Charlotte Protests And Riots Thread

[Novorobo]

You know, I hate to be that guy, but if the cops would stop shooting unarmed people, we might not have this problem in the first place.

Key word "might." What the hell did the reporter have to do with what they were rioting about? If who they target for violence doesn't follow logic, who else could have been targeted?

[Vassenor]

So are people still not bothering to read past the first post and find that the incident with the reporter was fabricated by a right wing source?

[Gauthier]

So are people still not bothering to read past the first post and find that the incident with the reporter was fabricated by a right wing source?

Confirmation bias that one can use to tell BLM and black people in general to STFU is best bias.

[Des-Bal]

They are very different situations. The situation that actually involves a violent encounter or a reasonable threat of one seems to be resolved relatively peacefully, in certain high-profile incidents featuring white gunmen. Usually of a far-right libertarian persuasion.

In certain high-profile incidents feature black men either armed and unthreatening, unarmed, or holding toy weapons, and not in any form of violent confrontation, the resolution is deadly.

Yep. One situation where BLACK DARK SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN are involved in confrontations that could be misinterpreted as requiring immediate action. And another where LIGHT SKINNED WHITE PRIVILEGED EUROPEAN DESCENDED PERSONS are involved in violent altercations that responding officers can't handle themselves.

[Galloism]

They are very different situations. The situation that actually involves a violent encounter or a reasonable threat of one seems to be resolved relatively peacefully, in certain high-profile incidents featuring white gunmen. Usually of a far-right libertarian persuasion.

In certain high-profile incidents feature black men either armed and unthreatening, unarmed, or holding toy weapons, and not in any form of violent confrontation, the resolution is deadly.

Yep. One situation where BLACK DARK SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN are involved in confrontations that could be misinterpreted as requiring immediate action. And another where LIGHT SKINNED WHITE PRIVILEGED EUROPEAN DESCENDED PERSONS are involved in violent altercations that responding officers can't handle themselves.

Perhaps if they see a black man with a gun they think might be hazardous, instead of opening fire like they're cowboy jim, they should back off, set up a perimeter, and call a SWAT team. You know, like they do with white gunmen.

Of course, I think a fair portion of the time they'll find out the SWAT team is completely superfluous, but at least we won't wind up with a black person holding a toy gun in Wal-Mart looking at other products gunned down like a zombie.

[PaNTuXIa]

Peaceful protesters guise.

The level of people's delusions is awe inspiring. One of my professors claimed the violence was okay, because white people spit on them. No I'm not kidding.

shut up you PRIVILEGED FUCK.

/s

[PaNTuXIa]

So are people still not bothering to read past the first post and find that the incident with the reporter was fabricated by a right wing source?

[citation needed]

[Jamzmania]

Yep. One situation where BLACK DARK SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN are involved in confrontations that could be misinterpreted as requiring immediate action. And another where LIGHT SKINNED WHITE PRIVILEGED EUROPEAN DESCENDED PERSONS are involved in violent altercations that responding officers can't handle themselves.

Perhaps if they see a black man with a gun they think might be hazardous, instead of opening fire like they're cowboy jim, they should back off, set up a perimeter, and call a SWAT team. You know, like they do with white gunmen.

Of course, I think a fair portion of the time they'll find out the SWAT team is completely superfluous, but at least we won't wind up with a black person holding a toy gun in Wal-Mart looking at other products gunned down like a zombie.

Whites are shot by police more than blacks.

[Des-Bal]

Perhaps if they see a black man with a gun they think might be hazardous, instead of opening fire like they're cowboy jim, they should back off, set up a perimeter, and call a SWAT team. You know, like they do with white gunmen.

Of course, I think a fair portion of the time they'll find out the SWAT team is completely superfluous, but at least we won't wind up with a black person holding a toy gun in Wal-Mart looking at other products gunned down like a zombie.

If he had been shooting that's probably what they would have done. They confronted someone, feared he was raising a weapon and fired. That is vastly different than being ambushed by someone with an AK-47.

[Gauthier]

Perhaps if they see a black man with a gun they think might be hazardous, instead of opening fire like they're cowboy jim, they should back off, set up a perimeter, and call a SWAT team. You know, like they do with white gunmen.

Of course, I think a fair portion of the time they'll find out the SWAT team is completely superfluous, but at least we won't wind up with a black person holding a toy gun in Wal-Mart looking at other products gunned down like a zombie.

If he had been shooting that's probably what they would have done. They confronted someone, feared he was raising a weapon and fired. That is vastly different than being ambushed by someone with an AK-47.

So black men should ambush police with gunfire so they can be reasoned with rather than being gunned down like a zombie.

[Des-Bal]

So black men should ambush police with gunfire so they can be reasoned with rather than being gunned down like a zombie.

Yep.

[Imperializt Russia]

So are people still not bothering to read past the first post and find that the incident with the reporter was fabricated by a right wing source?

[citation needed]

Russel's Teapot. Nothing has corroborated the original story that I've seen, except for 6 frames of footage purported to be "trying to throw a woman onto a fire".

Given the footage is of about four people about four feet from a fire, their "trying" was pretty shit, evidently - that, or more people in the crowd stopped them.
Or of course, that it's not what even happened.

[TomKirk]

You know, I hate to be that guy, but if the cops would stop shooting unarmed people, we might not have this problem in the first place.

While oppression of blacks by police does probably happen in certain cities, holding all police responsible for the actions of a few is not good.

But it's not just a "few" if you include those who, while not necessarily committing acts of assault, theft, or murder themselves, are willing to cover up for their fellow cops who do.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Considering that the event alluded to in the topic title has not been confirmed or supported by any other source, and considering the inflammatory nature of said title (no pun intended), I have taken the liberty of changing the title to something less likely to inspire flames (again, no pun intended).

