Criticising monarchy by saying it's contrary to republicanism is like criticising socialism because it's contrary to capitalism. It doesn't make sense.
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by Novsvacro » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:58 pm
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:01 pm
by Novsvacro » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:04 pm
Eol Sha wrote:Novsvacro wrote:Criticising monarchy by saying it's contrary to republicanism is like criticising socialism because it's contrary to capitalism. It doesn't make sense.
Not sure how since one is a repudiation of the other and since I agree with one, I do not like or approve of the other.
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:04 pm
by Collatis » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:10 pm
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by Navaronia » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:13 pm
Collatis wrote:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/second-presidential-debate-trump-clinton-alabama-2016-214343
I really must say I can't imagine living in the deep south, being as political as I am.
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:16 pm
Navaronia wrote:Collatis wrote:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/second-presidential-debate-trump-clinton-alabama-2016-214343
I really must say I can't imagine living in the deep south, being as political as I am.
The lines that divide our ideologies, or parties, is really present. It's also amazing how the Democrats were once super popular in the south, yet the Republicans were also popular in the north.
by Migdal Bavel » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:17 pm
Implacable Death wrote:Migdal Bavel wrote:Really?!
So how exactly are you defining 'man'? Last I checked, 'being a man' is something they share with about three and a half milliard people, many of whom don't have much in common with each other.
Yes, really. My signature has nothing to do with the reasons why I would support either Reagan or Theodore Roosevelt.
by Liriena » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:17 pm
Navaronia wrote:Collatis wrote:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/second-presidential-debate-trump-clinton-alabama-2016-214343
I really must say I can't imagine living in the deep south, being as political as I am.
The lines that divide our ideologies, or parties, is really present. It's also amazing how the Democrats were once super popular in the south, yet the Republicans were also popular in the north.
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by Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:31 pm
Collatis wrote:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/second-presidential-debate-trump-clinton-alabama-2016-214343
I really must say I can't imagine living in the deep south, being as political as I am.
by Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:52 pm
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:53 pm
Galloism wrote:New poll. We'll have to wait and see if this is the new normal or a bump in the road for Donald. He's shaken off bad shit before, you know.
Clinton leads trump by 11 points in a four way matchup, by 14 in a two way matchup.
by Galloism » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:54 pm
Eol Sha wrote:Galloism wrote:New poll. We'll have to wait and see if this is the new normal or a bump in the road for Donald. He's shaken off bad shit before, you know.
Clinton leads trump by 11 points in a four way matchup, by 14 in a two way matchup.
Jesus. This one poll has been brought up four or five separate times in this thread.
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:54 pm
by Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:55 pm
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:57 pm
by Myrensis » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:02 pm
by Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:03 pm
by Corrian » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:10 pm
Khadgar wrote:Bias didn't lose Bernie the election. Writing off the south as unimportant lost Bernie the election. Then implying votes from red states didn't really count certainly didn't help.
by AiliailiA » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:13 pm
NBC News wrote:The poll, conducted on Saturday and Sunday but before the second presidential debate, shows Clinton with 46 percent support among likely voters in a four-way matchup, compared to 35 percent for Trump.
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by The Romulan Republic » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:13 pm
by Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:15 pm
Myrensis wrote:Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:It got old after the second time... I would chalk it up as an outlier, its sample size is too small, and it has a huge margin of error.
Still somewhat amusing, because we know that if Trump got some oddball poll like that he'd have found an excuse to tweet it 20 or 30 times by now. "Trump up by 11", "Thank you America, up by 11", "11 Point Lead for Trump New Poll!" "Making America Great Again, 11 points!" etc.
by AiliailiA » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:19 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:21 pm
Ailiailia wrote:Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:It got old after the second time... I would chalk it up as an outlier, its sample size is too small, and it has a huge margin of error.
Sample size of 500 is smallish, but that's WHY it has a largish (not huge) margin of error. You can make one of those objections but not both.
The margin of error is 4.6 for Likely Voters. You can't dismiss an 11 point lead because of that.
There IS a reason not to pay much attention to it though:NBC News wrote:The poll, conducted on Saturday and Sunday but before the second presidential debate, shows Clinton with 46 percent support among likely voters in a four-way matchup, compared to 35 percent for Trump.
It was taken after the "locker room talk" but before the second debate. Things have changed a bit since.
by Salandriagado » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:24 pm
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