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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
81
61%
Donald Trump (Republican)
41
31%
Draw
11
8%
 
Total votes : 133

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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:22 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Tectonix wrote:What if...Rocky de la Fuente is elected? *Gasp*


Kicked off the ballot in Pennsylvania yesterday. That's a 'sore loser' law since he contested the Dem nomination, the same should apply in Texas. Can't get on the ballot in California.

He's on the ballot in NY and FL but it won't be enough. He won't be eligible for 270 EC electors so his mathematical chance of winning is zero.

Almost zero. If all candidates fell below 270, and he won at least one elector, the house could vote to make him president.

You know, if he has a mind control beam.
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AiliailiA
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:33 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Kicked off the ballot in Pennsylvania yesterday. That's a 'sore loser' law since he contested the Dem nomination, the same should apply in Texas. Can't get on the ballot in California.

He's on the ballot in NY and FL but it won't be enough. He won't be eligible for 270 EC electors so his mathematical chance of winning is zero.

Almost zero. If all candidates fell below 270, and he won at least one elector, the house could vote to make him president.

You know, if he has a mind control beam.


The same can be said for the hundreds of independents who are on ballots in only one state.

America! Where anyone can become President ... mathematically
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:34 pm

Galloism wrote:You know, if he has a mind control beam.


Which requires something important to work on.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:01 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Kicked off the ballot in Pennsylvania yesterday. That's a 'sore loser' law since he contested the Dem nomination, the same should apply in Texas. Can't get on the ballot in California.

He's on the ballot in NY and FL but it won't be enough. He won't be eligible for 270 EC electors so his mathematical chance of winning is zero.

Almost zero. If all candidates fell below 270, and he won at least one elector, the house could vote to make him president.

You know, if he has a mind control beam.

I think if he had a mind control beam he wouldn't need to get elected.

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Nordengrund
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:06 pm

I don't know who I am really going to vote for yet, but I've checked out Evan McMullin and he seems like a decent candidate.

Part of the appeal I find in voting for him is that he is an independent, the same as me. However, he leans towards the right, and I'm a radical centrist, but I think I can get behind most of his stances.
1 John 1:9

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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:10 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Almost zero. If all candidates fell below 270, and he won at least one elector, the house could vote to make him president.

You know, if he has a mind control beam.


The same can be said for the hundreds of independents who are on ballots in only one state.

America! Where anyone can become President ... mathematically


You're forgetting the October Surprise, where we learn Trump, Pence, Clinton, and Kaine are all secretly involved in weekly four-ways with each other.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Myrensis
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:16 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Gauthier wrote:The so-called "liberal media" so hungry for reality TV ratings that they're pitching softballs to a documented bullshit and con artist, not giving a shit the country will tumble back centuries if it's not destroyed altogether and that they helped someone who wants to sue them on the slightest butthurt.

You know, if you keep eating random mushrooms, you might die from mushroom poisoning.


He's not wrong about the media being awful this cycle. I mean their pathetic desperation for false equivalencies and golden mean out of the desire to 'maintain access' and keep ratings up with horse race stories is annoying at the best of times, but the fact that they refuse to move away from it even in the face of Trumps utterly substance free campaign of pandering to the lowest common denominator is infuriating.

They'll cover him when he says something particularly obnoxious or offensive because it gets ratings, but the mountain of scandals surrounding him? Pfft, who has time to cover that when there's a juicy rumor that there's a guy who knows a guy who went to college with a guy who mowed the lawn for a guy who had some shady dealings with Clinton!?

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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:19 pm

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Economic Left/Right: -1.13
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:21 pm



And Now Breaking News: Hillary Clinton Picked Her Nose!
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:22 pm


You mean being weirdly mum on it again?
#NSTransparency

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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:23 pm

Uiiop wrote:

You mean being weirdly mum on it again?


“I’ll answer that question at the right time,” Trump said. “I just don’t want to answer it yet.”
whatever

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:24 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Uiiop wrote:You mean being weirdly mum on it again?


“I’ll answer that question at the right time,” Trump said. “I just don’t want to answer it yet.”


