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Who Won Tonight's Townhall in Your Opinion?

Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
81
61%
Donald Trump (Republican)
41
31%
Draw
11
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Total votes : 133

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Postby Tectonix » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:18 pm

Pax Mongolica wrote:Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

"Empire"? The United States hasn't formally expanded its borders since the Guano Islands Act-(yes, that's its real name), and I can't think of a single reason why Hillary would WANT to do that.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:18 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
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Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.


It is sometimes fatal, by 'comorbidity'. Basically if someone is very ill anyway the pneumonia can finish them off.

There might be a bright side to this: if Clinton recovers fully in the two weeks before the first debate, that proves she's not in poor health generally.


That's the same thing I am thinking. Clinton's physical health would be out of the question if she manages to have a speedy recovery.
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Postby Pax Mongolica » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pax Mongolica wrote:Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?

Back in my day, civilians would submit to the conquering force's rule or perish.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:18 pm

Tectonix wrote:
Pax Mongolica wrote:Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

"Empire"? The United States hasn't formally expanded its borders since the Guano Islands Act-(yes, that's its real name), and I can't think of a single reason why Hillary would WANT to do that.

One of my favorite act names, btw. :)
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:19 pm

The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?


Frankly, wouldn't we get that with either candidate?

Yes, but only one has come out in favor of murdering women and children.
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:19 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pax Mongolica wrote:Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?


In character as Genghis Khan, I imagine he does. :eyebrow:
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:Trump is losing to Gary Johnson and tied with Jill stein in the poll. Wow.

It won't last his supporters will come


Yep, although Stein has a better chance here than in the macro-world of RL.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:20 pm

Galloism wrote:
Tectonix wrote:"Empire"? The United States hasn't formally expanded its borders since the Guano Islands Act-(yes, that's its real name), and I can't think of a single reason why Hillary would WANT to do that.

One of my favorite act names, btw. :)

I love GPCgray's video on it.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:One of my favorite act names, btw. :)

I love GPCgray's video on it.

I have not seen this.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:21 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
It is sometimes fatal, by 'comorbidity'. Basically if someone is very ill anyway the pneumonia can finish them off.

There might be a bright side to this: if Clinton recovers fully in the two weeks before the first debate, that proves she's not in poor health generally.


That's the same thing I am thinking. Clinton's physical health would be out of the question if she manages to have a speedy recovery.

What part of this elections has lead you to believe that something like facts will stop people attacking Clinton?
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:21 pm

New Zepuha wrote:What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?


Not going to happen. Pneumonia's not too bad. She looks like she'll leave active campaigning to her surrogates for 2-3 days and be back.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:21 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
That's the same thing I am thinking. Clinton's physical health would be out of the question if she manages to have a speedy recovery.

What part of this elections has lead you to believe that something like facts will stop people attacking Clinton?

"Wishful thinking"
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:22 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?


In character as Genghis Khan, I imagine he does. :eyebrow:

I didn't see that, where does it say that they are IC'ly Genghis Khan?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:23 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
That's the same thing I am thinking. Clinton's physical health would be out of the question if she manages to have a speedy recovery.

What part of this elections has lead you to believe that something like facts will stop people attacking Clinton?


Nothing whatsoever, but hey, one can have hope, right?
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:23 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:No she won't. Pneumonia doesn't last forever. She'll be back on the trail soon enough.


Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail and can definitely become a campaign ender. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.


It can be...but I saw her briefly answering questions and she doesn't look too ill. Tired, probably, but I think she got lucky.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:23 pm

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I love GPCgray's video on it.

I have not seen this.

For your viewing pleasure
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:24 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What part of this elections has lead you to believe that something like facts will stop people attacking Clinton?


Nothing whatsoever, but hey, one can have hope, right?

One can certainly try.
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Postby The East Marches » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:24 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:No she won't. Pneumonia doesn't last forever. She'll be back on the trail soon enough.


Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail and can definitely become a campaign ender. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.


I got it once when I was 17. I was fully fit and in the best health of my life. It rekt me for a week. I can only imagine how bad it must be for her at her age. I would not wish that on somebody.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:24 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What part of this elections has lead you to believe that something like facts will stop people attacking Clinton?


Nothing whatsoever, but hey, one can have hope, right?


Nope. Tried Hope and Change once, was disappointed.
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Postby Arcipelago » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The United Territories of Providence wrote:
Frankly, wouldn't we get that with either candidate?

Yes, but only one has come out in favor of murdering women and children.

I have no idea which candidate your talking about. This sums up why this presidential election is bad.
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Postby Ebliania » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:27 pm

Arcipelago wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes, but only one has come out in favor of murdering women and children.

I have no idea which candidate your talking about. This sums up why this presidential election is bad.

:rofl:

so true

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:27 pm

Arcipelago wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes, but only one has come out in favor of murdering women and children.

I have no idea which candidate your talking about. This sums up why this presidential election is bad.

It would be Trump. Who said that we should kill the families of terrorists and other ne'er-do-wells
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Galloism wrote:I have not seen this.

For your viewing pleasure

This is quite humorous.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:30 pm

What is the word count limit on a post? I'm currently working on a geopolitical-related argument re: HRC vs Trump.

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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
In character as Genghis Khan, I imagine he does. :eyebrow:

I didn't see that, where does it say that they are IC'ly Genghis Khan?


All three of Pax Mongolica's posts. Particularly this:

Pax Mongolica wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?

Back in my day, civilians would submit to the conquering force's rule or perish.


It's just a noob who doesn't realize General is Out Of Character only.

Hopefully they're now wised-up and won't get warned for advocating death ...
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