Right Wing Discussion Thread The Fourth

[Conscentia]

I think tl;dw (too long; didn't watch), that channel is probably alt-right rubbish judging from it's video titles, and that you're probably a "race realist" given the video you're bringing up in particular.

Define your terms.

Which terms?

[Jumalariik]

Define your terms.

Which terms?

"race realist" and "alt right"

Redice Is a known alt-right channel and show.

[The Kievan People]

No sensible person in the world would look at that link an think: "this is promising, I better devote my time and attention to it."

Freaking out about discussions about race is an extremely western proclivity.

[New confederate ramenia]

Pro-tip: Instead of just linking an hour long video, try explaining what the video's about.

[Neanderthaland]

I mean... yes.

But I'm mostly just lamenting the idea throwing out an hour-long Youtube video on race as a catalyst for dialogue. No sensible person in the world would look at that link an think: "this is promising, I better devote my time and attention to it."

I'm doing that right now. Does that make me not-sensible?

Let's not make this personal, shall we?

[United Marxist Nations]

Wow, after reading that, the Patriarch's views seem largely the same as mine. I really feel like I need that set of books.

[Conserative Morality]

Pro-tip: Instead of just linking an hour long video, try explaining what the video's about.

Looks to be about how the Jews are behind everything.

[Conscentia]

Which terms?

"race realist" and "alt right"

Redice Is a known alt-right channel and show.

Why do you want me to define "alt-right" if you're not disputing that judgement?

Race realism is the (mistaken) belief that the human species is naturally divided into discrete biological categories called "races". It's synonymous with "racialism". The terms "racialist" and "race realist" are often used by racists who wish to distance themselves from the stigma of being a "racist".

[Jumalariik]

Pro-tip: Instead of just linking an hour long video, try explaining what the video's about.

Looks to be about how the Jews are behind everything.

Wow 1/10 accuracy.

It's about how white people have to act differently from other races in their self-identification.

[Jumalariik]

"race realist" and "alt right"

Redice Is a known alt-right channel and show.

Why do you want me to define "alt-right" if you're not disputing that judgement?

Race realism is the (mistaken) belief that the human species is naturally divided into discrete biological categories called "races". It's synonymous with "racialism". The terms "racialist" and "race realist" are often used by racists who wish to distance themselves from the stigma of being a "racist".

K.

I have given no evidence of being a "race realist."

[Conserative Morality]

Wow 1/10 accuracy.

It's about how white people have to act differently from other races in their self-identification.

I was going through the comments to get a feel for it since I hate watching videos.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Oh? What's my job? Minister of Bagmen?

Minister of re-education and waste recyling.

Waste "Recycling" ey? HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. Ganz Gut. (just like a Good Man from Riga we spoke of)

And Re-Education? There will be good citizens, they will be principled.

[Conscentia]

Why do you want me to define "alt-right" if you're not disputing that judgement?
Race realism is the (mistaken) belief that the human species is naturally divided into discrete biological categories called "races". It's synonymous with "racialism". The terms "racialist" and "race realist" are often used by racists who wish to distance themselves from the stigma of being a "racist".

K.
I have given no evidence of being a "race realist."

No conclusive evidence, but I did say "probably".

[Jumalariik]

K.
I have given no evidence of being a "race realist."

No conclusive evidence, but I did say "probably".

True. I quite frankly don't think I have enough knowledge on race one way or another to have an opinion.

[Dagashi Shojo]

His entire system was literally just ethnic prejudices placed on a metaphysical plane, and he was Himmler's fanboy.

The whole "Lunar," "Solar," and "Telluric" correspond to the stereotypical Oriental, Nordic, and Negroid of their time.

His association with Fascism is only natural, since he was the "master" of the Neo-Fascists.

Debatable. It was a complex concept. And I don't agree with it. But the way Racists nowadays say stuff might be at odds with his view.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/au ... Evola.html

Most of his modern fans are ridiculous about it though. Even going so far as to call actual traditionalists "liberals" for not being race idolators. /pol/ is autistic.

But it really isn't. You can take any of Evola's "spiritual races" and tie them into some ethnic stereotype. How is the "Solar man" not just a Nordicist fantasy, or the "Demetrian man" not a stereotype stemming from Orientalism?

