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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
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61%
Donald Trump (Republican)
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31%
Draw
11
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Total votes : 133

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Postby Gyrenaica » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:05 am

I hate both but I gotta say Trump was a total savage last night. :rofl:

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:05 am



It's a fair evaluation of Clinton and Trump.
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Postby Trumpostan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:07 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Oh they think he won the debate yesterday night.

Der Donald siegt an allen Fronten.


The media might be besieging Trump Tower but the great Donald has simply lured them into a giant trap, with an imminent counter offensive. Now where is Fegelein? I mean Bannon?
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:08 am

Nebraska's governor cancels fundraiser with Pence. He cites a "...lack of interest in the donor community in Nebraska for the Trump-Pence fundraiser."

I wonder what that means.

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:10 am

Trumpostan wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Der Donald siegt an allen Fronten.


The media might be besieging Trump Tower but the great Donald has simply lured them into a giant trap, with an imminent counter offensive. Now where is Fegelein? I mean Bannon?

There's a joke I haven't heard in a long time. :lol2:
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Postby Zitrone » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:12 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
One of us watched what happened yesterday night.

The other came from an alternate dimension where they went easy on Clinton.

I think they could've been tougher on her by asking non-email related questions. They did not do that, unfortunately.

But yeah, I don't think they were overly deferential towards her.

To be fair, undecided voters are likely to be mostly moderates and centrists, a base Clinton can more easily appeal to, so Trump was really going to have an uphill battle in that debate. (That's his fault alone, though. He spent two seconds, if even, on each question before switching gears to attack Clinton.)
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:16 am

Gyrenaica wrote:I hate both but I gotta say Trump was a total savage last night. :rofl:


What was the weird stalking behaviour about? He knew there were cameras, right?
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:19 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:I hate both but I gotta say Trump was a total savage last night. :rofl:


What was the weird stalking behaviour about? He knew there were cameras, right?


Well once you've admitted to being a sexual predator you might as well act like a predator.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:23 am

Khadgar wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
What was the weird stalking behaviour about? He knew there were cameras, right?


Well once you've admitted to being a sexual predator you might as well act like a predator.


I examined it over and over, and cannot come up with a single explanation that doesn't involve trying to intimidate by creating an aura of physical threat. So, it's a serious question.

It's just weird behaviour - in any situation. Even weirder in a debate.
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Postby Little Flowers » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:24 am

Thanks to Donald Chump's breaking news that Bill Clinton was a womanizer, Bill Clinton will not be able to serve a third term as President.

It is a good thing people alleged to be rapists won't be able to be President thanks to the new Chump disclosures.

Who was that fat orangutan lurking behind Hilary's back during the debate?

I am glad that new conditional amendment allows for the next President able to jail their political opponents, or if that fails assassinate them. If that isn't supporting the first and second amendment then I don't know what is.

Once Pence gets off his knees he will support these factual statements.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:26 am

Threlizdun wrote:I think last night was the first time I've ever felt genuine terror about how much influence Trump has managed to acquire. I simply can't even get my head around the idea that openly bragging about repeated incidents of sexual assault somehow doesn't disqualify you for being president. Even if he never did any of it and he was lying to somehow impress Bush by pretending to have sexually assaulted people, the fact that that sort of judgement doesn't disqualify you is almost just a source horrifying. I despise Hillary, but I've never feared for my own safety before like I have with Trump.

its not a pretense, women before this came out described him as doing exactly what he said he did.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:26 am

Little Flowers wrote:Thanks to Donald Chump's breaking news that Bill Clinton was a womanizer, Bill Clinton will not be able to serve a third term as President.

It is a good thing people alleged to be rapists won't be able to be President thanks to the new Chump disclosures.

Who was that fat orangutan lurking behind Hilary's back during the debate?

I am glad that new conditional amendment allows for the next President able to jail their political opponents, or if that fails assassinate them. If that isn't supporting the first and second amendment then I don't know what is.