[The 502nd Ghost Division]

Yep. One situation where BLACK DARK SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN are involved in confrontations that could be misinterpreted as requiring immediate action. And another where LIGHT SKINNED WHITE PRIVILEGED EUROPEAN DESCENDED PERSONS are involved in violent altercations that responding officers can't handle themselves.

Perhaps if they see a black man with a gun they think might be hazardous, instead of opening fire like they're cowboy jim, they should back off, set up a perimeter, and call a SWAT team. You know, like they do with white gunmen.

Of course, I think a fair portion of the time they'll find out the SWAT team is completely superfluous, but at least we won't wind up with a black person holding a toy gun in Wal-Mart looking at other products gunned down like a zombie.

I'm pretty sure the Walmart incident happened because some anti gun nut called the police and said that there was a gunman.

[The Lone Alliance]

Or I'm asking "Why do armed white men who actually shoot at civil authorities get significantly more leeway from police than even unarmed black men do?"

The two situations were drastically different though.

Once the SWAT team had been called in the guy had been contained, he couldn't leave his location without eating lead from all directions, however if they had gone in after him they would have been the ones to risk eating lead.

So instead you're saying the cops should have put their lives at risk in trying to kill him because of racial fairness or something?

[Gauthier]

Or I'm asking "Why do armed white men who actually shoot at civil authorities get significantly more leeway from police than even unarmed black men do?"

The two situations were drastically different though.

Once the SWAT team had been called in the guy had been contained, he couldn't leave his location without eating lead from all directions, however if they had gone in after him they would have been the ones to risk eating lead.

So instead you're saying the cops should have put their lives at risk in trying to kill him because of racial fairness or something?

Or you know, try to talk down black men rather than commanding them and gunning them down like zombies when they don't comply in 2 seconds, in fairness. Then again as Micah Johnson proved black men only get that luxury when the regular police are scrambling for cover and the SWAT team is called in.

[Galloism]

Perhaps if they see a black man with a gun they think might be hazardous, instead of opening fire like they're cowboy jim, they should back off, set up a perimeter, and call a SWAT team. You know, like they do with white gunmen.

Of course, I think a fair portion of the time they'll find out the SWAT team is completely superfluous, but at least we won't wind up with a black person holding a toy gun in Wal-Mart looking at other products gunned down like a zombie.

Whites are shot by police more than blacks.

Not relative to population size - relative to population size, black people are shot at a much higher rate than whites - particularly black men.

And honestly, absolute numbers do not matter when we're comparing disparate populations. Per capita numbers are all that matters.

[Crockerland]

Whites are shot by police more than blacks.

Not relative to population size - relative to population size, black people are shot at a much higher rate than whites - particularly black men.

I found this to be a very interesting read on the subject.

[Galloism]

Not relative to population size - relative to population size, black people are shot at a much higher rate than whites - particularly black men.

I found this to be a very interesting read on the subject.

I've read things like that, but it's based on crime data and makes certain presumptions - that crimes reported against whites and blacks are reported with no deviation as to race of the perpetrator. This is an interesting presumption, but ultimately untestable, and when you compare it to things like Marijuana usage and arrest rates by race (handy series of charts here), it becomes a very suspect assumption. Other than black people get away with crime a lot more than black people do.

There's a presumption of guilt with black people a lot of the time, and as a result, when you're looking for something, you find it.

[Jamzmania]

Whites are shot by police more than blacks.

Not relative to population size - relative to population size, black people are shot at a much higher rate than whites - particularly black men.

And honestly, absolute numbers do not matter when we're comparing disparate populations. Per capita numbers are all that matters.

Blacks also commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than whites. Why is it so surprising, then, that they are involved in more altercations with police that end in lethal force being used?

[Galloism]

Not relative to population size - relative to population size, black people are shot at a much higher rate than whites - particularly black men.

And honestly, absolute numbers do not matter when we're comparing disparate populations. Per capita numbers are all that matters.

Blacks also commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than whites.

Maybe - keep in mind we also know that black people are targeted and arrested at much higher rates than whites for crimes that we know are NOT disparately committed, such as smoking weed (evidence previously posted).

With data like that that shows disparate targeting of black people for such crimes, we have the question whether or not they are ALSO disparately targeted for other crimes.

Hence my categorization of "maybe".

Why is it so surprising, then, that they are involved in more altercations with police that end in lethal force being used?

Given we what we know about black people being disparately targeted by police, we shouldn't. The question is why are they disparately targeted.

[Jamzmania]

Blacks also commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than whites.

Maybe - keep in mind we also know that black people are targeted and arrested at much higher rates than whites for crimes that we know are NOT disparately committed, such as smoking weed (evidence previously posted).

With data like that that shows disparate targeting of black people for such crimes, we have the question whether or not they are ALSO disparately targeted for other crimes.

Hence my categorization of "maybe".

Why is it so surprising, then, that they are involved in more altercations with police that end in lethal force being used?

Given we what we know about black people being disparately targeted by police, we shouldn't. The question is why are they disparately targeted.

Blacks happen to be targeted by police more often for certain drug crimes because blacks have a tendency to be more open about their drug dealing than whites. They deal on the street corners. They deal to strangers. It's a lot easier to catch someone dealing in this manner.

[Imperializt Russia]

Gallo specifically mentioned drug use, not drug dealing.

[Jamzmania]

Gallo specifically mentioned drug use, not drug dealing.

Drug use and drug dealing very often go together.