NationStates

Shofercia wrote:

Community Values wrote:
You saying that in certain parts of Europe can get you beaten up. Me saying this in certain parts of Europe will get me beat up. Me saying anything will get me beat up in certain parts of Europe. It's a non-issue. Anyways, is there a case where someone denied the holocaust and then got killed because of that reason?

Goalpost shift detected. Alert. Alert!

Your initial claim was: Holocaust denial does not kill people, under no circumstances. Claiming you have a bomb does have a chance.

Now you're heroically shifting goal posts to: is there a case where someone denied the holocaust and then got killed because of that reason?

Do you actually not see how that's shifting goal posts? And if that's a non-issue, why is shouting "bomb" at an airport in the US an issue? Are you simply not expressing your Freedom of Speech? You're not saying "he's going to blow up!" You're simply whispering "that cartoon is da..." and shouting "...bomb!" Every airport I've been to has numerous entrances and exits, and unless you're in the NSA line, you can exit without knocking anyone over. If you are in the NSA line, the NSA should do their job and prevent panic. Either way, shouting "bomb" at an airport should not lead to death. Can you tell me when shouting "bomb" at an airport led to death?

Didn't need to be so rude about it. And I do concede that it may kill someone, in some circumstances. But, can you answer my original question?

Socialist Nordia wrote:You make it seem like Germany is some sort of distopian hellhole.

Well, as someone who is against Nazism and very much an oponent of Hitler and what he stands for, Germany is declining in that. The whole of the "European" Union is,
It is a simple goal really: create an americanized society without pride in their identity and without political choice.
Parties which actually could improve Germany, like the AfD and to some extend Die Linke, are marginalised by the capitalist lapdogs which are the CDU, SPD and Greens. Of course it is a problem of the whole west. When we have gotten to the point that, especially on this libertarian infested forum, we hear idiots oppossing the burqa ban, pushing for drug legalization, and whatnot.
Not to forget that there is the whole thing going on to try to shame Europeans for things like colonialisation instead of Europeans taking pride in bringing civilization to the Americas, subsaharan Africa and Australia.

>SED
>Improve Germany
Your hankerings for the Arch-Vandal Ulbricht's party (or what remains of it) is laughable.

Haritopia wrote:

Socialist Nordia wrote:You make it seem like Germany is some sort of distopian hellhole.

Well, as someone who is against Nazism and very much an oponent of Hitler and what he stands for, Germany is declining in that. The whole of the "European" Union is,
It is a simple goal really: create an americanized society without pride in their identity and without political choice.
Parties which actually could improve Germany, like the AfD and to some extend Die Linke, are marginalised by the capitalist lapdogs which are the CDU, SPD and Greens. Of course it is a problem of the whole west. When we have gotten to the point that, especially on this libertarian infested forum, we hear idiots oppossing the burqa ban, pushing for drug legalization, and whatnot.
Not to forget that there is the whole thing going on to try to shame Europeans for things like colonialisation instead of Europeans taking pride in bringing civilization to the Americas, subsaharan Africa and Australia.

This is so true. I'm grateful that Hungary is trying to preserve our culture.

Master Shake wrote:

Haritopia wrote:
Well, as someone who is against Nazism and very much an oponent of Hitler and what he stands for, Germany is declining in that. The whole of the "European" Union is,
It is a simple goal really: create an americanized society without pride in their identity and without political choice.
Parties which actually could improve Germany, like the AfD and to some extend Die Linke, are marginalised by the capitalist lapdogs which are the CDU, SPD and Greens. Of course it is a problem of the whole west. When we have gotten to the point that, especially on this libertarian infested forum, we hear idiots oppossing the burqa ban, pushing for drug legalization, and whatnot.
Not to forget that there is the whole thing going on to try to shame Europeans for things like colonialisation instead of Europeans taking pride in bringing civilization to the Americas, subsaharan Africa and Australia.

This is so true. I'm grateful that Hungary is trying to preserve our culture.

I'd say, the west grew too relaxed and forgot how much it's freedom is worth. Hungary fought for it's freedom in 1956 and got it decades later.
It is no wonder that the worst country in Europe, Sweden, is so unaware of it's doom, they did not go to war for centuries. The Swiss on the other hand are at least aways aware and "tense".

Haritopia wrote:Sweden, is so unaware of it's doom.

So you, a hankerer for the Arch-Vandal Walter Ulbricht are telling me that le apocalypse is here?