[Jumalariik]

I finished the first hour. I don't really want to go through the work to hear the second one though.

[Ashkera]

in malaysia, indonesia, and singapore they'd be fined for endangering the public via letting mosquitoes run amok

* adds to list of Ashkeran fines *

Of course the Ontario liberals have made all our problems worse by throwing all our money into a big solar furnace. But they've been elected three times on that platform so????

Ontario first party plox, get rid of the liberals and tories, establish technocratic Ontario plox

Puppet Ideas #3378: (Separatist) Technocratic Ontario
(Ontario Action Party dominates the legislature.)

Why do you want me to define "alt-right" if you're not disputing that judgement?

Race realism is the (mistaken) belief that the human species is naturally divided into discrete biological categories called "races". It's synonymous with "racialism". The terms "racialist" and "race realist" are often used by racists who wish to distance themselves from the stigma of being a "racist".

Well, ancestry isn't entirely irrelevant, nor entirely uncorrelated, but in terms of things that can actually be proved and aren't massively confounded (for instance, by socioeconomic and cultural differences), it's stuff like lactase persistence, vitamin D isomers, that sort of thing.

[The Kievan People]

It's about how white people have to act differently from other races in their self-identification.

Obviously, yes.

The most glaring example is that there is no particular stigma to being attached to self-described Black Power groups and openly stating your prefer to associate only with other blacks. For non-white minorities a desire to associate with your own never carries any stigma, and is often facilitated by officialdom. The treatment of whites and non-whites is not even remotely symmetrical (the term "asymmetric multiculturalism" exists in Social Science literature for a reason), especially in English speaking democracies.

As Slate informs:

In his highly inventive 2004 book The Rise and Fall of Anglo-America, the sociologist Eric Kaufmann calls this bargain “asymmetrical multiculturalism.” Under asymmetrical multiculturalism, minority ethnic groups are encouraged to assert their group identities and to defend their group interests while the majority ethnic group is strongly discouraged from doing the same. Overt expressions of Jewish, Mexican, Laotian, or Bengali pride are very welcome. Overt expressions of WASP pride, however, are not. Kaufmann maintains that because WASPs, and to a lesser extent other whites, are denied the option of celebrating their ethnic heritage, they instead champion essentially ideological ideas, like individualism or a vague, ill-defined belief in “American exceptionalism” that is bereft of any real cultural content.

[Nusaresa]

in malaysia, indonesia, and singapore they'd be fined for endangering the public via letting mosquitoes run amok

* adds to list of Ashkeran fines *

Ontario first party plox, get rid of the liberals and tories, establish technocratic Ontario plox

Puppet Ideas #3378: (Separatist) Technocratic Ontario
(Ontario Action Party dominates the legislature.)

Good, very good.

[Conserative Morality]

Obviously, yes.

The most glaring example is that there is no particular stigma to being attached to self-described Black Power groups and openly stating your prefer to associate only with other blacks. For non-white minorities a desire to associate with your own never carries any stigma, and is often facilitated by officialdom.

lolwut

[Minzerland II]

Obviously, yes.

The most glaring example is that there is no particular stigma to being attached to self-described Black Power groups and openly stating your prefer to associate only with other blacks. For non-white minorities a desire to associate with your own never carries any stigma, and is often facilitated by officialdom.

lolwut

To be fair, he is correct about the stigmatisation of 'white power' opposed to 'black power'.

[The Kievan People]

lolwut

It's why the opened the black school. So the black children wouldn't be alienated by having to learn about white people.

[Conserative Morality]

To be fair, he is correct about the stigmatisation of 'white power' opposed to 'black power'.

That much I'll grant, but the whole "associating with your own" carrying no stigma with minorities is really detached from reality.

[Conserative Morality]

It's why the opened the black school. So the black children wouldn't be alienated by having to learn about white people.

Yeah, that was the exact opposite of clarification. I've even more confused about where you get your information from now.

[Minzerland II]

To be fair, he is correct about the stigmatisation of 'white power' opposed to 'black power'.

That much I'll grant, but the whole "associating with your own" carrying no stigma with minorities is really detached from reality.

I agree.