it more available for industrial uses. Kind of funny the idea of platinum being treated like lead or iron.

You know as soon as you land a kilo of that from space, there's going to be a rush to sell the thousands of tons of the stuff which is sitting in bank vaults doing nothing? Industrial users will thank you, but they won't actually buy much of it from you, they'll buy it from the suckers who are keeping it now as an "investment".

The price will crash even before you land it actually. Unless you pretend you're doing something else out there.

Well yeah, it would suck for people holding platinum as an investment.

[Imperial Union of America]

I believe that makes us more than a 3/4ths majority.

Race / Ethnicity Number Percentage of
U.S. population
Americans 308,745,538 100.0 %
Non-Hispanic White 196,817,552 63.7 %
Non-Hispanic Black 37,685,848 12.2 %
Non-Hispanic Asian 14,465,124 4.7 %
Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native 2,247,098 0.7 %
Non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander 481,576 0.2 %
Non-Hispanic some other race 604,265 0.2 %
Non-Hispanic two or more races 5,966,481 1.9 %
Hispanic or Latino 50,477,594 16.3 %

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

Hispanic whites(of probable Spanish origin) are white people, too.

[New haven america]

I wouldn't call researching trips to Mars to be a mindless dickwave, considering that climate change on Earth is currently almost irreversible (Unless we take extremely drastic measures now, which we're probably not gonna do), so we need to find a new home as soon as possible, and Mars is currently the 2nd most habitable planet we know of.

To Mars!

Sending a few million more to the ruins of NASA is not going to get us there though.

The reason NASA's hasn't sent people into space is rather simple, 1. The shuttles weren't meant to run as long as they did, the program was extended past it's end date (Which was 2010) and keeping them running was too expensive to do, and 2. And NASA wasn't as well funded as they used to be.

But now they've been given a chance to not only send people back into space, but an entirely different planet.

[Imperial Union of America]

Sending a few million more to the ruins of NASA is not going to get us there though.

The reason NASA's hasn't sent people into space is rather simple, 1. The shuttles weren't meant to run as long as they did, the program was extended past it's end date (Which was 2010) and keeping them running was too expensive to do, and 2. And NASA wasn't as well funded as they used to be.

But now they've been given a chance to not only send people back into space, but an entirely different planet.

Can you believe we have to bum rockets off Russia now? we should increase NASA spending drastically, in my opinion.

[The Liberated Territories]

I just hope my comrades get to decide who goes and who stays. We might be able to make mars to our liking.

I think we should terraform mars if at all possible, but i seem to see mixed signals from expert sources on the possibility of terraforming.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/big-idea/07/mars

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/img/big-idea/mars.jpg

(Image)

We should definitely try. I personally like the idea about redirecting and focusing more of the sun's light using giant space mirrors to melt the ice and create water.

[New haven america]

The reason NASA's hasn't sent people into space is rather simple, 1. The shuttles weren't meant to run as long as they did, the program was extended past it's end date (Which was 2010) and keeping them running was too expensive to do, and 2. And NASA wasn't as well funded as they used to be.

But now they've been given a chance to not only send people back into space, but an entirely different planet.

Can you believe we have to bum rockets off Russia now? we should increase NASA spending drastically, in my opinion.

Aren't you supposed to be happy with that? Considering the vast majority of Russians are white.

[AiliailiA]

Congress increased the NASA budget from $19.3 billion (this year) to $19.5 billion (next year), put Mars on the agenda, and we're cheering for WHAT exactly? That money is being ripped out of NASA's science programs for an all-muscle-and-no-brain dickwave at Mars that won't even happen ..?

Is there any serious possibility that the anti-science anti-spending morons of the House will stump up the starting cost of $100 billion, let alone the inevitable cost over-runs up to half a trillion?

Nothing to see here.

I wouldn't call researching trips to Mars to be a mindless dickwave, considering that climate change on Earth is currently almost irreversible (Unless we take extremely drastic measures now, which we're probably not gonna do), so we need to find a new home as soon as possible, and Mars is currently the 2nd most habitable planet we know of.

To Mars!

Climate change on Earth could make Earth barely habitable to humans: we'd have to stay inside or wear protective suits outside, the outside work would mostly be done by robots, our food sources would have to be all genetically engineered. The population we could support would likely be much lower. It would be bad, but at least Earth would still have plenty of water, an ATMOSPHERE, and a protective MAGNETIC FIELD.

Even in the worst case scenario, Earth would still be a more viable place for us to live than Mars.

Don't give me sources, because I expect they'd make me puke. Tell me in your own words what you'd do to provide Mars with a breathable atmosphere.

[Costa Fierro]

In all seriousness I'd rather this money go to something, you know, actually important.

NASA's budget is around $19 billion a year. The United States Department of Agriculture has a $139 billion budget. I think the United States can afford to make spacecraft to visit Marvin the Martian.

