The freedom to lie

[Uxupox]

If you lie to me and I found about it later then you can literally fuck off to Mars.

Truth is always absolute. Even if it hurts I will always tell the truth because that's how I was raised.

[The Great Devourer of All]

If you lie to me and I found about it later then you can literally fuck off to Mars.

Truth is always absolute. Even if it hurts I will always tell the truth because that's how I was raised.

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

[Uxupox]

If you lie to me and I found about it later then you can literally fuck off to Mars.

Truth is always absolute. Even if it hurts I will always tell the truth because that's how I was raised.

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

Yup pretty much.

Better than you my friend who lies to feel good about themselves.

[Oceasia]

Yup pretty much.

Better than you my friend who lies to feel good about themselves.

Or maybe lie to make others feel good about themselves when they don't deserve to feel bad.

[Settrah]

It's bad enough applying for passports and licenses where they through the whole 'it is a criminal offence to give false information, yadayada level 4 fine of 25,000' routine. Yet alone the possibility that it is illegal to never ever tell the truth.

In that case, be prepared to tell your wife that she's fat, or that your child can't perform music for shit.

White lies are not always a bad thing.

[The Blaatschapen]

If you lie to me and I found about it later then you can literally fuck off to Mars.

Truth is always absolute. Even if it hurts I will always tell the truth because that's how I was raised.

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

The first I'd lie (and also lecture about beauty not being the most important thing in the world to judge people on). The second I won't. It's a tough one, but if I have to be the person giving them the answer, I'd rather tell them how it really is.

[Finland SSR]

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

The first I'd lie (and also lecture about beauty not being the most important thing in the world to judge people on). The second I won't. It's a tough one, but if I have to be the person giving them the answer, I'd rather tell them how it really is.

tbh, if a person has a brain tumor, or any other super serious disease, they're likely the cynical one thinking they won't last long (because they had to sit through all the operations and pain and shit), while the people around him or her are more optimistic. Or everyone is cynical.

If I ever were in such a situation, though, I'd ask the doctor and not a random relative.

[Farmia]

If you were to look at the entirety of human history, creationist or evolutionist, Religious, Atheist, agnostic, it doesn't matter. Human society would not have grown to be so advanced without lies, minor or massive. Tribes would've shattered without minor lies such as 'I don't know where that mammoth's leg went.' and 'Yeah, the kid is totally yours'.

[Gauthier]

Humanity is good at inventing and improvising subterfuge. If someone made a perpetual motion machine perfect lie detector people would just start altering their own mindset and spin half-truths to make it easier to evade detection.

[Veceria]

I lie all the time and I hate it. Lying sucks.
But now that I started to lie less I get sad more often. People seem to dislike, misunderstand or simply don't want to hear the truth.

[Uxupox]

Yup pretty much.

Better than you my friend who lies to feel good about themselves.

Or maybe lie to make others feel good about themselves when they don't deserve to feel bad.

Then they find out that you lied to them and actually wanted to know the truth.

[Grand Britannia]

If you want to see a world without lying just watch the Invention of Lying.

[Big Brain City]

Humanity is good at inventing and improvising subterfuge. If someone made a perpetual motion machine perfect lie detector people would just start altering their own mindset and spin half-truths to make it easier to evade detection.

Bullshit proliferation becomes a serious issue in this new world?

[Narintia]

Honesty is always the best policy. A society where everyone doesn't lie would be fantastic. I want to know exactly what people think of me, so I can chose whether or not to associate with them based on their opinions of me. It'd also validate my opinions of women as well, which would be fantastic.

If you answered 100% truthfully to every question ever posed to you, you'd probably be dead by now.

Plus, universal honesty is a two way street. Everybody would know exactly what you thought of them too. Boss? Check. Coworkers? Check. Friends and acquaintances? Check. Family? Check.

''Hi Nazrin, how are you doing?''
''Well, I just fucked my ugly ass coworker, got groped on the bus by some next women, was caught watching fucking Leafy at work, I'm now fired, and I hate my fucking life.''
''Uh... okay?''

