Right Wing Discussion Thread The Fourth

[-Harley-Quinn-]

You're right, be Cato instead.

Excuse me, I believe you meant it to be Sulla

Still not Nero.

[Napkiraly]

Excuse me, I believe you meant it to be Sulla

Still not Nero.

No one wants to be Nero. Plus, I would have thought Caligula or Elagabalus would be more to your liking?

[-Harley-Quinn-]

Still not Nero.

No one wants to be Nero. Plus, I would have thought Caligula or Elagabalus would be more to your liking?

Caligula's also a great pick. I mean, cmon who can beat that "My horse is a consul" gag?

And Elagabalus is the shit. Just a sucker for pain that lil demon.

But ya can't really beat burning down the whole fucking city ya rule. I mean, thats gotta be the gag ta end 'em all right there.

[Napkiraly]

You're right, be Cato instead.

Excuse me, I believe you meant it to be Sulla

All about that proscription.

[Minzerland II]

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?

1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality

It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

Are they mutually exclusive?

[Dushan]

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?

1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality

It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

What sort of equality are we talking about here? But order can help the state and society ensure and achieve both liberty and equality.

If I were to define it, then to make the State and it's Citizens as equal as possible and turn them into a unified Nation with leveling - to different degrees - differences of Origin, Class, Income, Heritage and all the other stuff along. Everyone is equal to a point.

Essentially France and to a lesser extend possibly Soviet Union pretty much. Current Germany has traits of this as well.

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?

1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality

It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

Are they mutually exclusive?

No. It just defines the priority, or most central motivation imo.

[Gages Icelandic Army]

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?

1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality

It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

Are they mutually exclusive?

Pretend they are.

[Minzerland II]

You're right, be Cato instead.

Excuse me, I believe you meant it to be Sulla

'Give me a sword, that I might free my country from slavery.'

[-Harley-Quinn-]

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?

1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality

It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

Are they mutually exclusive?

In a way, ya. Equality and Order aren't but liberty's a bit of a wildcard there. If ya want to give the people liberty, yer gonna have ta give up some of that order because people are gonna do disordered things that ya don't like. Equality too. Liberty basically destroys the whole concept of equality of outcome because some people are gonna make really shitty choices. When its just about opportunity its a little less exclusive, but extreme liberty will trample all over that shit pretty fast.

[Gages Icelandic Army]

39 people are watching this forum and 10 have voted! Get out and vote people! I'm curious!

[Minzerland II]

What sort of equality are we talking about here? But order can help the state and society ensure and achieve both liberty and equality.

If I were to define it, then to make the State and it's Citizens as equal as possible and turn them into a unified Nation with leveling - to different degrees - differences of Origin, Class, Income, Heritage and all the other stuff along. Everyone is equal to a point.

Essentially France and to a lesser extend possibly Soviet Union pretty much. Current Germany has traits of this as well.

Are they mutually exclusive?

No. It just defines the priority, or most central motivation imo.

Are they mutually exclusive?

Pretend they are.

Liberty, I guess.

[Grand Britannia]

I picked Order.

Sometimes you just have to tell people how not to fuck up.

[Nusaresa]

Order for me. But nothing overtly soul crushing, just use it as a tool to get things done.

Edit: Never mind, I pick equality. That is, equality of opportunity.

[-Harley-Quinn-]

I picked liberty. Cause fucking speed limits are government oppression.

[Dushan]

I picked Order.

Sometimes you just have to tell people how not to fuck up.

Holy Britannian Style I presume?

[-Harley-Quinn-]

I picked Order.

Sometimes you just have to tell people how not to fuck up.

Holy Britannian Style I presume?

Plantation the Irish, Long War now?

[Minzerland II]

Are they mutually exclusive?

In a way, ya. Equality and Order aren't but liberty's a bit of a wildcard there. If ya want to give the people liberty, yer gonna have ta give up some of that order because people are gonna do disordered things that ya don't like.

For this I'll appropriate a quotation by John Locke; 'The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom.'

Equality too. Liberty basically destroys the whole concept of equality of outcome because some people are gonna make really shitty choices. When its just about opportunity its a little less exclusive, but extreme liberty will trample all over that shit pretty fast.

I'm not an exponent of either 'Equality of Outcome' nor 'Extreme Liberty'.

[Grand Britannia]

I picked Order.

Sometimes you just have to tell people how not to fuck up.

Holy Britannian Style I presume?

A Briton Censor posted at every corner.

Can't help but notice you're wearing short shorts, citizen. Today's a bad day for you.

[Conscentia]

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?
1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality
It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

What if someone thinks "the most important core value of a state ideology" should be something that isn't one of those three?

[-Harley-Quinn-]

In a way, ya. Equality and Order aren't but liberty's a bit of a wildcard there. If ya want to give the people liberty, yer gonna have ta give up some of that order because people are gonna do disordered things that ya don't like.

For this I'll appropriate a quotation by John Locke; 'The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom.'

Equality too. Liberty basically destroys the whole concept of equality of outcome because some people are gonna make really shitty choices. When its just about opportunity its a little less exclusive, but extreme liberty will trample all over that shit pretty fast.

I'm not an exponent of either 'Equality of Outcome' nor 'Extreme Liberty'.

If ya give people any freedom, some people are gonna fuck up with it and other people are gonna do good with it. The fuck ups get shittier outcomes than the smart ones.

[Dushan]

Holy Britannian Style I presume?

A Briton Censor posted at every corner.

Can't help but notice you're wearing short shorts, citizen. Today's a bad day for you.

I am not wearing shorts but a navy blue skirt as part of my Holy Britannian School Uniform which is precisely the defined and government approved lenght and size. Which is of course by it's own definition totally disregarding the fact that it does result in occassionally exposure of the underlaying - also by definition - flash white panties who are covering some areas legit Imperial Citizens should not see, unless their view onto them is obstructed and censored by rectangualar black shapes.

[The East Marches]

To draw inspiration from Vicky and to condense Nusaresa's and other's ideas down. I think the poll should be this; What should be the most important core Value of a State Ideology?
1. Order
2. Liberty
3. Equality
It would be a short term poll and vehicle for encouraging discussion.

What if someone thinks "the most important core value of a state ideology" should be something that isn't one of those three?

Then they should talk to Paradox and get back to me. However, what is your opinion on the matter? What is most important to you?

[United Marxist Nations]

OH MY GOD, PLEASE STOP THE HARLEY QUINN IMPERSONATION

[-Harley-Quinn-]

OH MY GOD, PLEASE STOP THE HARLEY QUINN IMPERSONATION

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ya think I care? Take it er don't take it. Ignore me if ya can't handle it. But don't shove yer problems onta me. Make yer own choices, ok honey?

[Grand Britannia]

A Briton Censor posted at every corner.

Can't help but notice you're wearing short shorts, citizen. Today's a bad day for you.

I am not wearing shorts but a navy blue skirt as part of my Holy Britannian School Uniform which is precisely the defined and government approved lenght and size. Which is of course by it's own definition totally disregarding the fact that it does result in occassionally exposure of the underlaying - also by definition - flash white panties who are covering some areas legit Imperial Citizens should not see, unless their view onto them is obstructed and censored by rectangualar black shapes.

That length is satisfactory.

Carry on, citizen.

Though really, this would be closer to my clothing regulations