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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
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Donald Trump (Republican)
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:28 am

Khadgar wrote:You know so far the only thing the 2016 race has really done is make me miss Mitt Romney. He had policies and principals even though I disagreed with him he was at least sane. He was also a lying bastard but compared to Donald he's honest as the day is long.

Who was it said the campaign wouldn't be run by fact checkers? I don't remember if it was a Romney talking head or Palin.

Is it wrong to admit that I miss Mitt, too?

I wouldn't want him as President, but I wouldn't be anywhere near as worried if he won than Trump. And, in truth, he probably WOULD have beaten Hillary, if it had come to that.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:40 am

Major-Tom wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/oB9BB

My predictions.



You think Trump will win, then?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:41 am

Major-Tom wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/oB9BB

My predictions.


Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:43 am

Valaran wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/oB9BB

My predictions.



You think Trump will win, then?


I'd say its 50-50. All depends on if Trump can clinch NH, Nevada, and Florida. I see Ohio and Iowa as likely Trump, but those 3 states are hella important. The only other route to a Trump victory would be a win in Colorado, and a loss in NH, which he could do.

I don't see him winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Virginia, if we can be real, so he has a path to victory, and I'd say its about 50-50 right now fam.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:43 am

Trump makes fun of Harry Reid's eye injury. Why do you hate the elderly, Donald?
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:44 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/oB9BB

My predictions.


Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.


Even now, Clinton could win, it all boils down to the number of protest votes for Johnson and some small swing states.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:46 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.


Even now, Clinton could win, it all boils down to the number of protest votes for Johnson and some small swing states.


She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:47 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Even now, Clinton could win, it all boils down to the number of protest votes for Johnson and some small swing states.


She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.


Definitely not going to celebrate if either trump or hillary wins.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:48 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.


Definitely not going to celebrate if either trump or hillary wins.


Maybe McMullin will save us :lol:
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Postby Mark Ames 2 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Even now, Clinton could win, it all boils down to the number of protest votes for Johnson and some small swing states.


She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.

Basically Donald was going to win all along I knew it.

Basically the establishment is immoral because of globlization and neoliberalism and because of that we all now have to accept that donald trump is a necessary evil. Anyone who doesn't is a dickwad.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Definitely not going to celebrate if either trump or hillary wins.


Maybe McMullin will save us :lol:


Definitely.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:49 am

It would be a damning comment if a documented bullshit and con artist who makes up facts on the spot ends up winning.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.

Basically Donald was going to win all along I knew it.
Basically the establishment is immoral because of globlization and neoliberalism and because of that we all now have to accept that donald trump is a necessary evil. Anyone who doesn't is a dickwad.

Count me in as a dickwad then. I will NEVER accept fascism as necessary. :roll:
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Even now, Clinton could win, it all boils down to the number of protest votes for Johnson and some small swing states.


She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.

I don't think Trump can keep on this path. He's been able to avoid major controversies for the past three weeks, but given his past history and the fact that he won't have a teleprompter during the debates - he will screw up.
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Postby Sarkerland » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Valaran wrote:

You think Trump will win, then?


I'd say its 50-50. All depends on if Trump can clinch NH, Nevada, and Florida. I see Ohio and Iowa as likely Trump, but those 3 states are hella important. The only other route to a Trump victory would be a win in Colorado, and a loss in NH, which he could do.

I don't see him winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Virginia, if we can be real, so he has a path to victory, and I'd say its about 50-50 right now fam.


I'd say Colorado or NM is more likely to go Trump than NH (though I haven't recently looked at the state polls). I see Iowa as fairly Trump too, and possibly Ohio as well. Florida... is tricky to work out. And yeah, I don't see him winning those other states.

I will say that I don't see it as 50/50 though. Hillary is still the front-runner, just not by any comfortable degree.
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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

Major-Tom wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/oB9BB

My predictions.


I don't like that my state South Carolina is going solidly Trump. It's not surprising, but he's Trump.
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Postby Atramentar » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.


Definitely not going to celebrate if either trump or hillary wins.

Agreed, but as much as I dislike Hillary, I would take her over Trump in a New York minute.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:50 am

Gauthier wrote:It would be a damning comment if a documented bullshit and con artist who makes up facts on the spot ends up winning.

It'll prove I was right to call Americans irredeemable idiots.
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Postby Mark Ames 2 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:51 am

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
Mark Ames 2 wrote:Basically Donald was going to win all along I knew it.
Basically the establishment is immoral because of globlization and neoliberalism and because of that we all now have to accept that donald trump is a necessary evil. Anyone who doesn't is a dickwad.

Count me in as a dickwad then. I will NEVER accept fascism as necessary. :roll:

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I don't because I like to brag about sexual exploitation, I'm down to earth like them.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:52 am

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Gauthier wrote:It would be a damning comment if a documented bullshit and con artist who makes up facts on the spot ends up winning.

It'll prove I was right to call Americans irredeemable idiots.

Hey now. Uncalled for.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:52 am

Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.


In the history of gaffes its nothing to really speak of. I prefer to disagree with Johnson due to his policy positions.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:53 am

Valaran wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I'd say its 50-50. All depends on if Trump can clinch NH, Nevada, and Florida. I see Ohio and Iowa as likely Trump, but those 3 states are hella important. The only other route to a Trump victory would be a win in Colorado, and a loss in NH, which he could do.

I don't see him winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Virginia, if we can be real, so he has a path to victory, and I'd say its about 50-50 right now fam.


I'd say Colorado or NM is more likely to go Trump than NH (though I haven't recently looked at the state polls). I see Iowa as fairly Trump too, and possibly Ohio as well. Florida... is tricky to work out. And yeah, I don't see him winning those other states.

I will say that I don't see it as 50/50 though. Hillary is still the front-runner, just not by any comfortable degree.


Eh, NM is a lost cause, its a blue state through and through because of its Latino population. As for NH, Clinton is ahead 3-5 points in aggregate polling.

When it comes down to it, it is very close, and Clinton has to capture Colorado and several other swing states to make sure she wins.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:53 am

Geilinor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
She could I won't deny that, but if Trump keeps on this current path he's been on he should win it.

I don't think Trump can keep on this path. He's been able to avoid major controversies for the past three weeks, but given his past history and the fact that he won't have a teleprompter during the debates - he will screw up.


He's been on it for a month now and only gaining, I won't deny he could screw up but it seems less likely by the day.

Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.


Because I'm either voting Johnson or Trump and I'd rather not do the second.
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