*beep*

[The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster]

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

Yup pretty much.

Better than you my friend who lies to feel good about themselves.

...wow.

That's all I can say about that without violating site rules. Just...wow.

[Grand Britannia]

If you answered 100% truthfully to every question ever posed to you, you'd probably be dead by now.

Plus, universal honesty is a two way street. Everybody would know exactly what you thought of them too. Boss? Check. Coworkers? Check. Friends and acquaintances? Check. Family? Check.

''Hi Nazrin, how are you doing?''
''Well, I just fucked my ugly ass coworker, got groped on the bus by some next women, was caught watching fucking Leafy at work, I'm now fired, and I hate my fucking life.''
''Uh... okay?''

*beep*

This is a lie, Maus only watches Pyro for the clickbait cancer.

[Krasny-Volny]

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

Yup pretty much.

Better than you my friend who lies to feel good about themselves.

If you claim to never lie you are a liar.

[The Great Devourer of All]

So if a six year-old girl asks you if she's ugly, and you believe she is, you'll happily make her cry? Or if a person with a brain tumor asks you if you think they'll make it, you'll tell them that they'll probably be dead before Christmas?


Stay classy.

The first I'd lie (and also lecture about beauty not being the most important thing in the world to judge people on). The second I won't. It's a tough one, but if I have to be the person giving them the answer, I'd rather tell them how it really is.

For the first I'd probably lie as well and follow up with a similar talk about how external beauty isn't important and such, but for the second I'd probably say something like 'just stay hopeful' or 'I'm no doctor, but I know that you never give up'. Even if some patients may get tired of hearing that sort of thing over and over again, I'd rather leave the depressing frankness to the doctors.

[Gages Icelandic Army]

"If honesty is the best policy, then by process of elimination, dishonesty mus be the second-best policy." -George Carlin.

[Gages Icelandic Army]

The first I'd lie (and also lecture about beauty not being the most important thing in the world to judge people on). The second I won't. It's a tough one, but if I have to be the person giving them the answer, I'd rather tell them how it really is.

For the first I'd probably lie as well and follow up with a similar talk about how external beauty isn't important and such, but for the second I'd probably say something like 'just stay hopeful' or 'I'm no doctor, but I know that you never give up'. Even if some patients may get tired of hearing that sort of thing over and over again, I'd rather leave the depressing frankness to the doctors.

I wouldn't tell a terminally ill person they were gonna live. There's a lot to be done before you die. Get a will ready, contact family, etc. The truth will set that individual free from a horrible surprise. "LOL i lied. Now you only have a week to live. But weren't the stress free months worth it?"
Um. No.

[Digital Planets]

Plato one time said that lying is all right as long as it's noble, unless you're Tom Cruise, Sean Bean, or Angry Black Man #2(sic) from Pulp Fiction.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I prefer to tell the truth out of self-interest: it's just easier in the long run. There was a time in my life that I lied copiously, mostly out of a sense that I wasn't an interesting enough person. Fibbing was second nature. The problem is that when this becomes a habit, you have to start making up new lies to cover for inconsistencies in your old ones, and eventually you get caught out to much embarrassment and public shame. On the other hand, that isn't to say that I never lie. I just make sure that they're limited in scope, appropriate to the situation, and above all, necessary at that very moment. I also never tell one that I'm scared to be caught in.

So you agree lying is a necessity, even if overindulgence is bad.

If limited in scope and impact, always for a specific positive cause, and necessary at that moment when nothing else will do.

[USS Monitor]

If you want to see a world without lying just watch the Invention of Lying.

That was filmed in the city where I live. I haven't seen it, though.

[AiliailiA]

So you agree lying is a necessity, even if overindulgence is bad.

If limited in scope and impact, always for a specific positive cause, and necessary at that moment when nothing else will do.

If you want to see a world without lying just watch the Invention of Lying.

That was filmed in the city where I live. I haven't seen it, though.

Congratulations to both of you! You'll be great mods.

The lie detector isn't working yet is it?