US General Election Thread IV: The Beginning of the End

[Corrian]

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

Yet he has one of the highest approval ratings and there is practically nothing terrible he has done. In fact, he was incapable of even doing much with the useless thing called our congress.

And it's not entirely a Clinton "circlejerk". I'm not exactly a huge fan of hers, either. But I have decided pretty vehemently that she is the preferred candidate over freaking Trump. I don't consider it to be the wrong person at all, since Trump was a no for me since he first announced, then managed to pile on probably like 100 other reasons why he is a no over this election cycle.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

Let's assume that you're right and that Obama was terrible.

How is Trump any better? Mind, saying "well he is not Clinton" doesn't count as him being actually better.

[Ashmoria]

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

Obama has been an excellent president and is as popular as Reagan was at this point in his administration.

you seem to be out of step with the American public.

[Ism]

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

Obama is not, nor was he ever, terrible. He's a been a good president caught in a series of difficult situations for his entire tenure, often with a Congress that is gridlocked, if not outright obstructionist.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So ive only caught snippets of the debate yesterday, im not actually sure about this one as ive seen less of it then i did the last one.

Whats the consensus on here about who won or outperformed the other?

Oh wait there is a poll.

[Ism]

So ive only caught snippets of the debate yesterday, im not actually sure about this one as ive seen less of it then i did the last one.

Whats the consensus on here about who won or outperformed the other?

Oh wait there is a poll.

I'd take the above poll with a grain of salt. Same with most internet polls it's unscientific.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So ive only caught snippets of the debate yesterday, im not actually sure about this one as ive seen less of it then i did the last one.

Whats the consensus on here about who won or outperformed the other?

Oh wait there is a poll.

I'd take the above poll with a grain of salt. Same with most internet polls it's unscientific.

Im looking at it mainly for how people on this thread think, but then again most people who vote in polls probably dont post anyway.

[Eol Sha]

According to Wikipedia, there are 6 candidates with enough ballot access to win
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So out of these 6, who would you vote for?

Still Clinton.

Clinton- About the least damaging option there is. Don't really trust her to fight for every part of her supposed agenda and I still think she is way too quick to consider intervention in Syria, but out of those six? It's a no brainer to vote for her. (6/6 - Please gib Sanders)

Trump- I've made my thoughts about this lying, narcissistic windbag who's incapable of being specific or telling the truth pretty clear in this thread before. But in case you don't know, he's about the last person who should be in the White House. (0/6 - Still better than Ted Cruz)

Johnson- As a progressive and a leebrul, I find that I have a complicated relationship with libertarianism. As far as Johnson goes, he seems like a likable enough guy. Unfortunately for him, he also pushes for crazy economic policies. (4/6 - A mixed bag)

Stein- As a Sanders supporter and fervent progressive, you'd think I'd support Jill Stein. Well, I don't. From her VP pick to her vaccine games to her knee jerk isolationism, I don't think Jill Stein should be President. (5/6 - Good ideas, poor candidate)

Castle- I don't know anything about this guy or much about the CP. What I do know, though, is deeply troubling. Social conservatism, xenophobia, and isolationism? Not good, in my opinion. Either way, consider me eternally uninterested. (1/6 - I do not mesh with conservatism)

McMullin- I've heard various things about McMullin. I dunno how much of a centrist he is, but what I do know is that he's a CIA prig. Even worse, though, he was the Chief policy director for the House Republican Conference and describes himself as a conservative alternative. (2/6 - lolno)

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

According to Wikipedia, there are 6 candidates with enough ballot access to win
(Image)

So out of these 6, who would you vote for?

Still Clinton.