[Imperial Union of America]

I just hope my comrades get to decide who goes and who stays. We might be able to make mars to our liking.

I think we should terraform mars if at all possible, but i seem to see mixed signals from expert sources on the possibility of terraforming.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/big-idea/07/mars

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/img/big-idea/mars.jpg

(Image)

We should definitely try. I personally like the idea about redirecting and focusing more of the sun's light using giant space mirrors to melt the ice and create water.

I read that we can create an atmosphere on mars by increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere -- it has an opposite effect as here on earth. It would help hold in heat from the sun by strengthening mars' very weak atmosphere. we can begin to plant trees and other fauna, and eventually, end up creating a breathable atmosphere. as mars heats up, the polar ice caps would melt and create flowing rivers. Having an atmosphere would also provide protection from harmful rays that our atmosphere protects us from.

In all seriousness I'd rather this money go to something, you know, actually important.

NASA's budget is around $19 billion a year. The United States Department of Agriculture has a $139 billion budget. I think the United States can afford to make spacecraft to visit Marvin the Martian.

I agree. The United States should see investment in space travel and colonization a necessary expenditure to assure the survival of our species. We should build a nation that looks to the future and bravely goes forward into the future. willing to accept all the risks that entails.

Can you believe we have to bum rockets off Russia now? we should increase NASA spending drastically, in my opinion.

Aren't you supposed to be happy with that? Considering the vast majority of Russians are white.

I would prefer the United States be able to sustain it without the Russian whites. America, for me, is ground zero for the future White Nation.

[AiliailiA]

It's really confusing me to have three posters on the same page whose names all end in "America"

[Freefall11111]

Oh, no one's taking the OP seriously (Well, I hope no one is), but the news is real, NASA's been given a large amount of money for a trip to Mars.

Well NASA is not a good place to send the money. NASA cannot even put a man in space anymore. Let alone do something like the Mars mission. Unless NASA is completely overhauled it is almost certain to fail.

NASA will be able to put a man in space soon, either by their own means or through private contractors. The true failing was that non-experts pushed for the space shuttle rather than continuing with conventional rockets, not that NASA failed to use funds efficiently. The space shuttle program was a waste of several decades, and the space shuttle finally being put to rest is the main reason there's a small number of years where NASA is reliant on Russia. The space shuttle could've been maintained until the SLS was ready, but that would've been a waste of money and a risk to astronaut lives. Much easier to take those resources and pour them into the SLS or private contractors instead.

[Novus America]

Sending a few million more to the ruins of NASA is not going to get us there though.

The reason NASA's hasn't sent people into space is rather simple, 1. The shuttles weren't meant to run as long as they did, the program was extended past it's end date (Which was 2010) and keeping them running was too expensive to do, and 2. And NASA wasn't as well funded as they used to be.

But now they've been given a chance to not only send people back into space, but an entirely different planet.

The shutdown of the shuttle is emblematic of much bigger problems. Despite the two accidents it had a great overall record and should have been kept in service until a replacement was available. People are going to die in space exploration. We would have never made it to the moon had we permanetly grounded programs everytime an accident occurred.

Also NASA's failure to plan for a shuttle replacement properly. NASA is now so risk adverse and reactionary, it is no longer capable of keeping up with the pace of technology. It is going backwards not forwards in many ways. It needs a complete attitude change more than money.

Also politicization and mission creep means it has spread its resources to broadly.

It has a lot of money. But not the ability to utilize it properly.

[Socio Polor]

I think that it's inevitable humans as a species will colonize other planets in the future, and I do believe that mars may be the first planet we humans colonize (other than earth of course). Once we reach the technological capabilities of interplanetary,interstellar and intergalactic space travel, who knows how many planets we may colonize, how many planetary systems and galaxies we may have visited.

[New haven america]

I wouldn't call researching trips to Mars to be a mindless dickwave, considering that climate change on Earth is currently almost irreversible (Unless we take extremely drastic measures now, which we're probably not gonna do), so we need to find a new home as soon as possible, and Mars is currently the 2nd most habitable planet we know of.

To Mars!

Climate change on Earth could make Earth barely habitable to humans: we'd have to stay inside or wear protective suits outside, the outside work would mostly be done by robots, our food sources would have to be all genetically engineered. The population we could support would likely be much lower. It would be bad, but at least Earth would still have plenty of water, an ATMOSPHERE, and a protective MAGNETIC FIELD.

Even in the worst case scenario, Earth would still be a more viable place for us to live than Mars.

Don't give me sources, because I expect they'd make me puke. Tell me in your own words what you'd do to provide Mars with a breathable atmosphere.

Domed or underground cities for habitable and protected living areas.

Solar panels (Orbital), nuclear plants, and hypothetical magnetic and geothermal (The least likely two, yet they're still possible) plants for energy.

Once we get those completed, then we can move on to terraforming the rest of Mars

Seriously? Have you not been reading the early parts of this thread?