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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
81
61%
Donald Trump (Republican)
41
31%
Draw
11
8%
 
Total votes : 133
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:17 pm

Trump says terrorists are 'praying' Clinton gets elected.

Back here in reality, ISIS actually supports Trump.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:18 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/3LpD3
This is my prediction.

Why do you think Trump will win an EV in Maine?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... t/maine-2/
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Postby The Pris0ner » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:23 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/3LpD3
This is my prediction.


Worst case for Clinton, take NV and FL red. She still wins with 287. I could see her losing NC, but not in combination with OH, FL & NV. Even then she still wins.

As for the 269 map somebody put up, NH isn't going red and that is backed by just about every poll taken in NH. Not happening.
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:26 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Why do you think Trump will win an EV in Maine?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... t/maine-2/



It's a combination of a significant protest vote for Johnson by disaffected Bernie supporters, and rural rednecks who legitimately like Trump (two dozen years ago they liked Perot). But yes, it's almost certain now that Trump takes my district (ME-2).
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Postby The Pris0ner » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:33 pm

Candidate for political cartoon of the week...

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Postby New West Guiana » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
Back here in reality, ISIS actually supports Trump.


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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:36 pm

Maineiacs wrote:



It's a combination of a significant protest vote for Johnson by disaffected Bernie supporters, and rural rednecks who legitimately like Trump (two dozen years ago they liked Perot). But yes, it's almost certain now that Trump takes my district (ME-2).

I see. Interesting.
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Postby The Pris0ner » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:40 pm

Political cartoons of the week... This one just may be a touch better!

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Postby Corrian » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:42 pm

I think it's a good thing I no longer live in Caribou, Maine. I have a feeling the likely Trump support up there would drive me crazy.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:49 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:

So what? Pete Wilson did it in the Nineties.

We see how well that worked out for the California Republicans.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:52 pm

Corrian wrote:I think it's a good thing I no longer live in Caribou, Maine. I have a feeling the likely Trump support up there would drive me crazy.


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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:55 pm


Maybe under Trump we'll fight the apocalyptic battle in the desert dressed as Romans against ISIS dudes on horses and camels.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:55 pm

The Pris0ner wrote:Political cartoons of the week... This one just may be a touch better!

(Image)

:lol2:
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:57 pm

The Pris0ner wrote:Political cartoons of the week... This one just may be a touch better!



If it's going to be just one a week, OK, but two on the same page you should use the spoiler.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:58 pm

Can the poll add a "someone else started it" option?
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:00 pm

Eol Sha wrote:Can the poll add a "someone else started it" option?


I voted don't-know/Hawaii ... who started it in your opinion?
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:05 pm

Eol Sha wrote:Can the poll add a "someone else started it" option?


That would fall under "Other". I'd love to hear your explanation for who you think started it though, and that goes for everyone if they answer "other".

The only reason the question exists as it does is because that's how it's being posed in the mainstream media. Hillary vs Trump. That encompasses not only them, but their supporters and surrogates as well.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:09 pm

Hillary's supporters started it in 08, so other I guess?
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:09 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Can the poll add a "someone else started it" option?


I voted don't-know/Hawaii ... who started it in your opinion?

From what I've heard, mainly on NSG so it probably isn't credible, the birther stuff possibly began before Barack Obama became a Senator. Beyond that, though, I think it was the right-wing that originally began it. Not Trump, though. I think he just jumped on the bandwagon. I couldn't give an individual's identity, but I think "someone else" is more specific than "I don't know". Basically, I'm asking for the addition because I do have an idea of who is behind the birther stuff. Not as specific as Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, but not as vague as "I don't know".
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:11 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Can the poll add a "someone else started it" option?


That would be fall under "Other". I'd love to hear your explanation for who you think started it though, and that goes for everyone if they answer "other".

The only reason the question exists as it does is because that's how it's being posed in the mainstream media. Hillary vs Trump. That encompasses not only them, but their supporters and surrogates as well.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2011/04/birtherism_is_dead_long_live_birtherism.html
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:11 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Can the poll add a "someone else started it" option?


That would fall under "Other". I'd love to hear your explanation for who you think started it though, and that goes for everyone if they answer "other".

The only reason the question exists as it does is because that's how it's being posed in the mainstream media. Hillary vs Trump. That encompasses not only them, but their supporters and surrogates as well.

I didn't see "Other", but, all the same, I'm still asking for the addition.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:14 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:
That would fall under "Other". I'd love to hear your explanation for who you think started it though, and that goes for everyone if they answer "other".

The only reason the question exists as it does is because that's how it's being posed in the mainstream media. Hillary vs Trump. That encompasses not only them, but their supporters and surrogates as well.

I didn't see "Other", but, all the same, I'm still asking for the addition.


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Postby Socialist Nordia » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:16 pm

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-s ... -movement/
This article covers the origins of birtherism quite well. Regardless, Trump was at the forefront of the movement for a long time and really catapulted its popularity. Neither started it though.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:19 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I didn't see "Other", but, all the same, I'm still asking for the addition.


Understood, and Granted.

Thank you. :)
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Hillary's supporters started it in 08, so other I guess?


Are you joking, or do you actually believe that?
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