Fat shaming and thin privilage

[Hoppetopia]

A wild voice of reason appears. Beauty standards are objectively unobtainable for the vast majority of population, especially women.

They aren't. Eat less, exercise more, take care of your hygiene, dress well, and don't openly act like a complete bitch. Do that, and you'll be attractive, unless you're one of the 0,1% of the population that has REALLY shitty genetics. I'm thinking of pathological cases here, not people who are just obese.

[The Rebel Alliances]

I am thin, damn sure not healthy though. And I do not even smoke...or drink. I should really work on my cardio.

Otherwise I am fairly sure that obesity is proven to be dangerous to one's health. No one should be shamed for being overweight, but I do not believe we should treat it as medically normal. As long as we do not assume being thin is auto healthy either. Because I can honestly not run worth a damn.

[United Marxist Nations]

Obesity is a health hazard. Of course we should promote better health in society by promoting healthier diets and exercise. There is a degree of laziness and lack of self-control in being obese.

[Gyrenaica]

Being fat is part of dietary choices, not your genetics.

[Lamadia III]

The only privilege the thin have (in the majority of cases,) is that they aren't lazy and stupid enough to get fat.
The obese need to get off their backsides, walk away from the fridge, and go on a jog. Get some fruit instead of a Mars Bar. Stop blaming 'your genetic makeup' or 'the price of an apple' and go for a jog.

[Sareva]

In accordance.

If you're fat, you're fat, lose weight and exercise while eating healthy foods. Stop whining.

[Raventsvo]

There's literally no excuse for being obese (for most people)
Stop eating crap and you won't be fat. It's not difficult.

This is coming from someone that was 300lbs 5 years ago.

[Sareva]

The only privilege the thin have (in the majority of cases,) is that they aren't lazy and stupid enough to get fat.
The obese need to get off their backsides, walk away from the fridge, and go on a jog. Get some fruit instead of a Mars Bar. Stop blaming 'your genetic makeup' or 'the price of an apple' and go for a jog.

To be honest, fruit is delicious and is just one solution to a dietary issue. I love a good burger, but a good salad is just as tasty. Vegetables and fruit are just as good as quality, well-cooked meat.

I personally think pineapple is best fruit.

[New Axiom]

The only privilege the thin have (in the majority of cases,) is that they aren't lazy and stupid enough to get fat.
The obese need to get off their backsides, walk away from the fridge, and go on a jog. Get some fruit instead of a Mars Bar. Stop blaming 'your genetic makeup' or 'the price of an apple' and go for a jog.

To be honest, fruit is delicious and is just one solution to a dietary issue. I love a good burger, but a good salad is just as tasty. Vegetables and fruit are just as good as quality, well-cooked meat.

I personally think pineapple is best fruit.

Strawberries.

See, I like a good burger too, and I absolutely hate salad. And I'm that dude who puts equal amounts of meat and produce on my sandwich at the local Subway.

If you wanna get serious on diet, I recommend V8 veggie juice. It tastes better than a salad and probably has more healthy stuff.

[Napkiraly]

The only privilege the thin have (in the majority of cases,) is that they aren't lazy and stupid enough to get fat.
The obese need to get off their backsides, walk away from the fridge, and go on a jog. Get some fruit instead of a Mars Bar. Stop blaming 'your genetic makeup' or 'the price of an apple' and go for a jog.

To be honest, fruit is delicious and is just one solution to a dietary issue. I love a good burger, but a good salad is just as tasty. Vegetables and fruit are just as good as quality, well-cooked meat.

I personally think pineapple is best fruit.

Blueberries pls

[Hoppetopia]

HAHAHAHA mises.org seriously? Talk about bias.

Nice ad hominem. Why not address their actual points? They openly shared their reasoning. They presented it on a silver plate for you to attack. Instead of doing so, you react with ridicule.

And actually, no, I was referring to Bloomberg's rating.