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Haritopia wrote:Sweden, is so unaware of it's doom.

So you, a hankerer for the Arch-Vandal Walter Ulbricht are telling me that le apocalypse is here?

No, nations fell and nations rose. To make a big drama out of it makes no sense, yet it is sad.
It is not just sad, but disgusting. It is disgusting to see how children are being let to do sexchanges or whatnot instead of being sent to therapy for having mental issues. It is disgusting to see some junkie anarchist parasite argue how people have the right to wear things like the burqa on our soil. It is sad to see politicans argue for more rights to corporations and less worker rights. And so on....
But it is not that horrible yet.

Haritopia wrote:

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So you, a hankerer for the Arch-Vandal Walter Ulbricht are telling me that le apocalypse is here?

No, nations fell and nations rose. To make a big drama out of it makes no sense, yet it is sad.
It is not just sad, but disgusting. It is disgusting to see how children are being let to do sexchanges or whatnot instead of being sent to therapy for having mental issues. It is disgusting to see some junkie anarchist parasite argue how people have the right to wear things like the burqa on our soil. It is sad to see politicans argue for more rights to corporations and less worker rights. And so on....
But it is not that horrible yet.

Dude, take a chill pill before you start an armed insurrection.

Community Values wrote:

Shofercia wrote:
Goalpost shift detected. Alert. Alert!

Your initial claim was: Holocaust denial does not kill people, under no circumstances. Claiming you have a bomb does have a chance.

Now you're heroically shifting goal posts to: is there a case where someone denied the holocaust and then got killed because of that reason?

Do you actually not see how that's shifting goal posts? And if that's a non-issue, why is shouting "bomb" at an airport in the US an issue? Are you simply not expressing your Freedom of Speech? You're not saying "he's going to blow up!" You're simply whispering "that cartoon is da..." and shouting "...bomb!" Every airport I've been to has numerous entrances and exits, and unless you're in the NSA line, you can exit without knocking anyone over. If you are in the NSA line, the NSA should do their job and prevent panic. Either way, shouting "bomb" at an airport should not lead to death. Can you tell me when shouting "bomb" at an airport led to death?

Didn't need to be so rude about it. And I do concede that it may kill someone, in some circumstances. But, can you answer my original question?

What was your original question? Because in the posts I responded to, there was only one question, that I already implicitly answered.

So, arrested for offending people. Got it.

Fordorsia wrote:So, arrested for offending people. Got it.

Arrested for the second time for breaking the very same law, actually. More than 70 years of history has just gone entirely past this lady like thin air and she still thinks it's 1939. That, or she's purposefully doing this because she believes in everything Himmler & co. believed in, including Aryans in Tibet, the Protocol of the Elders of Zion, the World Jewish Banker Conspiracy and all that shit.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Fordorsia wrote:So, arrested for offending people. Got it.

Arrested for the second time for breaking the very same law, actually. More than 70 years of history has just gone entirely past this lady like thin air and she still thinks it's 1939.

That doesn't really negate what Fordorsia said.

Minzerland II wrote:

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Arrested for the second time for breaking the very same law, actually. More than 70 years of history has just gone entirely past this lady like thin air and she still thinks it's 1939.

That doesn't really negate what Fordorsia said.

I can clearly see how you are attempting, valiantly I may add, to steer this into some sort of "Muh PC Conspiracy" course of discourse. It's not. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, if you aren't German then you should just shut the fuck up about it. And I promise that if you do shut up the world will not, I repeat will not end in some sort of Jewish Apocalypse.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Fordorsia wrote:So, arrested for offending people. Got it.

Arrested for the second time for breaking the very same law, actually. More than 70 years of history has just gone entirely past this lady like thin air and she still thinks it's 1939.

Okay, so?

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I can clearly see how you are attempting, valiantly I may add, to steer this into some sort of "Muh PC Conspiracy" course of discourse. It's not. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, if you aren't German then you should just shut the fuck up about it.

Nationality has nothing to do with protesting blatant violations of Human rights.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Minzerland II wrote:That doesn't really negate what Fordorsia said.

I can clearly see how you are attempting, valiantly I may add, to steer this into some sort of "Muh PC Conspiracy" course of discourse. It's not. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, if you aren't German then you should just shut the fuck up about it. And I promise that if you do shut up the world will not, I repeat will not end in some sort of Jewish Apocalypse.

