US General Election Thread IV: The Beginning of the End

[Jerzylvania]

We are a bit under two months out. Maybe on October 9th reset the poll and get a last 30 day look?

It's likely we'd still fit in one more thread by November.

Yeah, you're right. And if it gets even crazier (oh yeah!) another one besides that.

[The United Territories of Providence]

I voted "don't change the poll" ... only because I don't know what "change the poll" would be a vote for. What is proposed?

If the intention is for people to use one vote among candidates/other/undecided, and the other vote for change/don't-change, that should be made more explicit. As it is, some people will do that while others will vote their first and second preferences of candidates (which absolutely is going to inflate the Johnson, Stein and McMullin figures). Messy that, because there's no way to distinguish a first preference vote which would count in a real election and a second preference vote which wouldn't.

The way I'd change the poll is to get rid of the last two options (change/don't-change) and go back to one vote per user. Unambitious of me perhaps.

The proposal is that instead of reflecting only candidate prefences, or reflecting them at all, a question would be posed relating to the electorate, a current event, or an opinion on something. For example.

"How would you rate the effectiveness of the Trump Campaign?"

"What is Your Number 1 Issue in this election?"

"What is more bothersome, Trump's refusal to release his Taxes or Clinton's refusal to release Wall Street Speeches?"

"Which candidate would better handle Foreign Policy?"

"How enthusiastic are you about voting for your candidate?"

"Donald Trump recently said "insert quote", Do you agree or Disagree with that sentiment?"

"Hillary Clinton recently promised to "insert policy", Do you agree or disagree this proposal?"

Or something like that.

I suppose I should make that more clear

[Thermodolia]

You did forget the ironically named Constitution Bible Party guy

That's more like it.

Ain't that the truth

[New Zepuha]

What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?

[Socialist Nordia]

What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?

No she won't. Pneumonia doesn't last forever. She'll be back on the trail soon enough.

[The Liberated Territories]

It's likely we'd still fit in one more thread by November.

Yeah, you're right. And if it gets even crazier (oh yeah!) another one besides that.

Well we are already on the second page, so yeah.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's likely we'd still fit in one more thread by November.

Yeah, you're right. And if it gets even crazier (oh yeah!) another one besides that.

If?!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?

Not really seeing it unless her condition worsens.

[Thermodolia]

What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?

That speculation is just that, speculation. Well that and a good helping of bullshit

[Thermodolia]

Yeah, you're right. And if it gets even crazier (oh yeah!) another one besides that.

Well we are already on the second page, so yeah.

Well most of it is just filler related to the thread and not the election

[Tectonix]

Annd...Thread transfer.

[Hittanryan]

On the Trump Train, choo choo bitches, we be charging through your towns

Yes, having jumped the tracks, derailed, and having its air brakes fail, the Trump Train instead plows through many local communities, utterly destroying them and leaving behind a cloud of hot air and bullshit.

[Galloism]

What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?

That speculation is just that, speculation. Well that and a good helping of bullshit

Hillary would run from the ICU and project a hologram onto the debate stage. She wants this - bad.

[Tectonix]

On the Trump Train, choo choo bitches, we be charging through your towns

Yes, having jumped the tracks, derailed, and having its air brakes fail, the Trump Train instead plows through many local communities, utterly destroying them and leaving behind a cloud of hot air and bullshit.

Don't forget rejected calls for eminent domain to take away the houses in the way.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

What say you on the speculation that Hillary may drop due to health issues?

No she won't. Pneumonia doesn't last forever. She'll be back on the trail soon enough.

Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail and can definitely become a campaign ender. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.

[Thermodolia]

That speculation is just that, speculation. Well that and a good helping of bullshit

Hillary would run from the ICU and project a hologram onto the debate stage. She wants this - bad.

She'd transfer her conscious to an android if she could do it.

[Pax Mongolica]

Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

[Galloism]

Hillary would run from the ICU and project a hologram onto the debate stage. She wants this - bad.

She'd transfer her conscious to an android if she could do it.

Vote for The Terminator Hillary!

[Thermodolia]

No she won't. Pneumonia doesn't last forever. She'll be back on the trail soon enough.

Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.

However pneumonia can and does differ from person to person. For some it knocks them on their back and for others not so much.

[Thermodolia]

Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?

[AiliailiA]

No she won't. Pneumonia doesn't last forever. She'll be back on the trail soon enough.

Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.

It is sometimes fatal, by 'comorbidity'. Basically if someone is very ill anyway the pneumonia can finish them off.

There might be a bright side to this: if Clinton recovers fully in the two weeks before the first debate, that proves she's not in poor health generally.

[The United Territories of Providence]

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE BOTTOM OF THE OP

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Pneumonia can get much worse and bed-rid you for a good while.

I'd say it is definitely something that can ruin her campaign trail. Pneumonia is not this light thing that you can recover so easily from. It's a major issue, it's just not a terminal issue.

However pneumonia can and does differ from person to person. For some it knocks them on their back and for others not so much.

Hence why I deliberately said it was a major issue.

It is a bad thing, it's just not terminal, meaning you're going to die or something and you're SOL.

[The United Territories of Providence]

Immigration: Hillary has the much better plan
Trade: Hillary is better
Social issues: Trump
Foreign policy: Trump is great on torture, but I hate isolationism. Only Hillary will be able to lay waste to cities and expand the influence of her empire

So you approve of the wholesale murder of innocent civilians?

Frankly, wouldn't we get that with either candidate?

[Communal Ecotopia]

I was a Bernie guy during the primaries, and firmly so, but now ImWithHer because the math is just unfathomable for Stein. The Greens are closer to my own positions, yes, but to build a real Green presence, you don't shoot for the Presidency or Senate. You spend years on city councils, state representatives and senators, and, maybe, a select US House seat or two if it's an open seat in a favorable area. Otherwise you're just tossing close seats to the GOP.