That rating seems to be shit. The only health-related factor it addresses is life expectancy, and that is influenced by other factors besides healthcare, primarily lifestyle, but also rate of violent crime and the infrastructure (less car accidents = less people dead from car accidents). The study you mentioned doesn't even address these intervening variables. That alone makes it worthless.

Maybe you would want to claim that Bloomberg is a commie-ridden institution now.

Nah, I think I'm gonna leave the ad hominems to you.

Go on, we can always use a good laughter.

You're the only one laughing, friendo.

[Sareva]

To be honest, fruit is delicious and is just one solution to a dietary issue. I love a good burger, but a good salad is just as tasty. Vegetables and fruit are just as good as quality, well-cooked meat.

I personally think pineapple is best fruit.

Strawberries.

See, I like a good burger too, and I absolutely hate salad. And I'm that dude who puts equal amounts of meat and produce on my sandwich at the local Subway.

If you wanna get serious on diet, I recommend V8 veggie juice. It tastes better than a salad and probably has more healthy stuff.

Brah.

I put chicken in my caesar. I'm a human, which means as a human, I am an omnivore, which requires my body to eat both plants and meat so that I can properly develop. Vegans don't understand that one. Strawberries are good too.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Strawberries.

See, I like a good burger too, and I absolutely hate salad. And I'm that dude who puts equal amounts of meat and produce on my sandwich at the local Subway.

If you wanna get serious on diet, I recommend V8 veggie juice. It tastes better than a salad and probably has more healthy stuff.

Brah.

I put chicken in my caesar. I'm a human, which means as a human, I am an omnivore, which requires my body to eat both plants and meat so that I can properly develop. Vegans don't understand that one. Strawberries are good too.

Plz don't make this a vegan wars thread.

[Hoppetopia]

The obese need to get off their backsides, walk away from the fridge, and go on a jog.

I can't, I'm bulking.

[New Axiom]

Strawberries.

See, I like a good burger too, and I absolutely hate salad. And I'm that dude who puts equal amounts of meat and produce on my sandwich at the local Subway.

If you wanna get serious on diet, I recommend V8 veggie juice. It tastes better than a salad and probably has more healthy stuff.

Brah.

I put chicken in my caesar. I'm a human, which means as a human, I am an omnivore, which requires my body to eat both plants and meat so that I can properly develop. Vegans don't understand that one. Strawberries are good too.

Yeah, okay, Caesar salad isn't terrible. Neither is Chef Salad. But if-big if-I eat salad, I need three things: bacon bits, ranch, and cheese.

[Herulija]

Life was so much simpler before everyone got convinced that you need to go to university and pay them vast amounts to become a bigger pansy.

All of these “shaming” problems over every little thing just goes to show you how pathetic people have really become. I am frankly amazed that anyone nowadays managed to survive the school playground where teasing, bumps and bruises were a rite of passage instead of a felony. No one has a right to not be offended, and bubble-wrapping yourself with legislation and safe havens only make it worse. You will be judged by others in one way or another until the day you die, and some of the more infamous people will be judged long after that. Get used to it.

Fat-shaming? “You guys, I know I'm hefty, but you need to accept me for who I am.”

Bullshit- run your chubby ass around the block a couple of times a day. You'll feel better in the long term and maybe even regain a little of that self-esteem you keep whining about everyone stealing from you. If you consciously identified your problem, you have the ability to find a way to fix it. Face it- modern society is superficial, but imposing your will on those who point out that you look like a half-chewed milk-dud isn't going to solve the problem at hand either. This may come as a shock to some, but you actually have to stand on your own and work towards your own betterment. Get the smelling salts, I heard a couple of people faint in the background.

One of the biggest problems I see in society today is a complete lack of motivation and self-discipline. Where there's a will, there's a way-- the problem is everyone expecting someone else to do it for them, or appealing to a higher authority to insulate them from the harsh reality of life.

