Talking to women wearing headphones

[Ethel mermania]

No, I said I have seen it happen. I also said the hitter was in the wrong for hitting. What I said is you politely tell the person to go away, ignoring a human being is rude and uncalled for. A person has a right to be a rude asshole, but they should expect to be treated as one.

Bothering people who obviously don't want to be bothered is rude and uncalled for.

IgnorING people is rdue and uncalled for. Wearing headphones is not a universal symbol of please do not talk to me.

This is one of those threads where a "why the fuck are we talking about this bullshit" is appropriate.

[Imperializt Russia]

Bothering people who obviously don't want to be bothered is rude and uncalled for.

IgnorING people is rdue and uncalled for. Wearing headphones is not a universal symbol of please do not talk to me.

This is one of those threads where a "why the fuck are we talking about this bullshit" is appropriate.

Because you think there's a social obligation to coddle twatbaskets.

[Dakini]

Uh...



You might not have said that they deserved it, but you did say that you hoped something like that would happen to Iffy for ignoring someone and then suggested that this was a likely response.

Show me the word "hope", or the implication I hoped it would occur. Argue against what is said not what you make up

I can't show you the word "hope", but I can show you what you said:

Is it indeed? Well suppose some stranger approaches me and I, wearing headphones, ignore them and carry on about my business. What happens? What consequences will I suffer when I fail to show basic courtesy? Will I be sent to prison? Will I be shot? Will I be shunned and cast out from society? Will Cthulhu rise from the sea and begin devouring cultists?

With any luck, yes.

Which is basically the same as "I hope so".

[Ethel mermania]

Yet again, after saying "not interested, no thank you, I have a headache" you can ignore all you want, you have covered your social obligation.

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When you are out and about in society, you do.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

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When you are out and about in society, you do.

Please refer to me any current legal text that suggests that ignoring a man trying to get my attention for frivolous fuckery is in any way, shape, or form illegal or would at least earn me a warning from law enforcement?

[Dakini]

Bothering people who obviously don't want to be bothered is rude and uncalled for.

IgnorING people is rdue and uncalled for.

BotherING people is rude and uncalled for.

Wearing headphones is not a universal symbol of please do not talk to me.

Being busy doing something (like listening to headphones) is totally the universal symbol of "please do not talk to me".

Seriously, I had the most socially awkward officemate ever and even she understood this.

This is one of those threads where a "why the fuck are we talking about this bullshit" is appropriate.

Because
1. Some guy wrote an article instructing men on how to bother women who are wearing headphones to inform them that you would like to put your penis inside them, which prompted people to go "srsly...no"
2. You keep acting like men who bother women when they're busy aren't being rude when they bother these women, but that women who react in any way other than with unflappable kindness are the absolute worst and you wouldn't be surprised if someone punched them for it.

[The Tofu Islands]

1. Some guy wrote an article instructing men on how to bother women who are wearing headphones to inform them that you would like to put your penis inside them, which prompted people to go "srsly...no"

Especially given that said article highlighted "common mistakes" including "allowing the woman to ignore you" and "allowing the woman to take control of the situation". It literally encourages men to see attempts to ignore them as a challenge to prove themselves sufficiently manly.

But no, women with headphones are clearly in the wrong here...

[Dakini]

1. Some guy wrote an article instructing men on how to bother women who are wearing headphones to inform them that you would like to put your penis inside them, which prompted people to go "srsly...no"

Especially given that said article highlighted "common mistakes" including "allowing the woman to ignore you" and "allowing the woman to take control of the situation". It literally encourages men to see attempts to ignore them as a challenge to prove themselves sufficiently manly.

But no, women with headphones are clearly in the wrong here...

Yup. Us women with our headphones and those guys who also don't like being talked to whilst wearing headphones are totally in the wrong.

[Ethel mermania]

Show me the word "hope", or the implication I hoped it would occur. Argue against what is said not what you make up

I can't show you the word "hope", but I can show you what you said:

With any luck, yes.

