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Postby Eol Sha » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:52 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:This is why we can't let refugees into our country. Potentially bringing terrorists with the. Infact, I think we should just ban Islam and deport it.

Yes. Let's just ignore the fact that refugees haven't committed terroristic acts in the US.
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Postby Othelos » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:52 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:This is why we can't let refugees into our country. Potentially bringing terrorists with the. Infact, I think we should just ban Islam and deport it.

Or we should realize that our vetting process keeps people who would do us harm out.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:52 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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lmao

How the fuck do you deport a religion? It's not a physical thing :lol2:


Simple. Deport the followers.

You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:54 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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lmao

How the fuck do you deport a religion? It's not a physical thing :lol2:


Simple. Deport the followers.

Yes, let us deport thousands of people who were born in America because a few people are dicks
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Postby Italios » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:54 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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lmao

How the fuck do you deport a religion? It's not a physical thing :lol2:


Simple. Deport the followers.

Doesn't that violate the first amendment? That's essentially disallowing the practice of a religion in the US.
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:55 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Simple. Deport the followers.

Yes, let us deport thousands of people who were born in America because a few people are dicks

That seems like a splendid way to help fight the radicalization of Muslims.

Italios wrote:Doesn't that violate the first amendment? That's essentially disallowing the practice of a religion in the US.

I'm sure it violates more than one.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:55 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Simple. Deport the followers.

You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.


It's not impossible. You put them in a helicopter, take them out to sea and ask then where they'd like to go.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:56 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:You're still more likely to die from bees, lightning, your own doctor, and even your own furniture than a terrorist.

K. So terrorism is not something that we should try to find a solution to? There are ways of solving it. There are not ways of solving forces of nature.

Make no mistake, there should still be a solution, but not one that involves controlling or policing Muslim communities, a ban, or deporting them. I also think terrorism is an exaggerated threat, because more people die from their own furniture than a terrorist. However, the former is tallied every year while the latter is only after 9/11.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:57 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Geilinor wrote:You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.


It's not impossible. You put them in a helicopter, take them out to sea and ask then where they'd like to go.

They would probably say the country they were born in, like say, America
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:58 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
It's not impossible. You put them in a helicopter, take them out to sea and ask then where they'd like to go.

They would probably say the country they were born in, like say, America

At that point, I think they'd be begging to just be on the ground again. The first thing I'd think when someone forced me into a helicopter that stopped over the ocean is "Oh fuck, I'm going to die."
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:59 pm

Herador wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:They would probably say the country they were born in, like say, America

At that point, I think they'd be begging to just be on the ground again. The first thing I'd think when someone forced me into a helicopter that stopped over the ocean is "Oh fuck, I'm going to die."

Good point. Frankly, the whole situation of being rounded up like Jews on Kristalnacht would be terrifying.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:59 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Geilinor wrote:You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.


It's not impossible. You put them in a helicopter, take them out to sea and ask then where they'd like to go.

So… why would you want to deport millions of Muslims just because of one person who committed violence?
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Postby Italios » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:59 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Geilinor wrote:You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.


It's not impossible. You put them in a helicopter, take them out to sea and ask then where they'd like to go.

You realise there are 3.3 million Muslims in the US alone, many of which are natural-born citizens, not refugees, as well as law-abiding citizens, which gives you no right to deport them, and that it would take ages for that oversimplified method to work?
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:00 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Herador wrote:At that point, I think they'd be begging to just be on the ground again. The first thing I'd think when someone forced me into a helicopter that stopped over the ocean is "Oh fuck, I'm going to die."

Good point. Frankly, the whole situation of being rounded up like Jews on Kristalnacht would be terrifying.

But remember everyone, we're the good guys!

Italios wrote:You realise there are 3.3 million Muslims in the US alone, many of which are natural-born citizens, not refugees, as well as law-abiding citizens, which gives you no right to deport them, and that it would take ages for that oversimplified method to work?

Oh please, quit complicating this with irrelevant shit like the law.
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Postby Eol Sha » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:00 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Simple. Deport the followers.

You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.

Who needs the Constitution when you have fear and prejudice?
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Postby Isyrannaea » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:02 pm

Please ignore my old posts.

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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:03 pm

Isyrannaea wrote:Hmm.

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Got a reputable source for this?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 15336.html

However it's already been discredited by the police.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/late ... r-42173130

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A law enforcement official says federal investigators have discounted a claim of responsibility for the New York City bombing on the social blogging service Tumblr.

The official says investigators looked into it and don't consider it relevant to the case. The official was not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity

Earlier in the day, another official said that the FBI was aware of the posting and evaluating its authenticity.

The Saturday night blast in Manhattan injured 29 people. Authorities have not yet determined who is behind the blast or a motive. Gov. Andrew Cuomo said it didn't appear to be linked to international terrorism.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:03 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Geilinor wrote:You can't deport citizens, that's impossible.

Who needs the Constitution when you have fear and prejudice?

Why is fear and prejudice undermining some of our values?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:04 pm

Isyrannaea wrote:Hmm.

Well if that's real I guess as a transwoman, I'm clearly guilty and need to start packing my backs
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:05 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:Hmm.

Well if that's real I guess as a transwoman, I'm clearly guilty and need to start packing my backs

I mean, it's not, so I guess your back can stay where it is. Against a chair, I'm guessing?
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Postby Isyrannaea » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:05 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:Hmm.

Well if that's real I guess as a transwoman, I'm clearly guilty and need to start packing my backs

No. I was just saw it. Don't think it's real tbh.
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Postby Eol Sha » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:05 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Who needs the Constitution when you have fear and prejudice?

Why is fear and prejudice undermining some of our values?

Well, deporting people because of their religion and banning said religion violates the First Amendment... :unsure:
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:05 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
lmao

How the fuck do you deport a religion? It's not a physical thing :lol2:


Simple. Deport the followers.


Where exactly? Like, you can't just kick citizens out.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:06 pm

Herador wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Well if that's real I guess as a transwoman, I'm clearly guilty and need to start packing my backs

I mean, it's not, so I guess your back can stay where it is. Against a chair, I'm guessing?

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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:07 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Herador wrote:I mean, it's not, so I guess your back can stay where it is. Against a chair, I'm guessing?

dontmakeasexjoke dontmakeasexjoke dontmakeasexjoke

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