Once Pence gets off his knees he will support these factual statements.


1. Please don't nickname, it's actually a warnable offense.

2. I didn't know Bill Clinton was running for president, or that he could serve another term into office. I thought the Constitution makes it clear that it was only 2 terms after Roosevelt due to Congress passing a new amendment. I must have read the wrong version of the Constitution for my citizenship test.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:28 am

Little Flowers wrote:Once Pence gets off his knees he will support these factual statements.


Political nicknaming is verboten. Might want to start editing.

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Postby European Guilds » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:31 am

Trumpostan wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Der Donald siegt an allen Fronten.


The media might be besieging Trump Tower but the great Donald has simply lured them into a giant trap, with an imminent counter offensive. Now where is Fegelein? I mean Bannon?

"We can't find Bannon. He is not in Trump Tower."
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:32 am

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Ifreann wrote:One wonders if Guiliani still has that dress, just in case it turns out to be women and children first.


I doubt it will be needed. Concern for women and children from Trump? Ryan might feign concern for political points, but Donald never would and he's the putz in the captain's chair right now.


Trump would be more like the captain of the Costa Concordia.
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Postby Cymrea » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:32 am

Khadgar wrote:Nebraska's governor cancels fundraiser with Pence. He cites a "...lack of interest in the donor community in Nebraska for the Trump-Pence fundraiser."

I wonder what that means.

Maybe no one in Nebraska is interested in paying Trump's legal settlements.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:42 am

Cymrea wrote:
Khadgar wrote:Nebraska's governor cancels fundraiser with Pence. He cites a "...lack of interest in the donor community in Nebraska for the Trump-Pence fundraiser."

I wonder what that means.

Maybe no one in Nebraska is interested in paying Trump's legal settlements.


Amusing to me there's not enough interest in ruby red Nebraska to fill a dining room.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:51 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Oh they think he won the debate yesterday night.

Der Donald siegt an allen Fronten.

In fact, The Donald is going to open up new fronts to win on! Now that winter is setting in the time has finally come to win in Russland!
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Postby The Los Angeles » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:53 am

According to Wikipedia, there are 6 candidates with enough ballot access to win
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So out of these 6, who would you vote for?
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Postby European Guilds » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:54 am

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politic ... 65182.html

"Miami’s Latin Builders Association, which bills itself as the nation’s largest Hispanic construction group, has endorsed Hillary Clinton, the first time anyone can remember the conservative-leaning, largely Cuban-American organization backing a Democrat for president."

Good job, Donald.

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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:55 am

Khadgar wrote:Amusing to me there's not enough interest in ruby red Nebraska to fill a dining room.

About the only thing I know about Nebraska is that my grandma was from there...

But there's an actually weird and interesting story about it. My grandma on my dads side in from Nebraska, and my GREAT grandma from my moms side is as well....and they both graduated from the same high school....in a town of 100 people. No, I'm not joking. There's literally a "Yearbook" with both of their names in it. One of the weirdest coincidences I know.

My grandpa on my dads side on the other hand is from Kansas.

Neither state ever seemed remotely interesting for me to visit. I'm sure there's something interesting in Nebraska, but I certainly don't know it. All I know is that I'm probably moving to Colorado someday, and my grandparents on my moms side to Kentucky, and to visit them, I have to drive through the straight, torturous hell of Nebraska and my already low opinion of the state will likely not increase much at all.
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Postby Implacable Death » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:55 am

If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:58 am

Implacable Death wrote:If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:58 am

Implacable Death wrote:If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk?

No.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:59 am

Implacable Death wrote:If I profess my undying love for Clinton, can I join your circlejerk? It seems fun!
Well if you promise to post only things applicable to this reality.

Implacable Death wrote:Really, though, it's good to see so many people being this politically active. It's just a shame it's for the wrong person. I mean, all you'd get with Hillary is more Obama and he was terrible to begin with.


Well so much for that thought.

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