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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
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61%
Donald Trump (Republican)
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31%
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Total votes : 133

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:53 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:

literal murderer?

why did you post that?


Foreign policy, perhaps. Benghazi.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:55 pm

If Trump plans to release a fake tax return, he's had plenty of time to get it written up.

But if he releases a fake and then the full version (not faked) is leaked, that would be a lot worse for him than not having released anything. Hence the delay.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:56 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:literal murderer?

why did you post that?


Foreign policy, perhaps. Benghazi.


ya but "literal murderer"?
whatever

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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:57 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Foreign policy, perhaps. Benghazi.


ya but "literal murderer"?

Yo soy Vince Foster.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:00 pm

Yo, another mini-poll by yours truly. Who here thinks that Johnson/ Weld can actually win some states?

Personally, I see them having a good chance in New Mexico, Colorado, and New Hampshire, but that's it.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:00 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
ya but "literal murderer"?

Yo soy Vince Foster.


or any of 42ish other bogus claims, eh?
whatever

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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:01 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:

literal murderer?

why did you post that?


"Literal" is a non-specific superlative, it's doesn't literally mean "literally". :p
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:01 pm

Agritum wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well the republicans might not object to Homeland monitoring the elections now. The RNC just got hacked: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/ ... index.html

If it's the Russians (I'm looking at Cozy and Fancy Bears), why would they? Do they need blackmail in case the Putin-approved candidate goes in power? Are they playing 5D Speed Chess by hacking both?

They need the list of #NeverTrump activists to add to the list of Democrats headed for the FEMA detention camps when Donald Trump declares himself President-for-Life and permanent junior Axis partner to the New Russian Empire.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:02 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Yo, another mini-poll by yours truly. Who here thinks that Johnson/ Weld can actually win some states?

Personally, I see them having a good chance in New Mexico, Colorado, and New Hampshire, but that's it.

I don't. They're nowhere close in those three states and haven't been making gains in months.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:I think we can safely say that the prediction websites have no clue what they are doing

Remember, electoral-vote.com is not a "prediction" site. It's a poll aggregation site. And of late, the huge nationwide web polls have been throwing off all of the State averages.
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:06 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Yo, another mini-poll by yours truly. Who here thinks that Johnson/ Weld can actually win some states?

Personally, I see them having a good chance in New Mexico, Colorado, and New Hampshire, but that's it.

Worse than zero. They don't have the numbers to carry any state. In order to win a state Gary Johnson is gonna need at least 35% of the vote. He's nowhere near that. His momentum is pretty much gone. If he can't even get in the debates, he certainly can't win all of any state's electoral votes the democratic way.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:09 pm

Wood Buffalo wrote:horseshit? just because some dumb ass lib website likes Hillary and thinks her supporters are swell does not mean Donald Trump is dishonest. He is forceful in his conviction for America and sets his values clearly. His supporters are normal Americans who are tired of the country being screwed over.

And when he tanks the economy, gets us into a war with Mexico, and suspends the Constitution, tell me: What are you going to say about him then?

Just make sure you use the right web page to print it up in what will then be America's official language.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:13 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Yo, another mini-poll by yours truly. Who here thinks that Johnson/ Weld can actually win some states?

Personally, I see them having a good chance in New Mexico, Colorado, and New Hampshire, but that's it.

Heh. Good one.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:15 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Yo, another mini-poll by yours truly. Who here thinks that Johnson/ Weld can actually win some states?

Personally, I see them having a good chance in New Mexico, Colorado, and New Hampshire, but that's it.

Worse than zero. They don't have the numbers to carry any state. In order to win a state Gary Johnson is gonna need at least 35% of the vote. He's nowhere near that. His momentum is pretty much gone. If he can't even get in the debates, he certainly can't win all of any state's electoral votes the democratic way.

I heard some noise about Utah, since all the Mormons hate Trump but won't vote Dem.

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:literal murderer?

why did you post that?


Foreign policy, perhaps. Benghazi.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was a bunch of Libyans with guns and firebombs and stuff who killed our guys at Benghazi (even if they were secret CIA stooges running a hit on the ambassador on Hillary and Obama's orders for reasons), not Khaleesi herself strolling in and unleashing Drogon or something.

Eol Sha wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
ya but "literal murderer"?

Yo soy Vince Foster.


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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:38 pm

It's probably been posted on this thread before, but gosh had I forgotten how much I liked Keith Olbermann.

Can we please put him in charge of the debates? And all election coverage?
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Postby Arlenton » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:52 pm

Is Bernie to blame for Clinton doing poorly with young voters, compared to Obama?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/09/dont-hate-millennials-save-it-bernie-sanders

I'd say that he has a little bit to do with it, but I wouldn't count out my party's decade long Psy Op to paint her as "corrupt" in the eyes of young voters.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:58 pm

Tectonix wrote:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/florida/

Oh no...Hillary lost Florida :(

She'd still have enough electoral votes to win, but yeah, this isn't a good. Clinton had a pretty rough couple of weeks, and she needs to make a comback pronto... or hope that Trump pulls another Khan.
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:59 pm

Arlenton wrote:Is Bernie to blame for Clinton doing poorly with young voters, compared to Obama?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/09/dont-hate-millennials-save-it-bernie-sanders

I'd say that he has a little bit to do with it, but I wouldn't count out my party's decade long Psy Op to paint her as "corrupt" in the eyes of young voters.

Apparently, people can't actually not like Clinton or disapprove of her record. No. It's Sanders' fault. It's all his fault and Hillary Clinton is the little lamb who wouldn't hurt a fly or do anything remotely controversial. No, no. Sanders is the big bad wolf trying to sink Clinton's campaign. Kevin Drum must be so shocked when someone with actual principles continues to fight for his ideals even when all the rich and powerful people in the Democratic demand he bow down to them and kiss their ring. Give me a fucking break.
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Postby Arlenton » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:04 pm

Tectonix wrote:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/florida/

Oh no...Hillary lost Florida :(

Same with Ohio and Iowa, and Clinton's just barely ahead in Nevada.

Give all four states to Trump and he still doesn't have enough to win. He needs to flip one more state.

Clinton has really nosedived but she still has a clear advantage.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:15 pm

Tectonix wrote:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/florida/

Oh no...Hillary lost Florida :(

Election's in November.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:15 pm

Tectonix wrote:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/florida/

Oh no...Hillary lost Florida :(

I didn't know the election got moved forward to today.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:22 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Tectonix wrote:http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/florida/

Oh no...Hillary lost Florida :(

I didn't know the election got moved forward to today.

You mean you didn't vote?

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:26 pm

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Freefall11111 wrote:I didn't know the election got moved forward to today.

You mean you didn't vote?

I don't need to vote. I'm part of CTR, they cast fifteen ballots on my behalf to rig the election.

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