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Postby Jumhuriyah Hindustan » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:19 am

Taviana SSR wrote:These "riots" are in fact a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. I recognize the right of black people to unite and overthrow imperialist white power and sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed Blacks in USA and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism.

This is a conflict between people who live on less than $2 a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism led by the Obama regime. It is not a race question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 250 years of US-led Western aggression of Africa and black peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by US soldiers in Libya and Somalia or killed by weapons supplied by USA to African warlords?

The idea that the resistance must dance the dance of bourgeois legality is just stupidity. Throughout history there have been many risings of the oppressed people against their masters. The annals ofhistory are full rich in defeated slave rebellions and similar tragedies. In every case one can find that the people were defeated because they did not show sufficient determination and were too soft and trusting, whereas the ruling class is always prepared to employ the most brutal and bloody methods in order to maintain their class rule. Also the US regime has more people in prison per capita than any other country, yet it still thinks it has moral highground. Also dropped as only coutnry nukes on civilians and started wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, killing thousands of innocents. 2.8 million Black people are locked in cages to this day, and the "police" is actively waging an extermination campaign against them, an ethnic cleansing through systematic state violence. They have the right to resist!

While I admire your compassion and empathy to those who were oppressed by American and European powers, burning a reporter alive is not the solution.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:21 am

Taviana SSR wrote:These "riots" are in fact a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. I recognize the right of black people to unite and overthrow imperialist white power and sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed Blacks in USA and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism.

This is a conflict between people who live on less than $2 a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism led by the Obama regime. It is not a race question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 250 years of US-led Western aggression of Africa and black peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by US soldiers in Libya and Somalia or killed by weapons supplied by USA to African warlords?

The idea that the resistance must dance the dance of bourgeois legality is just stupidity. Throughout history there have been many risings of the oppressed people against their masters. The annals ofhistory are full rich in defeated slave rebellions and similar tragedies. In every case one can find that the people were defeated because they did not show sufficient determination and were too soft and trusting, whereas the ruling class is always prepared to employ the most brutal and bloody methods in order to maintain their class rule. Also the US regime has more people in prison per capita than any other country, yet it still thinks it has moral highground. Also dropped as only coutnry nukes on civilians and started wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, killing thousands of innocents. 2.8 million Black people are locked in cages to this day, and the "police" is actively waging an extermination campaign against them, an ethnic cleansing through systematic state violence. They have the right to resist!


These sounds like fucking communist ideas.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:22 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:These "riots" are in fact a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. I recognize the right of black people to unite and overthrow imperialist white power and sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed Blacks in USA and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism.

This is a conflict between people who live on less than $2 a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism led by the Obama regime. It is not a race question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 250 years of US-led Western aggression of Africa and black peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by US soldiers in Libya and Somalia or killed by weapons supplied by USA to African warlords?

The idea that the resistance must dance the dance of bourgeois legality is just stupidity. Throughout history there have been many risings of the oppressed people against their masters. The annals ofhistory are full rich in defeated slave rebellions and similar tragedies. In every case one can find that the people were defeated because they did not show sufficient determination and were too soft and trusting, whereas the ruling class is always prepared to employ the most brutal and bloody methods in order to maintain their class rule. Also the US regime has more people in prison per capita than any other country, yet it still thinks it has moral highground. Also dropped as only coutnry nukes on civilians and started wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, killing thousands of innocents. 2.8 million Black people are locked in cages to this day, and the "police" is actively waging an extermination campaign against them, an ethnic cleansing through systematic state violence. They have the right to resist!


These sounds like fucking communist ideas.


Treating minorities like human beings is communism?
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Postby Jumhuriyah Hindustan » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:23 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:These "riots" are in fact a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. I recognize the right of black people to unite and overthrow imperialist white power and sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed Blacks in USA and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism.

This is a conflict between people who live on less than $2 a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism led by the Obama regime. It is not a race question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 250 years of US-led Western aggression of Africa and black peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by US soldiers in Libya and Somalia or killed by weapons supplied by USA to African warlords?

The idea that the resistance must dance the dance of bourgeois legality is just stupidity. Throughout history there have been many risings of the oppressed people against their masters. The annals ofhistory are full rich in defeated slave rebellions and similar tragedies. In every case one can find that the people were defeated because they did not show sufficient determination and were too soft and trusting, whereas the ruling class is always prepared to employ the most brutal and bloody methods in order to maintain their class rule. Also the US regime has more people in prison per capita than any other country, yet it still thinks it has moral highground. Also dropped as only coutnry nukes on civilians and started wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, killing thousands of innocents. 2.8 million Black people are locked in cages to this day, and the "police" is actively waging an extermination campaign against them, an ethnic cleansing through systematic state violence. They have the right to resist!


These sounds like fucking communist ideas.

The alt-right Nazi strikes again!