Clinton- About the least damaging option there is. Don't really trust her to fight for every part of her supposed agenda and I still think she is way too quick to consider intervention in Syria, but out of those six? It's a no brainer to vote for her. (6/6 - Please gib Sanders)

Trump- I've made my thoughts about this lying, narcissistic windbag who's incapable of being specific or telling the truth pretty clear in this thread before. But in case you don't know, he's about the last person who should be in the White House. (0/6 - Still better than Ted Cruz)

Johnson- As a progressive and a leebrul, I find that I have a complicated relationship with libertarianism. As far as Johnson goes, he seems like a likable enough guy. Unfortunately for him, he also pushes for crazy economic policies. (4/6 - A mixed bag)

Stein- As a Sanders supporter and fervent progressive, you'd think I'd support Jill Stein. Well, I don't. From her VP pick to her vaccine games to her knee jerk isolationism, I don't think Jill Stein should be President. (5/6 - Good ideas, poor candidate)

Castle- I don't know anything about this guy or much about the CP. What I do know, though, is deeply troubling. Social conservatism, xenophobia, and isolationism? Not good, in my opinion. Either way, consider me eternally uninterested. (1/6 - I do not mesh with conservatism)

McMullin- I've heard various things about McMullin. I dunno how much of a centrist he is, but what I do know is that he's a CIA prig. Even worse, though, he was the Chief policy director for the House Republican Conference and describes himself as a conservative alternative. (2/6 - lolno)

The GOP if they decide they were not conservative enough this time, they might run Ted Cruz.

I think he will actually impose fundamentalist Christian law on the country.

[Gauthier]

Still Clinton.

Clinton- About the least damaging option there is. Don't really trust her to fight for every part of her supposed agenda and I still think she is way too quick to consider intervention in Syria, but out of those six? It's a no brainer to vote for her. (6/6 - Please gib Sanders)

Trump- I've made my thoughts about this lying, narcissistic windbag who's incapable of being specific or telling the truth pretty clear in this thread before. But in case you don't know, he's about the last person who should be in the White House. (0/6 - Still better than Ted Cruz)

Johnson- As a progressive and a leebrul, I find that I have a complicated relationship with libertarianism. As far as Johnson goes, he seems like a likable enough guy. Unfortunately for him, he also pushes for crazy economic policies. (4/6 - A mixed bag)

Stein- As a Sanders supporter and fervent progressive, you'd think I'd support Jill Stein. Well, I don't. From her VP pick to her vaccine games to her knee jerk isolationism, I don't think Jill Stein should be President. (5/6 - Good ideas, poor candidate)

Castle- I don't know anything about this guy or much about the CP. What I do know, though, is deeply troubling. Social conservatism, xenophobia, and isolationism? Not good, in my opinion. Either way, consider me eternally uninterested. (1/6 - I do not mesh with conservatism)

McMullin- I've heard various things about McMullin. I dunno how much of a centrist he is, but what I do know is that he's a CIA prig. Even worse, though, he was the Chief policy director for the House Republican Conference and describes himself as a conservative alternative. (2/6 - lolno)

The GOP if they decide they were not conservative enough this time, they might run Ted Cruz.

I think he will actually impose fundamentalist Christian law on the country.

It will be called The Cruzade.

[Crimiea]

Kenneth Bone 2016.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The GOP if they decide they were not conservative enough this time, they might run Ted Cruz.

I think he will actually impose fundamentalist Christian law on the country.

It will be called The Cruzade.

DEUS VULT, AVA MARIA, SAN SANCTUM SOMETHING OR OTHER!

[Trumpostan]

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

Nobody requires you to love Hillary. I backed Bernie in the primaries until mid to late march when the writing was on the wall that he would not win.

But Obama a terrible president? Compared to who? He's easily into the top 5 all time. Should be on Mount Rushmore for the cleanup he did after the utter mess W left behind.

[Khadgar]

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

Nobody requires you to love Hillary. I backed Bernie in the primaries until mid to late march when the writing was on the wall that he would not win.

But Obama a terrible president? Compared to who? He's easily into the top 5 all time. Should be on Mount Rushmore for the cleanup he did after the utter mess W left behind.

Eh, I rank him as above average but not top 5. Top 10 almost certainly.

[Corrian]

Nobody requires you to love Hillary. I backed Bernie in the primaries until mid to late march when the writing was on the wall that he would not win..

