Charlotte Protests And Riots Thread

[Imperial Union of America]

Call me racist if any of you want to, but I don't see why we should start riots over a single shooting.

It's not over a single shooting it's a over police culture that refuses to budge and a media system that presents every incident it can as being racially motivated.

What does police culture have to do with it? Most of the blacks that have been shot in these incidents the media are exploiting were thugs who tried to beat or kill police officers, with few exceptions.

[Galloism]

It's not over a single shooting it's a over police culture that refuses to budge and a media system that presents every incident it can as being racially motivated.

What does police culture have to do with it? Most of the blacks that have been shot in these incidents the media are exploiting were thugs who tried to beat or kill police officers, with few exceptions.

That's a hell of a claim there. Care to provide sauce?

[Dalviric UIA]

It's not over a single shooting it's a over police culture that refuses to budge and a media system that presents every incident it can as being racially motivated.

What does police culture have to do with it? Most of the blacks that have been shot in these incidents the media are exploiting were thugs who tried to beat or kill police officers, with few exceptions.

Source?

[Des-Bal]

What does police culture have to do with it? Most of the blacks that have been shot in these incidents the media are exploiting were thugs who tried to beat or kill police officers, with few exceptions.

Because we have a police culture that provides an irrational defense of peers that overshadows blms irrational defense of black victims if not in intensity then in organization. On top of that we're seeing increasing militarization and a tendency to use firearms in situations that will not be improved by adding in firearms. Our police force has also developed a way of acting as gas on a fire instead of something that can be relied on to chill things out.

[Imperial Union of America]

What does police culture have to do with it? Most of the blacks that have been shot in these incidents the media are exploiting were thugs who tried to beat or kill police officers, with few exceptions.

Source?

Ferguson Missouri

News story reporting on FBI report

Department of Justice Report on the shooting of Michael Brown, mostly confirming that it was in self-defense.


Tamir Rice

A grand jury investigated the Tamir Rice shooting and decided that no charges were to be filed. The child had a firearm with no orange tip, and pointed it towards police officers.


Dontre Hamilton

Reviewed by the Justice Department, which found no evidence of the Officer's guilt, and the local investigation also found it was in self-defense.

John Crawford had a realistic-looking BB gun and threatened police officers with it. the FBI is also investigating.

I mean, i'm just googling some of these shootings. I can find only a few that are actually questionable from a justification point of view. A good majority seem to have been investigated by the FBI or DOJ who also found no wrongdoing in many of those cases.

[The Romulan Republic]

More violence from the South's fastest growing city. An unconscious reporter was nearly thrown into a nearby fire, while others were assaulted, and a bystander was shot. It's the LA riots all over again isn't it? Glad to see the media continues the dishonest narrative of calling them protests though. What say you NSG?

Source:http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-charlotte-protesters-tried-to-throw-photographer-into-a-fire/

I see the alt Right narrative of treating a few violent people as representative of all protesters (and, thinly veiled, all black people) is continuing.

Condemn the violent. Do not pretend that this represents proof of collective guilt for everyone who disagrees with you or who you don't like.

[Des-Bal]

Ferguson Missouri

News story reporting on FBI report

Department of Justice Report on the shooting of Michael Brown, mostly confirming that it was in self-defense.


Tamir Rice

A grand jury investigated the Tamir Rice shooting and decided that no charges were to be filed. The child had a firearm with no orange tip, and pointed it towards police officers.


Dontre Hamilton

Reviewed by the Justice Department, which found no evidence of the Officer's guilt, and the local investigation also found it was in self-defense.

John Crawford had a realistic-looking BB gun and threatened police officers with it. the FBI is also investigating.

I mean, i'm just googling some of these shootings. I can find only a few that are actually questionable from a justification point of view. A good majority seem to have been investigated by the FBI or DOJ who also found no wrongdoing in many of those cases.

You said that most black shootings the media was exploiting were caused by thugs trying to beat or kill police officers, to prove that claim you provided 4 points of data and 50% of them are people who were just holding toy guns.

[Imperializt Russia]

I don't agree with that whole 'dindu nuffin' thing, but we should definitely deploy the army to deal with thugs who engage in looting, burning and other criminal activities.

That's about as illegal as destructive rioting and looting.

[Imperial Union of America]

Ferguson Missouri

News story reporting on FBI report

Department of Justice Report on the shooting of Michael Brown, mostly confirming that it was in self-defense.