What's wrong with communism?
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Postby Taviana SSR » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:37 am

Blacks are being killed because the U.S. is a colonial empire and African people were and are colonized by capitalism. And they do the same things to Africans in the USA that they do the people in Afghanistan and Iraq and other places where people are colonized. What the "rioters" are sadly missing is revolutionary ideology to help them to understand how to translate that resistance into struggle to overthrow the USA oppression and to regain their freedom as a people. Down with the Obama regime and their Republican allies!
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:39 am

Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
These sounds like fucking communist ideas.

The alt-right Nazi strikes again!

What's wrong with communism?


It is a joint project by the International finances and the bolsheviks to rule the world. Communists are like Fascists and Nazis in tactics but liberal in implementation. Communism is a plague of slavery and death.

Communism helps the international financiers Co trolling the economy and communist ideology corrupts with their racial thinking.

Not to mention their fierce resistance to our movement in the 20s and 30s. Or when they burned down the Reich stag. Or helped the international financiers create the idea of some sort of genocidal conspiracy involving the Fuehrer which mysteriously has no direct evidence of his involvement. Also curious how all the largest purported camps were in soviet held territory.

Then of course there were the savage communist war crimes and rape of women by the bolsheviks hordes.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:41 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:The alt-right Nazi strikes again!

What's wrong with communism?


It is a joint project by the International finances and the bolsheviks to rule the world. Communists are like Fascists and Nazis in tactics but liberal in implementation. Communism is a plague of slavery and death.

Communism helps the international financiers Co trolling the economy and communist ideology corrupts with their racial thinking.

Not to mention their fierce resistance to our movement in the 20s and 30s. Or when they burned down the Reich stag. Or helped the international financiers create the idea of some sort of genocidal conspiracy involving the Fuehrer which mysteriously has no direct evidence of his involvement. Also curious how all the largest purported camps were in soviet held territory.

Then of course there were the savage communist war crimes and rape of women by the bolsheviks hordes.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:41 am

Communism was designed exactly for communes. Don't even try to implement it on a bigger scale than that.

Anyways, back on topic.
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:54 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
It is a joint project by the International finances and the bolsheviks to rule the world. Communists are like Fascists and Nazis in tactics but liberal in implementation. Communism is a plague of slavery and death.

Communism helps the international financiers Co trolling the economy and communist ideology corrupts with their racial thinking.

Not to mention their fierce resistance to our movement in the 20s and 30s. Or when they burned down the Reich stag. Or helped the international financiers create the idea of some sort of genocidal conspiracy involving the Fuehrer which mysteriously has no direct evidence of his involvement. Also curious how all the largest purported camps were in soviet held territory.

Then of course there were the savage communist war crimes and rape of women by the bolsheviks hordes.

Oh fuck it was the Jews all along

You know, I took a wild guess at who exactly you were responding to. I was right. They've got to either be 12 or trolling, right?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:03 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:The alt-right Nazi strikes again!

What's wrong with communism?


It is a joint project by the International finances and the bolsheviks to rule the world. Communists are like Fascists and Nazis in tactics but liberal in implementation. Communism is a plague of slavery and death.

Communism helps the international financiers Co trolling the economy and communist ideology corrupts with their racial thinking.

Not to mention their fierce resistance to our movement in the 20s and 30s. Or when they burned down the Reich stag. Or helped the international financiers create the idea of some sort of genocidal conspiracy involving the Fuehrer which mysteriously has no direct evidence of his involvement. Also curious how all the largest purported camps were in soviet held territory.

Then of course there were the savage communist war crimes and rape of women by the bolsheviks hordes.


Pretty sure the Nazis burned down the Reichstag then blamed the communists to solidify their position.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:25 am

Herador wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Oh fuck it was the Jews all along

You know, I took a wild guess at who exactly you were responding to. I was right. They've got to either be 12 or trolling, right?


Don't do that. Informal warning for trollnaming. Let's focus more on the topic at hand, and not so much on speculation regarding our fellow posters.

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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:48 am

Someone made an album of the protests, whoever the photographer was, they were on the streets with the march. It's good stuff, a new and hopeful look at what's going on.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:03 am

Arumbia67 wrote:More violence from the South's fastest growing city. An unconscious reporter was nearly thrown into a nearby fire, while others were assaulted, and a bystander was shot. It's the LA riots all over again isn't it? Glad to see the media continues the dishonest narrative of calling them protests though. What say you NSG?

Source:http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-charlotte-protesters-tried-to-throw-photographer-into-a-fire/


well that's a bad thing.

this is why officials try to stop rioting--it is out of control behavior that results in a variety of bad things happening.

its not a matter of the quality of people who are protesting or of the level of righteous anger but of crowd psychology when rioting starts.
whatever

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Postby Esternial » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:14 am

Protests are always a mixture of people. Often the majority of them have no direct intention of using violence.

Can't avoid getting a bunch of instigators and punks that make shit go south.

I mean, in Ukraine the Berkut even hired people to make peaceful protests turn into riots so the cops could justify their use of (lethal) force.
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Postby Sjovenia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:22 am

Balkenreich wrote:Peaceful protesters guise.