Wasn't mid to late March when he won 8 states in a row? Seems like a weird time to think he couldn't win.

Pretty sure I voted in late March anyway...

[Hurdergaryp]

It will be called The Cruzade.

DEUS VULT, AVA MARIA, SAN SANCTUM SOMETHING OR OTHER!

That's a few degrees too Catholic for the average evangelical.

[Trumpostan]

Nobody requires you to love Hillary. I backed Bernie in the primaries until mid to late march when the writing was on the wall that he would not win.

But Obama a terrible president? Compared to who? He's easily into the top 5 all time. Should be on Mount Rushmore for the cleanup he did after the utter mess W left behind.

Eh, I rank him as above average but not top 5. Top 10 almost certainly.

Please don't interrupt my partisan hackery

Another of my favorite presidents is Harry Truman. Not necessarily the best, but a man with convictions and faced with similar circumstances as Obama in the sense that he had an obstructionist GOP controlled Congress literally attempting to block everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-7kpqhnXHE
It gets really interesting at the 16:00 mark, much of which could be translated to today.

[Trumpostan]

Nobody requires you to love Hillary. I backed Bernie in the primaries until mid to late march when the writing was on the wall that he would not win..

Wasn't mid to late March when he won 8 states in a row? Seems like a weird time to think he couldn't win.

Pretty sure I voted in late March anyway...

She had big wins in Texas, Florida and most of the southern states giving her a lead that Bernie was unlikely to overcome. One big win in a big state gives you a better delegate advantage than 7-8 similar wins in smaller states.

[Novsvacro]

I'd be voting against Clinton if the GOP nominee was literally anyone but Trump. Cruz, Bush, or especially Rubio and Kasich would win my support.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

I'd be voting against Clinton if the GOP nominee was literally anyone but Trump. Cruz, Bush, or especially Rubio and Kasich would win my support.

You are telling me you would vote for Ted Cruz? Really Trump may have said some horrible things, but I do not expect him to follow through with them. Ted Cruz is a Christian fundamentalist, who actually may impose fundamentalist law in the US. I would rather vote for Trump 10 times over than cast a single ballot for Cruz.

[Cannot think of a name]

Kind of funky, but Arizona being a toss up won't be a deciding state. By the time polls close and states are called if Arizona flips it will be after the race is called for Clinton because of time zones. So Arizona going blue, if it does for whatever reason, won't be what loses Trump the presidency but instead be the salt in the wound.

Not really an insight or anything, just something I was thinking about looking at the map.

[Navaronia]

From the most recent poll conducted in the thread, most NSG'ers think Clinton won and I agree. This week and the last couple weeks haven't been the Donalds best, he could step up his game.

[Khadgar]

From the most recent poll conducted in the thread, most NSG'ers think Clinton won and I agree. This week and the last couple weeks haven't been the Donalds best, he could step up his game.

I'm not sure how a campaign recovers once their candidate has been caught on tape bragging about assaulting women and getting by with it by virtue of being a star. Then again Trump has had dozens of scandals that should have sunk the bastard.

[Hurdergaryp]

From the most recent poll conducted in the thread, most NSG'ers think Clinton won and I agree. This week and the last couple weeks haven't been the Donalds best, he could step up his game.

I'm not sure how a campaign recovers once their candidate has been caught on tape bragging about assaulting women and getting by with it by virtue of being a star. Then again Trump has had dozens of scandals that should have sunk the bastard.

The success of Trump tells you something about the true nature of America. It ain't pretty.

[Nazeroth]

From the most recent poll conducted in the thread, most NSG'ers think Clinton won and I agree. This week and the last couple weeks haven't been the Donalds best, he could step up his game.

I'm not sure how a campaign recovers once their candidate has been caught on tape bragging about assaulting women and getting by with it by virtue of being a star. Then again Trump has had dozens of scandals that should have sunk the bastard.

same way the DNC recovered after screwing over millions of Bernie voters and having staff step down.