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Postby Senkaku » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:45 pm

New haven america wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Probably easier to just ship fission piles or RTGs in the interim, but it's possible. Putting them in orbit might be better than on the surface, given Mars's annoying dust issues.

Yeah, but if the solar panels are in orbit, we'd need a way to consistently getting it. Maybe we could have specific shuttles and stations designed to collect and transfer solar energy?

I suggest you do research on this subject, because you just made yourself sound rather silly. :p The method would be to use lasers or microwave beams to beam the power directly to a collector station or stations on the surface, rather than using "battery shuttles" or whatever.
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Dalviric UIA wrote:I like the way you worded this, and I'm saying this in a totally not sarcastic way, don't worry.

I love how we're all just tap-dancing around the obvious issue with the OP.

Because it's so fun to.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Probably easier to just ship fission piles or RTGs in the interim, but it's possible. Putting them in orbit might be better than on the surface, given Mars's annoying dust issues.

Yeah, but if the solar panels are in orbit, we'd need a way to consistently getting it. Maybe we could have specific shuttles and stations designed to collect and transfer solar energy?

I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:46 pm

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Imperial Union of America wrote:http://futurism.com/its-official-were-going-to-mars/

Stephen hawking once said that man's future -- if we are to continue to exist as a species -- lay in space travel and colonization. I agree.

Let's plant the flag on Martian soil and claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race.


In one paragraph, you agree that humans should continue to exist as a species. Then, right in the next paragraph, you say that Mars should be claimed for the "White Race".

How does racial discrimination help us exist as a united species? :eyebrow:

When was the last time you met a racial supremacist who actually understood biology?

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Postby Dalviric UIA » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:47 pm

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In one paragraph, you agree that humans should continue to exist as a species. Then, right in the next paragraph, you say that Mars should be claimed for the "White Race".

How does racial discrimination help us exist as a united species? :eyebrow:

When was the last time you met a racial supremacist who actually understood biology?

He did say he wasn't a scientist.
Which was fairly obvious.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:47 pm

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Dalviric UIA wrote:I like the way you worded this, and I'm saying this in a totally not sarcastic way, don't worry.

I love how we're all just tap-dancing around the obvious issue with the OP.

We're not tap-dancing around it, we're ignoring it because IUA's rather stale blend of trolling, immaturity, hatefulness, and fanaticism shouldn't stop us from discussing an interesting subject.
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Postby Sjovenia » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:47 pm

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Let's plant the flag on Martian soil and claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race



Imperial Union of America wrote:
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Imperial Union of America wrote:
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^^^ What the hell are you on about?
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:47 pm

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New haven america wrote:Yeah, but if the solar panels are in orbit, we'd need a way to consistently getting it. Maybe we could have specific shuttles and stations designed to collect and transfer solar energy?

I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

:blink: Uh, what?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:48 pm

Sjovenia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Let's plant the flag on Martian soil and claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race



Imperial Union of America wrote:
claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race


Imperial Union of America wrote:
claim the red planet for the White Race


^^^ What the hell are you on about?

He's a white supremacist, ignore him and he'll fade away.

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Postby Senkaku » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:49 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yeah, but if the solar panels are in orbit, we'd need a way to consistently getting it. Maybe we could have specific shuttles and stations designed to collect and transfer solar energy?

I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

What even

Please go read about the subject of Martian colonization and terraformation instead of saying whatever floats into your head, if you want to have a serious convo about it I'm happy to

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Imperial Union of America wrote:
Let's plant the flag on Martian soil and claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race



Imperial Union of America wrote:
claim the red planet for the United States and the White Race


Imperial Union of America wrote:
claim the red planet for the White Race


^^^ What the hell are you on about?

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Postby The Portland Territory » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:50 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

:blink: Uh, what?

http://www.universetoday.com/9497/magne ... l-on-mars/

But the thing is, we don't know how much magnesium there is on Mars
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Postby The Great Devourer of All » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:50 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:http://futurism.com/its-official-were-going-to-mars/

I think this wonderful. We haven't been to a new planet since 1969. This is a brave new step and will allow the greatest country on earth to lead once again.


Debatable.

But I'm afraid that the moon isn't a planet, no matter how many patriotic tears you shed when you talk about Neil's first step.

Stephen hawking once said that man's future -- if we are to continue to exist as a species -- lay in space travel and colonization. I agree.


