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Fat shaming and thin privilage

Postby Equalaria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:17 am

Id like to get some opinions on the concepts of fat shaming and thin privilege in modern society. What does it mean to you? How do you interact within its constructs? Is it irrelevant to you?

Personally I've expieirenced the overwhelming sense of oppressive norms applied- the vast majority are toward women. Obese people are typically shamed as slovenly or undisciplined, when in reality it is mainly an issue of ones genetic makeup. The institutional preference for slim sizes (once again almost always applied to women) is pervasive in the media. Accordingly, meme culture has found an entire sub genre of 'fate hate', which is itself an extension of fat shaming. I would argue that we need to change societal norms to be more accepting of the wide variety of body types, and to understand that it is perfectly natural to be curvy or heavier.

Thin privilege will require a reworking of mainstream beauty standards, but in small steps it is something that can be overcome.
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Postby Lynopia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:18 am

Isn't the correct word privilege ?
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:20 am

If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:20 am

Entirely irrelevant to me.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:21 am

Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.

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Postby Equalaria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:22 am

Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.


It is common belief that thier are genetic precursors to obesity. There is no need to shame someone as being too curvy. Why not just be s decent person and accept someone as they are?

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Postby The Independent Republic of China » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:22 am

To be fat means you're entirely out of shape.... And when the zombie apocalypse possibly starts in the future you're first to go.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:22 am

The Independent Republic of China wrote:To be fat means you're entirely out of shape.... And when the zombie apocalypse possibly starts in the future you're first to go.

But if you don't have a brain you should be good
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:23 am

Equalaria wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.


It is common belief that thier are genetic precursors to obesity. There is no need to shame someone as being too curvy. Why not just be s decent person and accept someone as they are?

Source please
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:23 am

Equalaria wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.


It is common belief that thier are genetic precursors to obesity. There is no need to shame someone as being too curvy. Why not just be s decent person and accept someone as they are?


I do, like, if someone is overweight, sure, I'm chill with them, I've got big friends, my dad is obese etc.

That all being said, there is a difference between fat shaming and asking for special privilege because you perceive healthy people to be privileged themselves.

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:24 am

Lynopia wrote:Isn't the correct word privilege ?

That's the correct spelling, yes.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany- » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:24 am

Equalaria wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.


It is common belief that thier are genetic precursors to obesity. There is no need to shame someone as being too curvy. Why not just be s decent person and accept someone as they are?


Obese =/= curvy.
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Postby Memovia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:24 am

Before I begin,I lost 20 kilograms(44 pounds) last year(mostly during summer).Hitting the gym was the best decision of my life.
It is true that women are often over sexualized in media(video games,movies,all that).People seem to forget that men are often oversexualized too,as they're often made overmuscular and unrealistically handsome.
There is nothing natural about being fat.A bit bigger, okay, but there's nothing healthy or natural about it.Being fat is a result of lazyness and bad diet.Of course, many people don't have time to work out as they have jobs and families, but teaching them that it's okay to be fat will create a generation of bums.
And losing fat isn't that hard to do, honestly.
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Postby The Robertson Clark nation » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:25 am

Equalaria wrote:Id like to get some opinions on the concepts of fat shaming and thin privilege in modern society. What does it mean to you? How do you interact within its constructs? Is it irrelevant to you?
fat shaming will not be accepted here and it is not a privlage to be thin
Personally I've expieirenced the overwhelming sense of oppressive norms applied- the vast majority are toward women. Obese people are typically shamed as slovenly or undisciplined, when in reality it is mainly an issue of ones genetic makeup. The institutional preference for slim sizes (once again almost always applied to women) is pervasive in the media. Accordingly, meme culture has found an entire sub genre of 'fate hate', which is itself an extension of fat shaming. I would argue that we need to change societal norms to be more accepting of the wide variety of body types, and to understand that it is perfectly natural to be curvy or heavier.

Thin privilege will require a reworking of mainstream beauty standards, but in small steps it is something that can be overcome.

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Postby Diopolis » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:25 am

Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.

Let's note that, contrary to popular belief, our ancestors ate more calories per person than we do. They still had lower obesity rates- far lower. Obviously, there's something going on that's not just people eat more.
I'd guess it's a combination of lack of exercise and eating lower quality food.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:26 am

Diopolis wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.