Which is basically the same as "I hope so".

That was a sarcastci repsonse to a sarcastic comment by iffy, seriously how far are you going to reach.

[Ethel mermania]

IgnorING people is rdue and uncalled for.

BotherING people is rude and uncalled for.

Wearing headphones is not a universal symbol of please do not talk to me.

Being busy doing something (like listening to headphones) is totally the universal symbol of "please do not talk to me".

Seriously, I had the most socially awkward officemate ever and even she understood this.

This is one of those threads where a "why the fuck are we talking about this bullshit" is appropriate.

Because
1. Some guy wrote an article instructing men on how to bother women who are wearing headphones to inform them that you would like to put your penis inside them, which prompted people to go "srsly...no"
2. You keep acting like men who bother women when they're busy aren't being rude when they bother these women, but that women who react in any way other than with unflappable kindness are the absolute worst and you wouldn't be surprised if someone punched them for it.

How many times do we have to go around this, after saying no thank you have every right not to respond again.

I think you have the wrong office person with an issue, because on no planet is wearing headphones a sign of go away, it is merely wearing headphones.

A pick up artist is a jerk, all men are now jerks because someone wrote an asshole article?

[Ethel mermania]

When you are out and about in society, you do.

Please refer to me any current legal text that suggests that ignoring a man trying to get my attention for frivolous fuckery is in any way, shape, or form illegal or would at least earn me a warning from law enforcement?

You can be all the asshole you want to be, that is not against the law, or any part of an arguement I am making

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Please refer to me any current legal text that suggests that ignoring a man trying to get my attention for frivolous fuckery is in any way, shape, or form illegal or would at least earn me a warning from law enforcement?

You can be all the asshole you want to be, that is not against the law, or any part of an arguement I am making

There are no social obligations to appease men who want to bother me.

[Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502]

BotherING people is rude and uncalled for.


Being busy doing something (like listening to headphones) is totally the universal symbol of "please do not talk to me".

Seriously, I had the most socially awkward officemate ever and even she understood this.


Because
1. Some guy wrote an article instructing men on how to bother women who are wearing headphones to inform them that you would like to put your penis inside them, which prompted people to go "srsly...no"
2. You keep acting like men who bother women when they're busy aren't being rude when they bother these women, but that women who react in any way other than with unflappable kindness are the absolute worst and you wouldn't be surprised if someone punched them for it.

How many times do we have to go around this, after saying no thank you have every right not to respond again.

I think you have the wrong office person with an issue, because on no planet is wearing headphones a sign of go away, it is merely wearing headphones.

A pick up artist is a jerk, all men are now jerks because someone wrote an asshole article?

I've totally worn headphones even if nothing's playing on them as a sign of 'don't talk to me'. I don't mean any offense by it, I just don't want to talk to anyone for whatever reason. You can totally try to talk to someone even if they are wearing headphones, but chances are they will find it annoying.

[Novorobo]

Still though, what if how attractive he found her was to be the foundation for a subsequent relationship? One she might have been open to if not for the fact that she interrupted him? Is there any non-creepy alternative to interrupting whatever she's listening to?

If I saw someone and thought they were hot, but they interrupted me whilst I was listening to my headphones or reading a book to hit on me, I would become instantly unattracted to them because of how shitty and inconsiderate they are.

That's kind of why I said "if not for the fact that she interrupted him."

...and now I realize that should have been "he interrupted her." I'll fix that in the OP.

[Crockerland]

Please refer to me any current legal text that suggests that ignoring a man trying to get my attention for frivolous fuckery is in any way, shape, or form illegal or would at least earn me a warning from law enforcement?

You can be all the asshole you want to be, that is not against the law, or any part of an arguement I am making

The only asshole in this situation is the loser bothering strangers and interrupting their activities to hit on them.

[Lady Scylla]

It's uncivil to talk to interrupt people who are doing something in order to hit on them.

