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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:46 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm just saying, if the area is literally designated like that,it's gonna create tension. I'm sure soon the white folks in the dormitory will be subtly pressured to leave if not outright told. Residents will likely be more wary of white visitors as well, probably a few will be protesters against the idea and then there will be a general distrust.
Segregation breeds mistrust. Even with white residents living there, it will still encourage an "us vs them" mentality

[Citation needed] The article says this happens in other places and races so...these effects if they happen should have been noticed.

I'm going on life experience. You segregate people, they aint never gonna get along.
It just breeds distrust. Sorry I have to use some basic knowledge rather then some book learning, but if you tell green people not live with blue people, the green people are gonna get mad.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:50 pm

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Uiiop wrote:The response would be different but i don't see why not other than the fact White are just likely over here to have problems due to race. Doesn't mean we have to treat him like evil people and act outraged for it though.


Yeah, it does. Race is quite possibly the stupidest invention humanity has, and it is a perversion when people perpetuate it.

Also someone possibly being a hypocrite doesn't make them wrong in one instance. So...your line of argument is flawed and doesn't really prove or disprove anything.


That makes no sense. Saying that someone's argument is flawed because they are calling someone out as a hypocrite doesn't well, prove or disprove anything. I'm simply calling someone out as a hypocrite and perpetuating the illusion of race.

1. Depends on what you mean...it's only a problem when people view people as lesser for it. Race is kinda loose defintion wise. Some people just treat like superficial appearance and not anything to gloat over. It was originally just for people with the same tounge then nationality before all the BS came in.
2. you really didn't show the illusion of race in that argument. It's probably not your intention but it sounded more like white and blacks suffer just as much due to the race in this context.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:51 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Uiiop wrote:[Citation needed] The article says this happens in other places and races so...these effects if they happen should have been noticed.

I'm going on life experience. You segregate people, they aint never gonna get along.
It just breeds distrust. Sorry I have to use some basic knowledge rather then some book learning, but if you tell green people not live with blue people, the green people are gonna get mad.

But you haven't really prove it's segregation......you just said it will segregate because of the segregation. This just sounds to me like circular logic.
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Postby Balkenreich » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:52 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm going on life experience. You segregate people, they aint never gonna get along.
It just breeds distrust. Sorry I have to use some basic knowledge rather then some book learning, but if you tell green people not live with blue people, the green people are gonna get mad.

But you haven't really prove it's segregation......you just said it will segregate because of the segregation. This just sounds to me like circular logic.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:53 pm

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Uiiop wrote:But you haven't really prove it's segregation......you just said it will segregate because of the segregation. This just sounds to me like circular logic.

Yeah that's what it sounds to me. Your point?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:58 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm going on life experience. You segregate people, they aint never gonna get along.
It just breeds distrust. Sorry I have to use some basic knowledge rather then some book learning, but if you tell green people not live with blue people, the green people are gonna get mad.

But you haven't really prove it's segregation......you just said it will segregate because of the segregation. This just sounds to me like circular logic.

Because it sounds like segregation. I'm sorry that segregation sounds like segregating to me
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:01 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Uiiop wrote:But you haven't really prove it's segregation......you just said it will segregate because of the segregation. This just sounds to me like circular logic.

Because it sounds like segregation. I'm sorry that segregation sounds like segregating to me

Admittedly I'm not exactly comfortable with myself but it's sounds in excution better than normal if that is indeed the case. I mean it sounds other have applied equally and is more focused about community other than skin color. The people who i'm mentioned will probably have contact with the others over there so i don't see how that would change. You may be right but i just can't accept anecdotal for evidence.
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Postby Aelex » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:07 pm

At one point can one start to think that more racism is the answer to the problem of racism?
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Postby Jamzmania » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:08 pm

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The New Sea Territory wrote:Hey everyone, let's just get outraged at the social studies warriors and their ebul agenda. No one pay attention to why the Black Student Union feels this is necessary, or what conditions lead to this situation, and how it could have been otherwise handled.

These threads get really fucking annoying and predictable. We need a megathread for these sorts of outrage-threads so all the self-aggrandizing circlejerks and buzzwordry can be confined to one place.


This.
Living in Europea I'm not into such sort of things, since situation is different here, but I just think that if black students feel the need of a safe space then they deserve a safe space. As long as it's an option and not mandatory, it cannot be "segregation".

It is mandatory. Whites cannot live in these black-only dorms.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:11 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
This.
Living in Europea I'm not into such sort of things, since situation is different here, but I just think that if black students feel the need of a safe space then they deserve a safe space. As long as it's an option and not mandatory, it cannot be "segregation".

It is mandatory. Whites cannot live in these black-only dorms.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/09/07/csula- ... d-housing/ That's not true.
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Postby Jamzmania » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:22 pm

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Jamzmania wrote:It is mandatory. Whites cannot live in these black-only dorms.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/09/07/csula- ... d-housing/ That's not true.

Well if so, then I'll take it back.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:25 pm

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Well if so, then I'll take it back.

One of the articles said anyone can attend so it is so.
Now one of the other people have said that due to how it's setup that the group in the area will self-segregate but they exactly have evidence for that.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:40 pm

Remind me when optional segregation last worked?

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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:57 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:Remind me when optional segregation last worked?

Some time before apparently since other races had similar stuff going on.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:04 pm

I disagree with any form of segregation, but if the African American population at the university feels the need to have a place to themselves, then there very well might be a larger problem with racial hostility there that must be addressed in other ways.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:05 pm

You beat me to it.

Can't wait to see the butthurt PC liberals defend this bullshit.
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Postby Balkenreich » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:08 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:I disagree with any form of segregation, but if the African American population at the university feels the need to have a place to themselves, then there very well might be a larger problem with racial hostility there that must be addressed in other ways.

"Segregation is good when Black people want it."
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:09 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:I disagree with any form of segregation, but if the African American population at the university feels the need to have a place to themselves, then there very well might be a larger problem with racial hostility there that must be addressed in other ways.

"Segregation is good when Black people want it."

I didn't say I supported it. I just said I didn't. I'm just saying the larger problem is that things are bad enough that they want to be discriminated.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:10 pm

Balkenreich wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:I disagree with any form of segregation, but if the African American population at the university feels the need to have a place to themselves, then there very well might be a larger problem with racial hostility there that must be addressed in other ways.

"Segregation is good when Black people want it."

Of course. After all, you can't be racist against white people.

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Postby Imperial Union of America » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:20 pm

I believe in ethnic cleansing in order to assure ethnic homogeneity.

Multi culturalism looks like Detroit and Miami is a shit hole. I think we should deport them to their own lands.
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Postby Arkadacia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:23 pm

Well, that's utterly pleasant.

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Postby Xadufell » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:24 pm

Black only safe spaces?

"No, no, that's all fine! Black power!"

White only safe spaces?

"RACISM! NAZIS!"

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:26 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:I believe in ethnic cleansing in order to assure ethnic homogeneity.

Multi culturalism looks like Detroit and Miami is a shit hole. I think we should deport them to their own lands.
Ever been to baltimore?

I'll have you know Miami is just fine. >:(
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:27 pm

Xadufell wrote:Black only safe spaces?

"No, no, that's all fine! Black power!"

White only safe spaces?

"RACISM! NAZIS!"

Thanks, The Left.

Except it isn't Black only and other places that are for whites exist and have been accepted.
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