Let's note that, contrary to popular belief, our ancestors ate more calories per person than we do. They still had lower obesity rates- far lower. Obviously, there's something going on that's not just people eat more.
I'd guess it's a combination of lack of exercise and eating lower quality food.


That too. 200 calories worth of avocado and quinoa salad is hella different from 200 calories worth of McNutty's Diabetes Rolls.

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:27 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Equalaria wrote:
It is common belief that thier are genetic precursors to obesity. There is no need to shame someone as being too curvy. Why not just be s decent person and accept someone as they are?

Source please

I'm sure one can be found on this page.
Like many other medical conditions, obesity is the result of an interplay between behavior, environment, and genetic factors.[2] Studies have identified variants in several genes that may contribute to weight gain and body fat distribution; although, only in a few cases are genes the primary cause of obesity.[3][4]

Polymorphisms in various genes controlling appetite and metabolism predispose to obesity under certain dietary conditions. The percentage of obesity that can be attributed to genetics varies widely, depending on the population examined, from 6% to 85%.[5] As of 2006, more than 41 sites on the human genome have been linked to the development of obesity when a favorable environment is present.[6] The involvement of genetic factors in the development of obesity is estimated to be 40–70%. Some of these obesogenic or leptogenic genes may influence obese individuals response to weight loss or weight management.[7]



Diopolis wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:If obesity is part of one's genetic makeup, then why wasn't it an issue a century ago?

Get real, obesity is caused by poor dietary choices and a lack of exercise. Just as I'd tell someone to stop chain smoking, I'd tell someone to stop binge eating junk food.

If you're so insecure about your body image that you need to accuse others of shaming you, well, then thats really a wake up call, now isn't it? If you're fat, whatever, I don't care, but the healthy thing to do would be to get fit.

Let's note that, contrary to popular belief, our ancestors ate more calories per person than we do. They still had lower obesity rates- far lower. Obviously, there's something going on that's not just people eat more.
I'd guess it's a combination of lack of exercise and eating lower quality food.

Hey it's pure fat and sugar these days. :p
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Postby The Corporate Collective » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:27 am

I'm anorexic.

My privilege is higher than fat people's cholesterol!

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Postby Kyrinasaj » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:28 am

Being either too thin or too fat is unhealthy and not ''positive''. Obesity is just partially a genetic problem, since fast food and the like have been becoming mainstream obesity became a problem as well. But being curvy is slowly becoming the mainstream. Anorexic models are slowly fading away, curvy models now become more and more trendy as of late. To really show that plus size bodies have been becoming popular in the media at least is the fact that there are now many, many songs promoting being fat or ''having a fat ass'' like ''All about that bass'' by Meghan Trainor in which she is explicitly talking about ''skinny bitches''. now is that not thin shaming? And there have been many more like that.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany- » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:29 am

Kyrinasaj wrote:Being either too thin or too fat is unhealthy and not ''positive''. Obesity is just partially a genetic problem, since fast food and the like have been becoming mainstream obesity became a problem as well. But being curvy is slowly becoming the mainstream. Anorexic models are slowly fading away, curvy models now become more and more trendy as of late. To really show that plus size bodies have been becoming popular in the media at least is the fact that there are now many, many songs promoting being fat or ''having a fat ass'' like ''All about that bass'' by Meghan Trainor in which she is explicitly talking about ''skinny bitches''. now is that not thin shaming? And there have been many more like that.


Curvy is a healthy level of fat. Having junk in the trunk doesn't make ya fat. Like seriously what the fuck? Curvy women are fine. Its when you get to the point where your fat that its bad.
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Postby Communist Xomaniax » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:30 am

I mean, don't be a dick to people for being fat, but otherwise lel. The overwhelming majority of people are fat because they eat poorly and don't get enough exercise.
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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:30 am

I don't really care.
Be fat, if you want
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Postby Philjia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:32 am

Some people are naturally heavy set. This is different to being obese because you overeat. We have to accept the former while discouraging the latter, which is difficult balancing act. Too much one way and we get a heart disease and cancer boom; too much the other way and we get undereating and nutritional deficiencies.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:34 am

Philjia wrote:Some people are naturally heavy set. This is different to being obese because you overeat. We have to accept the former while discouraging the latter, which is difficult balancing act. Too much one way and we get a heart disease and cancer boom; too much the other way and we get undereating and nutritional deficiencies.

Heavy set people run in my family. All it means for me is that I have to work harder to keep from being obese and to add muscle.
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