If someone else is going to be rude to me, I have no reason to be polite to them. I might choose to be polite to them, but I'm not obliged to.

A simple "I want to go back to my music, book, or videogame" is fine. Ignoring them really is not. The world is not your safe space.

You're not entitled for a reply from someone should you bother them. And anyone willing to punch someone over that seriously has a few screws loose.

[Val Halla]

If you're going to say that I'm obliged to talk to someone who randomly approaches that I don't want to talk to, then my response to the person approaching would not be one they like.

[Saiwania]

If you have headphones, it is easy enough to keep pretending that you didn't hear someone. Ignoring someone when I don't have an excuse like wearing headphones at the moment however, has only gotten me bad results. You might instead get mistaken for being a moron. I could be minding my own business musing over my internal thoughts when I'm interrupted, if I keep walking away or ignore them people often go- "Hey! I'm talking to you? I asked you a question."

Now I do my best to react quickly enough to give a response even if I wasn't listening and don't know what they said instead of blankly staring back like I might've years ago. With extreme introversion, it is more difficult to comfortably communicate but you can force yourself to given enough practice and resolve. Last thing I want is to antagonize someone more than I have to. Dealing with troublesome situations just sometimes has to be done to better function in life.

[Novorobo]

A simple "I want to go back to my music, book, or videogame" is fine. Ignoring them really is not. The world is not your safe space.

You're not entitled for a reply from someone should you bother them. And anyone willing to punch someone over that seriously has a few screws loose.

And would probably go around punching people no matter what the victims did.

That said, it does sound needlessly antagonistic to ignore someone who, for all you know, is NOT like that. Excuse for punching? Hell no. Something we can strive to make "not the norm"? That sounds reasonable.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

You're not entitled for a reply from someone should you bother them. And anyone willing to punch someone over that seriously has a few screws loose.

And would probably go around punching people no matter what the victims did.

That said, it does sound needlessly antagonistic to ignore someone who, for all you know, is NOT like that. Excuse for punching? Hell no. Something we can strive to make "not the norm"? That sounds reasonable.

They shouldn't be walking around, bothering content people with frivolity. I'm not going to give you the time of day if you come at me with something that I don't care about.

[Lady Scylla]

And would probably go around punching people no matter what the victims did.

That said, it does sound needlessly antagonistic to ignore someone who, for all you know, is NOT like that. Excuse for punching? Hell no. Something we can strive to make "not the norm"? That sounds reasonable.

They shouldn't be walking around, bothering content people with frivolity. I'm not going to give you the time of day if you come at me with something that I don't care about.

Well, by all means, if it's something important like I'm in danger, bother me. If you're going to bother me only so you can drop some sleazy pick-up line and try to hit on me, then you can rightfully go to hell.

[Salus Maior]

Bothering people who obviously don't want to be bothered is rude and uncalled for.

Amen. I'd rather not be interrupted when I'm listening to music before going to work. And I wouldn't do that to anyone else either.

Unless the issue is very important, like "OMG help us a guy's having a heart attack" important, you shouldn't be bothering someone like that.

[Salus Maior]

Yet again, after saying "not interested, no thank you, I have a headache" you can ignore all you want, you have covered your social obligation.

There is no such social obligation. A person has every right to ignore a person who's trying to bother them.

If you think they're an asshole for doing so, that's your problem. What you're saying is no where near a universal thing.

[Ifreann]

They shouldn't be walking around, bothering content people with frivolity. I'm not going to give you the time of day if you come at me with something that I don't care about.

Well, by all means, if it's something important like I'm in danger, bother me. If you're going to bother me only so you can drop some sleazy pick-up line and try to hit on me, then you can rightfully go to hell.

Could I drop some sleazy pick-up lines after saving you from danger?

"That bus would have hit me, you saved me life!"
"You know, this is why your mother told you to wear clean underwear everyday" *furious eyebrow waggling*

[Jeistic]

Unnecessarily gendered thread.

true.