As do I.

Let's plant the flag on Martian soil and claim the red planet for the United States...


What if some of our allies want to join in on the fun? Denying them, or any country for that matter, that pleasure would be in no way okay.

...and the White Race.


What the fuck?

Do you think we'll eventually colonize the red planet? Do you think this will make America an enthusiastic forward looking nation? Will we all gather to watch on TV as the White Race takes another giant leap?


No, we'll all gather together to watch on TV as all the races of the world take another giant leap as one. Stop trying to make one of the biggest upcoming achievements of the 21st century about your bigoted views. I hope that at least one non-white astronaut lands on Mars the first time around just so that your fascist wet dreams will fail to be realized.
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Postby Dalviric UIA » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:50 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

What even

Please go read about the subject of Martian colonization and terraformation instead of saying whatever floats into your head, if you want to have a serious convo about it I'm happy to

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^^^ What the hell are you on about?

He thinks sliced bread is the greatest thing since Hitler.

With the logic I've seen in his arguments, it's more like "he thinks Hitler is the greatest thing since sliced bread".
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Postby Settrah » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:51 pm

What I want to know is, when do we claim the white planet for the red race?
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Postby Esternial » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:51 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Senkaku wrote:To be fair, it wasn't necessarily an attack, just saying it's evident that IUA is not a scientist.


It was close enough to bring out red text, but not redtext.

Like the difference between boy friend and boyfriend.

Close but not too close.

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Postby The Portland Territory » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:51 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

What even

Please go read about the subject of Martian colonization and terraformation instead of saying whatever floats into your head, if you want to have a serious convo about it I'm happy to.

:blink:

Calm down bud, I didn't pull magnesium out of my ass
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:52 pm

Settrah wrote:What I want to know is, when do we claim the white planet for the red race?

MARS WILL NEVER FALL TO COMMUNIST INVASION.
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New haven america wrote:Yeah, but if the solar panels are in orbit, we'd need a way to consistently getting it. Maybe we could have specific shuttles and stations designed to collect and transfer solar energy?

I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

Hmm? How?

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welp, as one martian said to the other.'

there goes the neighborhood
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Postby The Portland Territory » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:53 pm

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Settrah wrote:What I want to know is, when do we claim the white planet for the red race?

MARS WILL NEVER FALL TO COMMUNIST INVASION.

Not unless the Russian Bear beats us to there
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:53 pm

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New haven america wrote:Well, yes it does have volcanos, but all of them have been extinct for millions of years now.

Well, we could do that, but we don't even know if there's magma on/in Mars, seeing as how it has almost no geologic activity, so that's a bit iffy.

Not true- Mars is less geologically active than Earth, but it's not entirely dead.

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...there's really no indication that there are, since we're not even sure if Mars ever developed any life at all. You don't have to have fossil fuels like the ones we have on Earth to produce greenhouse gases. And I think that this post in general is a bit of an inaccurate oversimplification of what we would have to do to make Mars remotely habitable.

Yeah, I know it's not completely dead, but compared to Earth, it's definitely on life support.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:53 pm

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Settrah wrote:What I want to know is, when do we claim the white planet for the red race?

MARS WILL NEVER FALL TO COMMUNIST INVASION.


So why is it called The Red Planet?
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Ethel mermania wrote:welp, as one martian said to the other.'

there goes the neighborhood

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Postby The Portland Territory » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:54 pm

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The Portland Territory wrote:I also read that magnesium could be a substantial form of energy

Hmm? How?

http://www.universetoday.com/9497/magne ... l-on-mars/

In Houston, the students conducted zero-gravity experiments using iodine as a catalyst to burn magnesium. Magnesium is a metal found on Mars that can be harvested for fuel?fossil fuels don’t burn on Mars because of the planet’s carbon dioxide (CO2) atmosphere, but metals do burn in a CO2 atmosphere.

The idea for the students’ experiments evolved from previous research done by Margaret Wooldridge, an associate professor in mechanical engineering and the team’s adviser. Wooldridge’s research showed that while magnesium is a promising fuel source, burning magnesium alone?without a catalyst such as iodine?has several challenges. Preliminary results from the student experiments showed that using iodine as a catalyst helped make the magnesium burn better, said Arianne Liepa, aerospace engineering undergrad and team member.
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