Like how he'll eventually release his tax returns (Cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants) and his medical records (Also cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants)?
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:24 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
The same can be said for the hundreds of independents who are on ballots in only one state.

America! Where anyone can become President ... mathematically


You're forgetting the October Surprise, where we learn Trump, Pence, Clinton, and Kaine are all secretly involved in weekly four-ways with each other.

While Bill Clinton and Melania Trump watch from the sideline naked with their hands tied behind their backs.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:24 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Uiiop wrote:You mean being weirdly mum on it again?


“I’ll answer that question at the right time,” Trump said. “I just don’t want to answer it yet.”

Yeah like that.
#NSTransparency

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Gauthier
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:25 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Galloism wrote:
You're forgetting the October Surprise, where we learn Trump, Pence, Clinton, and Kaine are all secretly involved in weekly four-ways with each other.

While Bill Clinton and Melania Trump watch from the sideline naked with their hands tied behind their backs.


And we'll get to see the Trump Pence logo acted out live.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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The Princes of the Universe
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:26 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:While Bill Clinton and Melania Trump watch from the sideline naked with their hands tied behind their backs.

And we'll get to see the Trump Pence logo acted out live.

Das nasti. >:(
Pro dolorosa Eius passione, miserere nobis et totius mundi.

In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti.
Domine Iesu Christe, Fili Dei, miserere mei, peccatoris.


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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:26 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:


Like how he'll eventually release his tax returns (Cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants) and his medical records (Also cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants)?

he doesn't want to lose the white nationalists, the health nutz or the 99%ers so, YES
whatever

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AiliailiA
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:32 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:


Like how he'll eventually release his tax returns (Cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants) and his medical records (Also cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants)?


An accountant would know what's too big a lie though. I say he'll get Dr. Bornstein to fake up his tax return.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:34 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:

Yeah like that.

I mean you'd think he could just say "yes", when asked the question. It isn't that difficult, he's making it more of something people notice by dancing around it like this.
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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:37 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Yeah like that.

I mean you'd think he could just say "yes", when asked the question. It isn't that difficult, he's making it more of something people notice by dancing around it like this.

Sure other than attention grabbing and stalling that type of answer is just a waste of time IMO.
#NSTransparency

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:39 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I mean you'd think he could just say "yes", when asked the question. It isn't that difficult, he's making it more of something people notice by dancing around it like this.

Sure other than attention grabbing and stalling that type of answer is just a waste of time IMO.

This isn't the first time he's responded weirdly to the question.
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AiliailiA
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:43 pm

Galloism wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:
That would've super fucked us and got us exactly the same result, just much quicker. Clinton was always leading in the polls and so was Trump. If we would've all voted in maybe March...It would've all been a lot less close.

ALSO, while we're at it. There's literally no reason to vote on a damn Tuesday in November. It's not in the constitution, it's just an arbitrary day from the 19th century. Why are we not voting on a Saturday? No reason. None.

This history on that is actually quite interesting. It's not arbitrary, although the original valid reasoning no longer applies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electio ... ted_States)


This is one of the internet-legal URL's which the forum software mangles if you don't put url and /url tags around it.

There are probably others, but the close bracket ) which wikipedia uses quite a lot, doesn't get recognized as part of the URL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Day_(United_States) works
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electio ... ted_States) doesn't

It's interesting. I had a vague notion that Saturdays weren't used because they're the Jewish sabbath (and Sunday obviously not either) and that's apparently true. Primary elections are often held on Saturdays now, I guess primary voting isn't seen as such a fundamental right.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
: eugenics :
What are the colons meant to convey here?
In my experience Colons usually convey shit

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Postby Isyrannaea » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:44 pm

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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:49 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Like how he'll eventually release his tax returns (Cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants) and his medical records (Also cribbed in 5 minutes by one of his accountants)?


An accountant would know what's too big a lie though. I say he'll get Dr. Bornstein to fake up his tax return.

lol

I think youre right
whatever

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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:51 pm

Isyrannaea wrote:

literal murderer?

why did you post that?
whatever

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