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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:04 am

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
These sounds like fucking communist ideas.


Treating minorities like human beings is communism?


Show us where in the US live on less than 2 dollars a day. Show us where oBama is the great capitalist oppressor. So yes the entire concept of that post was the required communist uprising for the people's true freedom. Aka. A big steaming pile of crap. Glad to know you support.
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Postby Tekeristan » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:15 am

Taviana SSR wrote:Blacks are being killed because the U.S. is a colonial empire and African people were and are colonized by capitalism. And they do the same things to Africans in the USA that they do the people in Afghanistan and Iraq and other places where people are colonized. What the "rioters" are sadly missing is revolutionary ideology to help them to understand how to translate that resistance into struggle to overthrow the USA oppression and to regain their freedom as a people. Down with the Obama regime and their Republican allies!

Okay Mr, calm down there.

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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:20 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Taviana SSR wrote:Blacks are being killed because the U.S. is a colonial empire and African people were and are colonized by capitalism. And they do the same things to Africans in the USA that they do the people in Afghanistan and Iraq and other places where people are colonized. What the "rioters" are sadly missing is revolutionary ideology to help them to understand how to translate that resistance into struggle to overthrow the USA oppression and to regain their freedom as a people. Down with the Obama regime and their Republican allies!

Okay Mr, calm down there.

Can it really be called a Regime when it's going to for sure be over in a few months?
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Postby Tekeristan » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:28 am

Herador wrote:
Tekeristan wrote:Okay Mr, calm down there.

Can it really be called a Regime when it's going to for sure be over in a few months?

Care to clarify?


Somewhere, Martin Luther King Jr. is rolling in his grave.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:33 am

Arumbia67 wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:Peaceful protesters guise.

The level of people's delusions is awe inspiring. One of my professors claimed the violence was okay, because white people spit on them. No I'm not kidding.


Uh yea, professors only need to be qualified to teach, not necessarily have intelligent opinions.

I disagree with your professor, by the way.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:33 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Herador wrote:Can it really be called a Regime when it's going to for sure be over in a few months?

Care to clarify?


Somewhere, Martin Luther King Jr. is rolling in his grave.


1. Obama will be out of office in january, so his regime really isn't all that

2. Mlk, was quite the conservative. His whole strategy was peacefull protest in the face of violence, to show the evil of that violence, and not give his opponents the oppertunity to take the high road.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:35 am

Taviana SSR wrote:These "riots" are in fact a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. I recognize the right of black people to unite and overthrow imperialist white power and sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed Blacks in USA and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism.

This is a conflict between people who live on less than $2 a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism led by the Obama regime. It is not a race question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 250 years of US-led Western aggression of Africa and black peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by US soldiers in Libya and Somalia or killed by weapons supplied by USA to African warlords?

The idea that the resistance must dance the dance of bourgeois legality is just stupidity. Throughout history there have been many risings of the oppressed people against their masters. The annals ofhistory are full rich in defeated slave rebellions and similar tragedies. In every case one can find that the people were defeated because they did not show sufficient determination and were too soft and trusting, whereas the ruling class is always prepared to employ the most brutal and bloody methods in order to maintain their class rule. Also the US regime has more people in prison per capita than any other country, yet it still thinks it has moral highground. Also dropped as only coutnry nukes on civilians and started wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, killing thousands of innocents. 2.8 million Black people are locked in cages to this day, and the "police" is actively waging an extermination campaign against them, an ethnic cleansing through systematic state violence. They have the right to resist!


You think people are doing this because of capital?!

Jesus are you wrong.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:36 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
These sounds like fucking communist ideas.


They miss the entire point of the protest, too.

In the context of the protest, his argument boils down to deflection.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:47 am

Is there any evidence that the claimed incident ("trying to burn someone alive") actually occurred? Or if there was "merely" an assault, which was backed up by a second tweet?

Because all we have is a twitter image of a fire and 140 characters of claims, and no unconscious journo that I saw in that picture.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:50 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:The alt-right Nazi strikes again!

What's wrong with communism?


It is a joint project by the International finances and the bolsheviks to rule the world. Communists are like Fascists and Nazis in tactics but liberal in implementation. Communism is a plague of slavery and death.

Communism helps the international financiers Co trolling the economy and communist ideology corrupts with their racial thinking.

Not to mention their fierce resistance to our movement in the 20s and 30s. Or when they burned down the Reich stag. Or helped the international financiers create the idea of some sort of genocidal conspiracy involving the Fuehrer which mysteriously has no direct evidence of his involvement. Also curious how all the largest purported camps were in soviet held territory.

Then of course there were the savage communist war crimes and rape of women by the bolsheviks hordes.

...
The largest purported camps were in former Poland, because where else were they going to be? France?

It's still a matter of debate whether van der Lube(sp) actually burned down the Reichstag (and if he did, that's not "when the communists burned down the Reichstag", der Lube was mentally unstable), or whether he was directed to by Nazis.
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