Tamir Rice

A grand jury investigated the Tamir Rice shooting and decided that no charges were to be filed. The child had a firearm with no orange tip, and pointed it towards police officers.


Dontre Hamilton

Reviewed by the Justice Department, which found no evidence of the Officer's guilt, and the local investigation also found it was in self-defense.

John Crawford had a realistic-looking BB gun and threatened police officers with it. the FBI is also investigating.

I mean, i'm just googling some of these shootings. I can find only a few that are actually questionable from a justification point of view. A good majority seem to have been investigated by the FBI or DOJ who also found no wrongdoing in many of those cases.

You said that most black shootings the media was exploiting were caused by thugs trying to beat or kill police officers, to prove that claim you provided 4 points of data and 50% of them are people who were just holding toy guns.

Realistic looking toy guns seems like a good reason to shoot to me. You can't tell if they're real or not. Have you ever compared a BB gun to a real gun? very similar. So just as justified, in my opinion, as shooting a guy with a real gun.

[Vassenor]

To all the people claiming they know what the motivation for these riots is, what is your primary source? Have you asked the people why they're doing it?

[Gauthier]

More violence from the South's fastest growing city. An unconscious reporter was nearly thrown into a nearby fire, while others were assaulted, and a bystander was shot. It's the LA riots all over again isn't it? Glad to see the media continues the dishonest narrative of calling them protests though. What say you NSG?

Source:http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-charlotte-protesters-tried-to-throw-photographer-into-a-fire/

I see the alt Right narrative of treating a few violent people as representative of all protesters (and, thinly veiled, all black people) is continuing.

Condemn the violent. Do not pretend that this represents proof of collective guilt for everyone who disagrees with you or who you don't like.

It's a popular tactic for trying to get The Uppity Negroes to know their place and STFU about police profiling and killing, by associating speaking up about them with rioting.

[Galloism]

You said that most black shootings the media was exploiting were caused by thugs trying to beat or kill police officers, to prove that claim you provided 4 points of data and 50% of them are people who were just holding toy guns.

Realistic looking toy guns seems like a good reason to shoot to me. You can't tell if they're real or not. Have you ever compared a BB gun to a real gun? very similar. So just as justified, in my opinion, as shooting a guy with a real gun.

Funny part is I carry around a real loaded gun all the time, as is my right. Never even get asked about it.

Wonder what the difference is.

[Des-Bal]

Realistic looking toy guns seems like a good reason to shoot to me. You can't tell if they're real or not. Have you ever compared a BB gun to a real gun? very similar. So just as justified, in my opinion, as shooting a guy with a real gun.

You didn't say the shootings were justified. You said "Most of the blacks that have been shot in these incidents the media are exploiting were thugs who tried to beat or kill police officers" and the very limited evidence you prevented directly contradicts your assertion.

To all the people claiming they know what the motivation for these riots is, what is your primary source? Have you asked the people why they're doing it?

That's right, you can't know why something is doing something until you personally talk to them. That's a reasonable standard to hold and not a ridiculous way of discrediting opposing opinions as being out o touch with the situation.

[Des-Bal]

Funny part is I carry around a real loaded gun all the time, as is my right. Never even get asked about it.

Wonder what the difference is.

In your hand of course, because the alternative is you just made a shitty comparison and instead of addressing the factual differences between one situation and another you elevated the importance of race. If we allow ourselves to behave like media outlets society will collapse.

[Galloism]

In related news, police officer facing charges after taking a bullet and accusing an unspecified black man just because the black man in question never existed.

[Galloism]

Funny part is I carry around a real loaded gun all the time, as is my right. Never even get asked about it.

Wonder what the difference is.

In your hand of course, because the alternative is you just made a shitty comparison and instead of addressing the factual differences between one situation and another you elevated the importance of race. If we allow ourselves to behave like media outlets society will collapse.

Black men with guns in holsters or tucked into their waistband are hassled all the time.

Sometimes to death.

[Gauthier]

Funny part is I carry around a real loaded gun all the time, as is my right. Never even get asked about it.

Wonder what the difference is.

In your hand of course, because the alternative is you just made a shitty comparison and instead of addressing the factual differences between one situation and another you elevated the importance of race. If we allow ourselves to behave like media outlets society will collapse.

OK then, how about contrasting the multiple cases of black males with fake weapons or even innocuous objects shot dead by police with say... Douglas K. LeGuin who lured out fire fighters and police with a dumpster fire and shot at them repeatedly, yet a SWAT team arriving on the scene reasoned with him until he was allowed to surrender?

