US General Election Thread IV: The Beginning of the End

by **Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:25 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:+/- 4.5 is huge, the swing could be 9 points.

But it's still significantly smaller than the lead in question.

I never said that she did not have a lead, I just think she does not have a double digit lead. It is probably one of those weird outlier polls, kind of like the USC polls. I say she is up by 5-7 points.

by **Rio Cana** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:27 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:
You got to be kidding. Chances are he came into office with a small bank account and is leaving with it overflowing big time. He did approve that law on allowing no limits on persons/companies who give campaign funds.

What law is that?

The law had to do with the political conventions. Its saves the government money but opens the door to private sources which have the money.
Read this - http://truthinmedia.com/obama-signs-lan ... nventions/

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:30 pm

I am wondering, how do you guys think the gaffe of the weekend affected Trump among the religious population in America?

by **The United Territories of Providence** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:32 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I am wondering, how do you guys think the gaffe of the weekend affected Trump among the religious population in America?

shhh!

You're spoiling the question of the next poll!

by **Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:34 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I am wondering, how do you guys think the gaffe of the weekend affected Trump among the religious population in America?

Which one?

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:43 pm

Gotta love that this sinks Trump yet he gets away with everything else he freaking said all year.

Though to be fair, I don't think he ever gained much support, Clinton just lost it...and presumably gained it back again. Now Trump is losing his. Because being asshole racists to Mexicans and Muslims isn't enough, sexual assault is.

by **Penguin Union Nation** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:45 pm

Khadgar wrote:Bias didn't lose Bernie the election. Writing off the south as unimportant lost Bernie the election. Then implying votes from red states didn't really count certainly didn't help.

The power of name brand recognition lost Bernie the election. Clinton Brand Politics™ has been around for decades, and people went into the booth, saw her name, and voted without considering positions.

by **The Lone Alliance** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:47 pm

Wow we almost maxed out yet another thread...

by **The Romulan Republic** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:52 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:Wow we almost maxed out yet another thread...

Wonder if we'll max out another before this election is over.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:52 pm

Penguin Union Nation wrote:The power of name brand recognition lost Bernie the election. Clinton Brand Politics™ has been around for decades, and people went into the booth, saw her name, and voted without considering positions.

Or they voted for her because they like her. Shocking, I know.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:52 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I am wondering, how do you guys think the gaffe of the weekend affected Trump among the religious population in America?

Which one?

Mostly Evangelical Christians.

But I am also wondering about the Catholic and Orthodox population.

by **Ebliania** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:54 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Which one?

Mostly Evangelical Christians.

But I am also wondering about the Catholic and Orthodox population.

I think Mormons would be hit the hardest, but don't take my word on it.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:58 pm

The Utah governor took back his endorsement, and Mormons seemed reluctant to support Trump anyway, so that may go over badly in that state.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:58 pm

Influential Protestant women are speaking out against Trump and criticizing the male leaders of American Protestantism for not speaking up against Trump's tape. They feel this is more than an ethical issue, but also theological.

by **The Adonalsium** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:59 pm

Trump hung himself. Hilary didn't have to do a thing, at times she explained more than she actually had to.
As a Canadian, i feel much better about this election. At this point its just the Trumpettes left.

by **The Lone Alliance** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:01 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Which one?

Mostly Evangelical Christians.

But I am also wondering about the Catholic and Orthodox population.

What I'm seeing right now is more of "Trump has said horrible things but Clinton will do Horrible things"

Literally at this Point Trump would have to promise to swear in on the Satanic bible and promise mandatory abortion to truly lose the religious nut crowd.

They're willing to accept an asshole for President as long as the asshole does the things they want him to do.
They know for a Fact that Hillary Clinton will never do what they want.
They aren't 100% sure if Trump will sell them out.

If Trump had ran on Family Values like a normal Republican it would have doomed him for good, but he didn't.

by **Blouman Empire** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:02 pm

So no election competition thread this year?

by **Eol Sha** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:03 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:So no election competition thread this year?

No what?

by **Socialist Nordia** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:05 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I am wondering, how do you guys think the gaffe of the weekend affected Trump among the religious population in America?

This combined with Mike Lee, Gary Herbert, and Jason Chaffetz retracting their endorsements in the aftermath will really hit hard with Mormons. Mormons, as opposed to most evangelical protestants, more often hold constistent to their morality. Many in the evangelical community may just shrug this aside, pretend it didn't happen, and vote Trump.

by **AiliailiA** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:07 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:So no election competition thread this year?

No what?

Geuss the electoral college result. If two posters guessed the same, the one who posted their prediction first wins.

The prize of course, is a big fat nothing.

EDIT: My first punt: Landslide for Clinton

375 Clinton (as per map, the blue in Nebraska is NE-2)
163 Trump

by **Eol Sha** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:09 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:No what?

Geuss the electoral college result. If two posters guessed the same, the one who posted their prediction first wins.

The prize of course, is a big fat nothing.

Was this done back in 2012 'cuz I was around then and I don't remember such a thread?

by **Arlenton** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:11 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:No what?

Geuss the electoral college result. If two posters guessed the same, the one who posted their prediction first wins.

The prize of course, is a big fat nothing.

I'd do this haha. We should all do it.

by **The United Territories of Providence** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:12 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:No what?

Geuss the electoral college result. If two posters guessed the same, the one who posted their prediction first wins.

The prize of course, is a big fat nothing.

I don't know anything about this. But I would think Alien Space Bats would create that as a separate thread seeing as they love data and politics.

by **Ebliania** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:12 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:No what?

Geuss the electoral college result. If two posters guessed the same, the one who posted their prediction first wins.

The prize of course, is a big fat nothing.

Sure.

347-191

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I am wondering, how do you guys think the gaffe of the weekend affected Trump among the religious population in America?

This combined with Mike Lee, Gary Herbert, and Jason Chaffetz retracting their endorsements in the aftermath will really hit hard with Mormons. Mormons, as opposed to most evangelical protestants, more often hold constistent to their morality. Many in the evangelical community may just shrug this aside, pretend it didn't happen, and vote Trump.

Huh. So I was right, Mormons really are trying to ditch Trump. Does that mean Utah will go blue?

by **The United Territories of Providence** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:13 pm

BTW, when we enter page 497, the new mega-thread will already be in existence.

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