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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
81
61%
Donald Trump (Republican)
41
31%
Draw
11
8%
 
Total votes : 133

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Khadgar
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:41 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Alvecia wrote:These days it seems "compromise" has become a dirty word


It really has, nobody wants to work together nowadays.


Well it's hard to work with someone who refuses to work with you. Obama bent over backwards to try to please Republicans for years even past the point where it was obvious they'd refuse to support even their own bills if he got on board. Don't pretend this is a bipartisan problem, it's really not.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:59 am

Atlanticatia wrote:..Aaand the truth comes out: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... to-release

"Donald Trump Jr. on Wednesday defended his father's decision not to release his tax returns, saying scrutiny of the documents would distract from his campaign message."

Nothing to do with an audit. It's just that putting sunlight on potentially shady things on Trump's tax returns would be...distracting.

What 'message'?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:00 am

Blakk Metal wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:..Aaand the truth comes out: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... to-release

"Donald Trump Jr. on Wednesday defended his father's decision not to release his tax returns, saying scrutiny of the documents would distract from his campaign message."

Nothing to do with an audit. It's just that putting sunlight on potentially shady things on Trump's tax returns would be...distracting.

What 'message'?

"Vote Trump" presumably.

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Postby European Guilds » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:02 am

Blakk Metal wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:..Aaand the truth comes out: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... to-release

"Donald Trump Jr. on Wednesday defended his father's decision not to release his tax returns, saying scrutiny of the documents would distract from his campaign message."

Nothing to do with an audit. It's just that putting sunlight on potentially shady things on Trump's tax returns would be...distracting.

What 'message'?

Make America Great Again!

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:06 am


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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:28 am



Did it take longer than five minutes for him to write that this time?
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Postby Shonburg » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:19 am

Trump is saying in his speech at the 'New York economic club' says that Clinton's plan will cost the economy 5 trillion (projecting much there Donald?) And that he will 'cut business tax by 40%' (whatever that means).
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:33 am


If a 70 has to say he's in "excellent health" then he's probably not in excellent health. Nobody over the age of 25 is in "excellent" health.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:38 am

European Guilds wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:What 'message'?

Make America Great Again!

Along with the billionaires that back him.
http://www.gregpalast.com/trump-13-lose ... more-12453
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Postby Trumpostan » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:38 am

Alvecia wrote:

If a 70 has to say he's in "excellent health" then he's probably not in excellent health. Nobody over the age of 25 is in "excellent" health.


He certainly doesn't look healthy. All fat and bloated.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:40 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
European Guilds wrote:Make America Great Again!

Along with the billionaires that back him.
http://www.gregpalast.com/trump-13-lose ... more-12453


Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/h ... res-226538
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:41 am

European Guilds wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:What 'message'?

Make America Great Again!

That's a slogan. Not a message.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:44 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:Along with the billionaires that back him.
http://www.gregpalast.com/trump-13-lose ... more-12453


Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/h ... res-226538


Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back John- Ah, shit.

Where's all our billionaires at?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:45 am



I'd like to see him beat Gary Johnson in a race. Across the Arizona desert.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:46 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:


I'd like to see him beat Gary Johnson in a race. Across the Arizona desert.


And then for irony his tan intensifies to where he's mistaken for a Mexican crossing the border and gets deported.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:47 am

Community Values wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/h ... res-226538


Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back John- Ah, shit.

Where's all our billionaires at?


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:48 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:


I'd like to see him beat Gary Johnson in a race. Across the Arizona desert.

Donald Trump in shorts and a singlet, sweating profusely? No one wants to see that.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:48 am

Gauthier wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
I'd like to see him beat Gary Johnson in a race. Across the Arizona desert.


And then for irony his tan intensifies to where he's mistaken for a Mexican crossing the border and gets deported.


Maybe. He is orange enough. He reminds me of Snooki.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:49 am

Blakk Metal wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:..Aaand the truth comes out: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... to-release

"Donald Trump Jr. on Wednesday defended his father's decision not to release his tax returns, saying scrutiny of the documents would distract from his campaign message."

Nothing to do with an audit. It's just that putting sunlight on potentially shady things on Trump's tax returns would be...distracting.

What 'message'?

"Lyin' crooked Hillary is hiding something evil in her e-mails and foundation!!!!!!!11111!!!! I read it on twitter from some guy called WHITESRULE2016!!!11!!"
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:49 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And then for irony his tan intensifies to where he's mistaken for a Mexican crossing the border and gets deported.


Maybe. He is orange enough. He reminds me of Snooki.

We do not speak of Snooki.
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Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
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For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:53 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:Along with the billionaires that back him.
http://www.gregpalast.com/trump-13-lose ... more-12453


Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back Clinton.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/h ... res-226538

Sure, I agree, neither Clinton nor Trump are worth supporting.
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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:53 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Community Values wrote:
Not as great as the amount of billionaires that back John- Ah, shit.

Where's all our billionaires at?


Big Tomato


Wow, now if only a bunch of agriculture millionaires started donating.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:53 am

Community Values wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Big Tomato


Wow, now if only a bunch of agriculture millionaires started donating.


Nah, they get corn subsidies and as a result get to be good puppets.
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Postby Tananat » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:24 am

Wood Buffalo wrote:Hillary is the most dishonest person since Obama to run. The only thing that is worse is that she is even further in the pocket of globalist elites. Trump is by far most honest, it couldn't be more obvious he is just more a consistent guy while Hillary panders mercilessly to any voting bloc be it blacks or Islamists or illegals.

I feel like being amused so I'll bite... how big a voting bloc are illegal immigrants?

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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:28 am

Wood Buffalo wrote:Hillary is the most dishonest person since Obama to run. The only thing that is worse is that she is even further in the pocket of globalist elites. Trump is by far most honest, it couldn't be more obvious he is just more a consistent guy while Hillary panders mercilessly to any voting bloc be it blacks or Islamists or illegals.

How managed to cram so many falsehoods into a single short paragraph is beyond me.
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Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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