So much bullshit in a single post. So, so many assumptions and implied fuck offs.

Fordorsia wrote:Nationality has nothing to do with protesting blatant violations of Human rights.

Au contraire, for the average citizen of your average nation, it's a useless self-placating gesture, it will in the end do nothing but offend the citizens of this nation you are attacking. The chances of you convincing their parliament/governing body to take action is astronomically minuscle.

Minzerland II wrote:

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I can clearly see how you are attempting, valiantly I may add, to steer this into some sort of "Muh PC Conspiracy" course of discourse. It's not. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, if you aren't German then you should just shut the fuck up about it. And I promise that if you do shut up the world will not, I repeat will not end in some sort of Jewish Apocalypse.

So much bullshit in a single post. So, so many assumptions and implied fuck offs.

If you Sire, have nothing to add but childish assaults like this then say nothing.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Minzerland II wrote:So much bullshit in a single post. So, so many assumptions and implied fuck offs.

If you Sire, have nothing to add but childish assaults like this then say nothing.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I can clearly see how you are attempting, valiantly I may add, to steer this into some sort of "Muh PC Conspiracy" course of discourse. It's not. Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, if you aren't German then you should just shut the fuck up about it. And I promise that if you do shut up the world will not, I repeat will not end in some sort of Jewish Apocalypse.

Legend:
RED = Assumption
BLUE = Implied 'fuck off'

I don't think I'm the childish one here.

You also haven't disputed what Fordorsia said.

I am telling you, Sire, if rather harshly, that you are basically wasting your breath complaining massively about a nation that hasn't done anything about it's breaches of human rights in 70 years, and that a complaints thread on an online, free nation simulator not hosted in Germany would almost certainly change nothing other than giving yourself a feel-good emotion about supposedly having done something.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I am telling you, Sire, if rather harshly, that you are basically wasting your breath complaining massively about a nation that hasn't done anything about it's breaches of human rights in 70 years, and that a complaints thread on an online, free nation simulator not hosted in Germany would almost certainly change nothing other than giving yourself a feel-good emotion about supposedly having done something.

This is a pitiful reason not to discuss a topic, 'You won't change the situation, so don't talk about.'. If it has been broken for 70 years it ought to be corrected.

Minzerland II wrote:

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I am telling you, Sire, if rather harshly, that you are basically wasting your breath complaining massively about a nation that hasn't done anything about it's breaches of human rights in 70 years, and that a complaints thread on an online, free nation simulator not hosted in Germany would almost certainly change nothing other than giving yourself a feel-good emotion about supposedly having done something.

This is a pitiful reason not to discuss a topic, 'You won't change the situation, so don't talk about.'. If it has been broken for 70 years it ought to be corrected.

Well it won't be corrected if you're not German and spends all your energy complaining about it on this online free nation simulator not hosted in your target nation. But go on, if it pleases you somehow doing feel-good actions then why not.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I am telling you, Sire, if rather harshly, that you are basically wasting your breath complaining massively about a nation that hasn't done anything about it's breaches of human rights in 70 years, and that a complaints thread on an online, free nation simulator not hosted in Germany would almost certainly change nothing other than giving yourself a feel-good emotion about supposedly having done something.

A pitiful argument.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Minzerland II wrote:This is a pitiful reason not to discuss a topic, 'You won't change the situation, so don't talk about.'. If it has been broken for 70 years it ought to be corrected.

Well it won't be corrected if you're not German and spends all your energy complaining about it on this online free nation simulator not hosted in your target nation. But go on, if it pleases you somehow doing feel-good actions then why not.

This is a online forum were people all over the planet discuss topics, if you are unable to discuss a topic because it doesn't happen to be happening near you. I suggest that you cease and desist.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Minzerland II wrote:This is a pitiful reason not to discuss a topic, 'You won't change the situation, so don't talk about.'. If it has been broken for 70 years it ought to be corrected.

Well it won't be corrected if you're not German and spends all your energy complaining about it on this online free nation simulator not hosted in your target nation. But go on, if it pleases you somehow doing feel-good actions then why not.

I don't have the power to change it, now or ever. The best I can do it talk about it. I also, find it hypocritical that you're complaining of my complaints over an online free nation simulator, pretty ironic.

How do you deny the holocaust at age 87? She was alive during it!

The Kerguelen Archipelago wrote:How do you deny the holocaust at age 87?

Very very forcefully. That or she's pushing her agenda.