Back when I went to boot camp, we had a borderline pork-chop in my platoon who barely made the cut to be enlisted, and he tried using excuses similar to things I have heard here. After a boot in his ass, a proper diet and some self-motivation, he lost 142 lbs. in 3 months (a lead-series record at the time) and was commended for his dedication. It was a damn hard road for him, but he hardened up and made himself do it. I had respect for him- no matter what, he wouldn't quit. Know where he is now? After his discharge, he wanted to help others do the same, and now owns a fitness center.

He is but one example. If he could do it, it stands to reason others can too. Do you really want it, or are you more comfortable sitting around bitching about it?

Fat-shaming? Sorry, I ran out of pity a long time ago.

[Uxupox]

The obese need to get off their backsides, walk away from the fridge, and go on a jog.

I can't, I'm bulking.

No dirty bulking please.

[New Axiom]

Life was so much simpler before everyone got convinced that you need to go to university and pay them vast amounts to become a bigger pansy.

All of these “shaming” problems over every little thing just goes to show you how pathetic people have really become. I am frankly amazed that anyone nowadays managed to survive the school playground where teasing, bumps and bruises were a rite of passage instead of a felony. No one has a right to not be offended, and bubble-wrapping yourself with legislation and safe havens only make it worse. You will be judged by others in one way or another until the day you die, and some of the more infamous people will be judged long after that. Get used to it.

Fat-shaming? “You guys, I know I'm hefty, but you need to accept me for who I am.”

Bullshit- run your chubby ass around the block a couple of times a day. You'll feel better in the long term and maybe even regain a little of that self-esteem you keep whining about everyone stealing from you. If you consciously identified your problem, you have the ability to find a way to fix it. Face it- modern society is superficial, but imposing your will on those who point out that you look like a half-chewed milk-dud isn't going to solve the problem at hand either. This may come as a shock to some, but you actually have to stand on your own and work towards your own betterment. Get the smelling salts, I heard a couple of people faint in the background.

One of the biggest problems I see in society today is a complete lack of motivation and self-discipline. Where there's a will, there's a way-- the problem is everyone expecting someone else to do it for them, or appealing to a higher authority to insulate them from the harsh reality of life.

Back when I went to boot camp, we had a borderline pork-chop in my platoon who barely made the cut to be enlisted, and he tried using excuses similar to things I have heard here. After a boot in his ass, a proper diet and some self-motivation, he lost 142 lbs. in 3 months (a lead-series record at the time) and was commended for his dedication. It was a damn hard road for him, but he hardened up and made himself do it. I had respect for him- no matter what, he wouldn't quit. Know where he is now? After his discharge, he wanted to help others do the same, and now owns a fitness center.

He is but one example. If he could do it, it stands to reason others can too. Do you really want it, or are you more comfortable sitting around bitching about it?

Fat-shaming? Sorry, I ran out of pity a long time ago.

This.

[Liriena]

One can encourage healthy lifestyles without being a dick about it. One can encourage people whose excess of weight is causing health problems to change their habits without perpetuating harmful notions about physical beauty and self-esteem.

Your signature concerns me.

Why?

Being a dick about something is your natural right, afterall. In America, you are protected under the United States Constitution's First Amendment, which says explicitly "...freedom of speech..." and in my opinion, you can be a dick if you want to be, just know ahead of time that I can inform you about your dickishness. It is your Constitutional right to be a bigoted moronic dumbass, but everyone else has the same right to let you know that you are said bigoted moronic dumbass and that your opinion is stupid.

Did I say that people don't have the right to be a dick?

No, I did not.

I said you can encourage healthy lifestyles without being a dick about it. In other words, that it is not necessary to be a dick. I did not that that it wasn't allowed.

[Jello Biafra]

Face it- modern society is superficial, but imposing your will on those who point out that you look like a half-chewed milk-dud isn't going to solve the problem at hand either.

I'm not sure that superficiality needs to be eliminated in that particular way, but certainly imposing [one's] will on superficial people would solve that problem.

