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Which of the following do you want to keep post-Brexit

Freedom of Movement
31
13%
Single Market Access
62
25%
Both of the Above
102
41%
Neither of the Above
53
21%
 
Total votes : 248

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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:56 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Know what else I found on the front page of the Beeb?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37894965
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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:56 am

So did HMS Vanguard also get banned, or is it just a coincidence they don't post when Lamadia is banned?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:02 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I think that is referencing the poster you're thinking of.

I don't think it's strictly directed at you.


I thought she got banned?

Besides, it's like saying "Biggie Smalls" infront of a mirror three times, it may not work but why tempt fate?

I don't know if she got banned. In the last big confrontation, Wolf got banned for 10 days and she didn't, unless she was banned later for the same offence, or a different one.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:05 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
I thought she got banned?

Besides, it's like saying "Biggie Smalls" infront of a mirror three times, it may not work but why tempt fate?

I don't know if she got banned. In the last big confrontation, Wolf got banned for 10 days and she didn't, unless she was banned later for the same offence, or a different one.


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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:06 am

Frank Zipper wrote:So did HMS Vanguard also get banned, or is it just a coincidence they don't post when Lamadia is banned?

Interesting coincidence.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:10 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:So did HMS Vanguard also get banned, or is it just a coincidence they don't post when Lamadia is banned?

Interesting coincidence.

Doubtful, since the two characters so different (they are very different characters from their wider posting history) would be a Frazers-level feat of split personality posting.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:10 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Interesting coincidence.

Doubtful, since the two characters so different (they are very different characters from their wider posting history) would be a Frazers-level feat of split personality posting.

I've seen worse in the real world. But chances are, just an interesting coincidence. No need to speculate on another poster's mental health.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:14 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Doubtful, since the two characters so different (they are very different characters from their wider posting history) would be a Frazers-level feat of split personality posting.

I've seen worse in the real world. But chances are, just an interesting coincidence. No need to speculate on another poster's mental health.

I didn't mean it in the literal, medical sense. The metaphorical sense of radically different, bordering opposing, personalities used to portray multiple characters a person controls. Hence why I called it "split personality posting".

Frazers was of course famous for a feat of this where his Unionist account, Frazers, was also secretly in control of two vitriolic Republican characters on alt accounts.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:34 am

Frank Zipper wrote:So did HMS Vanguard also get banned, or is it just a coincidence they don't post when Lamadia is banned?

Oh, I could try offering similar views.

Send all the homeless into other countries! Stop giving welfare to the leeches!

Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:37 am

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:So did HMS Vanguard also get banned, or is it just a coincidence they don't post when Lamadia is banned?

Oh, I could try offering similar views.

Send all the homeless into other countries! Stop giving welfare to the leeches!

Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.

Please dont, we get enough of that.
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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:51 am

Greater Pareidolia wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may



we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly


I think yuh immigration is a pretty important factor to take into account, given how immigration is how, for instance, the attackers at Bataclan entered France. And no matter how many people I abhor live on your islands, I'd rather not see it turned into a wasteland because some people were too concerned with safe spaces than with safe ty.


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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:54 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Oh, I could try offering similar views.

Send all the homeless into other countries! Stop giving welfare to the leeches!

Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.

Please dont, we get enough of that.

Brexit was a democratic vote so it must be allowed to continue no matter what.

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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:57 am

Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.


i must agree that i am super looking forward to shitting all over any leave protests that happen

we won, get over it! ugh, fucking protestors blocking our roads! get a job!

hopefully this lead to a moment of self-awareness. however, the police and media will go easy on them, so they'll probably even more smug in relation to future protests. ugh.

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may



we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly


So why ones India, a nation of over a billion people want more of their people to be allowed to work in the UK? Wouldn't they want to keep such educated individuals in their own system?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEsyIuTrO8
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Postby Olivaero » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:10 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:So did HMS Vanguard also get banned, or is it just a coincidence they don't post when Lamadia is banned?

Oh, I could try offering similar views.

Send all the homeless into other countries! Stop giving welfare to the leeches!

Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.

Don't forget the old chestnut, there's no point in a formal education after a certain point, universities should be shut down.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:10 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Oh, I could try offering similar views.

Send all the homeless into other countries! Stop giving welfare to the leeches!

Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.

Don't forget the old chestnut, there's no point in a formal education after a certain point, universities should be shut down.

No point in life experience, you can just be educated enough to know everything about the real world.

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Postby Olivaero » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:13 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Olivaero wrote:Don't forget the old chestnut, there's no point in a formal education after a certain point, universities should be shut down.

No point in life experience, you can just be educated enough to know everything about the real world.

Not sure what point you are making, I've never argued against real life experience. HMS Vanguard did once literally say there is no point in university.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:14 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:No point in life experience, you can just be educated enough to know everything about the real world.

Not sure what point you are making, I've never argued against real life experience. HMS Vanguard did once literally say there is no point in university.

Not arguing with you. It's a point made by a certain someone on the right in this thread frequently.

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:16 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:No point in life experience, you can just be educated enough to know everything about the real world.

Not sure what point you are making, I've never argued against real life experience. HMS Vanguard did once literally say there is no point in university.

No, he said there was no point in educating people, at any level. Apparently, education has no effect on intelligence, none whatsoever.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:18 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Boris Johnson did nothing wrong.

Why is the EU punishing Britain?

Protesters shouldn't be allowed to protest.


i must agree that i am super looking forward to shitting all over any leave protests that happen

we won, get over it! ugh, fucking protestors blocking our roads! get a job!

hopefully this lead to a moment of self-awareness. however, the police and media will go easy on them, so they'll probably even more smug in relation to future protests. ugh.

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
So why ones India, a nation of over a billion people want more of their people to be allowed to work in the UK? Wouldn't they want to keep such educated individuals in their own system?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEsyIuTrO8


Is a 8 minute video about some comedian mocking UKIPs immigration "policy" really a response to why India would want skilled and educated nationals moving to they UK instead of contributing to their own economy?

The answer is no, it's not.
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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:21 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
i must agree that i am super looking forward to shitting all over any leave protests that happen

we won, get over it! ugh, fucking protestors blocking our roads! get a job!

hopefully this lead to a moment of self-awareness. however, the police and media will go easy on them, so they'll probably even more smug in relation to future protests. ugh.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEsyIuTrO8


Is a 8 minute video about some comedian mocking UKIPs immigration "policy" really a response to why India would want skilled and educated nationals moving to they UK instead of contributing to their own economy?

The answer is no, it's not.


why would the UK want to educate people then tell them to fuck off immediately after?

why would any country want any educated people to leave ever?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:30 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Is a 8 minute video about some comedian mocking UKIPs immigration "policy" really a response to why India would want skilled and educated nationals moving to they UK instead of contributing to their own economy?

The answer is no, it's not.


why would the UK want to educate people then tell them to fuck off immediately after?

why would any country want any educated people to leave ever?


Because May in charge. Brexit means Brexit! :p

Freedom of movement was supposed to prevent one country having high unemployment while another has a labour shortage. But since most countries seem to have unemployment problems, not labour shortages freedom of movement is less critical.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:38 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
why would the UK want to educate people then tell them to fuck off immediately after?

why would any country want any educated people to leave ever?


Because May in charge. Brexit means Brexit! :p

Freedom of movement was supposed to prevent one country having high unemployment while another has a labour shortage. But since most countries seem to have unemployment problems, not labour shortages freedom of movement is less critical.

Strictly speaking the quote-unquote problem of free movement of peoples in the EU was that when Eastern Europe gained accession, eastern Europe was much poorer than western Europe and so they decided to make for better lives in the west than they had in the east - either for themselves, or to support families at home.

One way to control this would be to limit how "free" the free movement of labour is, but leaving it with the individual nationstates (especially in a world where May goes from anti-everybody Home Secretary to anti-everybody PM) is going to get no-one going anywhere fast.

Ironically, probably the best compromise on free movement of labour would come with an EU superstate, able to shunt large numbers of workers on strategic expansions of major industry or otherwise very large infrastructure projects.

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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:33 pm

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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:35 pm

Souseiseki wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwruvbKWIAArxcy.jpg

COOKIE MONSTER SUPPORT TROOPS

I can't stop laughing.

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:39 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwruvbKWIAArxcy.jpg

COOKIE MONSTER SUPPORT TROOPS

I can't stop laughing.

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