[Des-Bal]

Black men with guns in holsters or tucked into their waistband are hassled all the time.

1. Source, particularly one that illustrates black men carrying guns in holsters are approached about them more often than white men with guns in holsters because the alternative would be analyzing your case against other cases with no clear way of working out unaccounted for variables.
2. Anyone with a gun tucked into their waistband should be hassled.

[Phoenix Storm]

Well, if you kill a man holding a book and you're protected by your colleagues, and not arrested... America, you need justice.

What is your evidence that he was holding a book? I would also like to ask anyone who saw the wife's video what she meant when she said "Keith, don't do it".

[Galloism]

Black men with guns in holsters or tucked into their waistband are hassled all the time.

1. Source, particularly one that illustrates black men carrying guns in holsters are approached about them more often than white men with guns in holsters because the alternative would be analyzing your case against other cases with no clear way of working out unaccounted for variables.
2. Anyone with a gun tucked into their waistband should be hassled.

Well waistband tucking is stupid for practical reasons, but not illegal. Since it's not illegal, it's not the police's business.

Anyway, when was the last time you heard of a white guy with a concealed carry permit get shot for disclosing it?

Like this?

[Des-Bal]

OK then, how about contrasting the multiple cases of black males with fake weapons or even innocuous objects shot dead by police with say... Douglas K. LeGuin who lured out fire fighters and police with a dumpster fire and shot at them repeatedly, yet a SWAT team arriving on the scene reasoned with him until he was allowed to surrender?

I would consider those very disparate situations.

[The Romulan Republic]

I see the alt Right narrative of treating a few violent people as representative of all protesters (and, thinly veiled, all black people) is continuing.

Condemn the violent. Do not pretend that this represents proof of collective guilt for everyone who disagrees with you or who you don't like.

It's a popular tactic for trying to get The Uppity Negroes to know their place and STFU about police profiling and killing, by associating speaking up about them with rioting.

To be fair, they're not the first group to basically brand their opposition terrorists, not by a long shot. Its an old tactic of would-be oppressors of all stripes, and it never gets any less offensive.

Of course, when a lot of the same people will be first in line for apologetics when its a question of violent Right wing protesters, like the Bundy militia.

[Great Kauthar]

okay then

Erm... not to be an asshole (of course, we all know that's not even remotely true, I love being an asshole), but the reporters were gathered in a commercial area in Charlotte where they saw peaceful protests.

Now, were there riots and other forms of vandalism in other areas? Nobody said that. The reporters are reporting on the people they are seeing at the place they are reporting at. In that sense, they are absolutely right, it is a peaceful protest at that place.

This is like the following dialogue:

"Look at these Catholic people, they're so pious!"
"But what about their priest who just raped a 5 year old?"
"Umm... what does the priest raping a 5 year old has to do with what we're gathered to see today?"
"Nothing, but why don't you report on it, corrupt mainstream media?! Why do you only report on the pious people and not their priest?! Why are you so corrupt?! MEDIA CORRUPTION! ILLUMINATI!"

It was just the one clip about them burning a reporter.

Also who the hell is George Soros?

I mean I keep seeing the name being brought up like he's some amalgam of Hitler, Genghis Khan, Ming the Merciless and Skeletor, but no-one's really explained who he is.

Anti-white banker, founder of the Open Society, massive zionist, pro-Mass Immigration to Europe, but not Israel (wonder why)
http://soros.dcleaks.com/
basically he controls western governments, big friend of Hillary.

[Des-Bal]

Well waistband tucking is stupid for practical reasons, but not illegal. Since it's not illegal, it's not the police's business.

Anyway, when was the last time you heard of a white guy with a concealed carry permit get shot for disclosing it?

Like this?

I don't hear much about white people, we treat the unfortunate circumstances they find themselves in as general misfortune. I think it's because we respect their basic humanity in a way simply don't respect black people.

[Gauthier]

OK then, how about contrasting the multiple cases of black males with fake weapons or even innocuous objects shot dead by police with say... Douglas K. LeGuin who lured out fire fighters and police with a dumpster fire and shot at them repeatedly, yet a SWAT team arriving on the scene reasoned with him until he was allowed to surrender?

I would consider those very disparate situations.

Yes, black males shot dead by police on the mere paranoia of violence as opposed to a white Soveteign Citizen actively shooting at fire fighters and police with intent to wound or kill not being gunned down like a zombie but instead calmly talked to until he surrendered.

Very disparate situations indeed, and your apologism amazes.