[Liriena]

A wild voice of reason appears. Beauty standards are objectively unobtainable for the vast majority of population, especially women. I keep mentioning women because they are objectified as sex objects more often than men. Sure you can point to muscular male archetypes, but the image of a hyper sexualized thin woman is utterly ubiquitous

Yes. Only women have to deal with unrealistic beauty standards. Never has there ever been some kind of male beauty standard that the vast majority of the populace could not possibly reach without resorting to self-destructive means. I agree.

To be fair, I'm not sure the point of He-Man's appearance in particular was being attractive to another gender, or setting up a standard of male beauty. I think in He-Man's case it has more to do with idealized masculinity, male power fantasies and such.

[Liriena]

One can encourage healthy lifestyles without being a dick about it. One can encourage people whose excess of weight is causing health problems to change their habits without perpetuating harmful notions about physical beauty and self-esteem.

I've yet to see any kind of effective encouragement to live a healthier life that was not offensive, "offensive" or patronizing.

I don't know. The approach taken by the professionals I dealt with was pretty good in that regard.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Yes. Only women have to deal with unrealistic beauty standards. Never has there ever been some kind of male beauty standard that the vast majority of the populace could not possibly reach without resorting to self-destructive means. I agree.

To be fair, I'm not sure the point of He-Man's appearance in particular was being attractive to another gender, or setting up a standard of male beauty. I think in He-Man's case it has more to do with idealized masculinity, male power fantasies and such.

He-man definitely wasn't for girls if that means anything.

Also fat dudes have been in fiction forever if that means anything.

[Liriena]

Life was so much simpler before everyone got convinced that you need to go to university and pay them vast amounts to become a bigger pansy.

All of these “shaming” problems over every little thing just goes to show you how pathetic people have really become. I am frankly amazed that anyone nowadays managed to survive the school playground where teasing, bumps and bruises were a rite of passage instead of a felony. No one has a right to not be offended, and bubble-wrapping yourself with legislation and safe havens only make it worse. You will be judged by others in one way or another until the day you die, and some of the more infamous people will be judged long after that. Get used to it.

Fat-shaming? “You guys, I know I'm hefty, but you need to accept me for who I am.”

Bullshit- run your chubby ass around the block a couple of times a day. You'll feel better in the long term and maybe even regain a little of that self-esteem you keep whining about everyone stealing from you. If you consciously identified your problem, you have the ability to find a way to fix it. Face it- modern society is superficial, but imposing your will on those who point out that you look like a half-chewed milk-dud isn't going to solve the problem at hand either. This may come as a shock to some, but you actually have to stand on your own and work towards your own betterment. Get the smelling salts, I heard a couple of people faint in the background.

One of the biggest problems I see in society today is a complete lack of motivation and self-discipline. Where there's a will, there's a way-- the problem is everyone expecting someone else to do it for them, or appealing to a higher authority to insulate them from the harsh reality of life.

Back when I went to boot camp, we had a borderline pork-chop in my platoon who barely made the cut to be enlisted, and he tried using excuses similar to things I have heard here. After a boot in his ass, a proper diet and some self-motivation, he lost 142 lbs. in 3 months (a lead-series record at the time) and was commended for his dedication. It was a damn hard road for him, but he hardened up and made himself do it. I had respect for him- no matter what, he wouldn't quit. Know where he is now? After his discharge, he wanted to help others do the same, and now owns a fitness center.

He is but one example. If he could do it, it stands to reason others can too. Do you really want it, or are you more comfortable sitting around bitching about it?

Fat-shaming? Sorry, I ran out of pity a long time ago.

I love me some old-fashioned machismo and condescension in the afternoon.

[The East Marches]

Let me oppress you with my thin privilege, OP.

Such as being able to purchase clothing without an X in the size.

That was brutal. GG no re OP.

Let me oppress you with my thin privilege, OP.
Such as being able to purchase clothing without an X in the size.

That's not just "thin privilege", that's also "short privilege". You don't fit in anything less than an XL if you're 190 cm tall or more.

Trying to find shoes that fit without paying extra money is suffering too.