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Which of the following do you want to keep post-Brexit

Freedom of Movement
31
13%
Single Market Access
62
25%
Both of the Above
102
41%
Neither of the Above
53
21%
 
Total votes : 248

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:33 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328

Vaz gone.

(taken from the article)

Is the Sun (or whoever) claiming that it has pictures taken from inside his apartment? Is this hidden cameras or leaked footage, if the latter, who was taking it?
"Public interest" I'm sure, but does that make it legal to bug a sitting politician's properties when you're not the security services?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:46 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328

Vaz gone.

(taken from the article)

Is the Sun (or whoever) claiming that it has pictures taken from inside his apartment? Is this hidden cameras or leaked footage, if the latter, who was taking it?
"Public interest" I'm sure, but does that make it legal to bug a sitting politician's properties when you're not the security services?


If The Sun does it, it's not illegal.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:05 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328

Vaz gone.

(taken from the article)

Is the Sun (or whoever) claiming that it has pictures taken from inside his apartment? Is this hidden cameras or leaked footage, if the latter, who was taking it?
"Public interest" I'm sure, but does that make it legal to bug a sitting politician's properties when you're not the security services?


Looks to me like one of the prostitutes filmed it with a hidden camera on them, then has either solid the story after the event or made an agreement before the event to do it.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:07 am

Not entirely sure I want to think about where it was hidden...
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:08 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Not entirely sure I want to think about where it was hidden...

*exaggerated wink*

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:12 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328

Vaz gone.

(taken from the article)

Is the Sun (or whoever) claiming that it has pictures taken from inside his apartment? Is this hidden cameras or leaked footage, if the latter, who was taking it?
"Public interest" I'm sure, but does that make it legal to bug a sitting politician's properties when you're not the security services?

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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:06 am

Merizoc wrote:Read all of that and I don't regret it.


i always strive to ensure that every souseiseki post provides an enjoyable reading experience

Ok, interesting, and we do not have a presidential system in the UK, which is why May is PM. May got over 50% of the vote in her constituency as MP and won the leadership of the Conservative to become PM this year. Whilst I have issues with the FPTP system, Theresa May is also correct to say she has the mandate from 2015. That said, I wouldn't rule out an election early next year and this would obviously require repealing the fixed term parliament.


this was all covered, yes

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1. yes
2. thanks!


Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328

Vaz gone.

(taken from the article)

Is the Sun (or whoever) claiming that it has pictures taken from inside his apartment? Is this hidden cameras or leaked footage, if the latter, who was taking it?
"Public interest" I'm sure, but does that make it legal to bug a sitting politician's properties when you're not the security services?


if only we had a chance to clamp down on this exact kind of unethical borderline illegal/illegal activity in the past
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:23 am


Its a fucking disgrace that people face attacks and abuse over something so fucking trivial such as their nationality or ethnic background, especially if it goes so far that someone loses their life over it. I hope the ones who cause this kind of shit wise up and stop, or get caught and sent off to prison for what they have done.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:24 am

David Davis's single market stance 'not government policy'

BrexitSec has been treating his opinion as fact again.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:25 am

Vassenor wrote:David Davis's single market stance 'not government policy'

BrexitSec has been treating his opinion as fact again.

Brexitary*

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:30 am

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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:35 am

http://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-9f0d-A ... 87g7SmECUl

Ok, so the Morning Star has published the concern of the Corbynist MP Jon Trickett that Saving Labour may look to influence the Unite general secretary election due to the fact it has amassed a great deal of data on about 60,000 supporters, coupled with claims they have recruited 120,000 supporters. There also seems to be concerns about 'the moderates' retaining data from the Owen Smith campaign.

All in all, the Corbynists seem a lot more startled than they should be at this stage, especially if they're about to win.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:42 am


*gobbles expired radiation pills furiously*

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:43 am

Ifreann wrote:

*gobbles expired radiation pills furiously*

Anu cheeki breeki.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:44 am


A friend who works there says it's quite sensationalised.

Sellafield published a response to Panorama.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nda- ... n-panorama
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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:45 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:

A friend who works there says it's quite sensationalised.

Sellafield published a response to Panorama.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nda- ... n-panorama

I call vested interests.

EDIT: Ok, kidding, but I really wanted to say that. I know shit all about nuclear stuff, but as a layman I found the Panorama doc quite concerning.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:48 am

Wolfmanne2 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:A friend who works there says it's quite sensationalised.

Sellafield published a response to Panorama.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nda- ... n-panorama

I call vested interests.

I call a lack of public understanding of radiation, nuclear safety, and the issues faced at Sellafield.
I haven't watched the documentary, but my friend has.

Where the BBC article says "a task/building that should have 60 people manning it may be manned by a minimum of 6 people" does not mean that 6 people are doing the jobs of 60 - which appears to be the angle it's going for.
It's rather a quite tacit admission that the jobs of 60 aren't being done and can't be done, because they can't staff it to that level.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:48 am

Wolfmanne2 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:A friend who works there says it's quite sensationalised.

Sellafield published a response to Panorama.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nda- ... n-panorama

I call vested interests.

EDIT: Ok, kidding, but I really wanted to say that. I know shit all about nuclear stuff, but as a layman I found the Panorama doc quite concerning.

I'm sure you would, as that's what it was obviously designed to do, whether it was right or wrong, misleading or not in how it presented itself.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:51 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:*gobbles expired radiation pills furiously*

Anu cheeki breeki.

Actually, now that I think of it, I can't remember where we put those pills.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Anu cheeki breeki.

Actually, now that I think of it, I can't remember where we put those pills.

Blowout soon stalker.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Anu cheeki breeki.

Actually, now that I think of it, I can't remember where we put those pills.

Wouldn't those have been issued 59 years ago?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:00 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Actually, now that I think of it, I can't remember where we put those pills.

Wouldn't those have been issued 59 years ago?

14 years ago.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Wouldn't those have been issued 59 years ago?

14 years ago.

Oh, okay. What happened 14 years ago?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:25 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Read all of that and I don't regret it.


i always strive to ensure that every souseiseki post provides an enjoyable reading experience

Ok, interesting, and we do not have a presidential system in the UK, which is why May is PM. May got over 50% of the vote in her constituency as MP and won the leadership of the Conservative to become PM this year. Whilst I have issues with the FPTP system, Theresa May is also correct to say she has the mandate from 2015. That said, I wouldn't rule out an election early next year and this would obviously require repealing the fixed term parliament.


this was all covered, yes

2 things.
1. Are you Alyakia?
2. This is the most serious and elegant I've seen you in more than 3 lines. Aq'd. Awesome analysis!


1. yes
2. thanks!


Imperializt Russia wrote:(taken from the article)

Is the Sun (or whoever) claiming that it has pictures taken from inside his apartment? Is this hidden cameras or leaked footage, if the latter, who was taking it?
"Public interest" I'm sure, but does that make it legal to bug a sitting politician's properties when you're not the security services?


if only we had a chance to clamp down on this exact kind of unethical borderline illegal/illegal activity in the past


What asking for drugs and soliciting prostitutes?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:27 am

Vassenor wrote:David Davis's single market stance 'not government policy'

BrexitSec has been treating his opinion as fact again.


So now you agree single market, no free movement etc is possible? Make up your mind.
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