UK Politics Thread V: Upon This Blasted Heath

[Greater Pareidolia]

But were they or were they not people who used the migrant crisis as a cover?

Also, again, this. It takes more to be French than to be born there. FFS, many 4th generation kids still don't speak the language properly here.

[Great Nepal]

But were they or were they not people who used the migrant crisis as a cover?

Also, again, [url=https://imagesoffunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/This-is-Hasan-he-was-born-in-Sweden.-Hasan-is-Swedish-muslim.-This-is-Misho-he-was-born-in-an-aquarium.-Misho-is-a-fish-hamster-comparison-trolling.jpg]this[url]. It takes more to be French than to be born there. FFS, many 4th generation kids still don't speak the language properly here.

Ohh so if someone's say illiterate they aren't a true native^tm? What exactly is your definition?

[Alvecia]

But were they or were they not people who used the migrant crisis as a cover?

I honestly don't know that it matters.
To suggest that
a) they wouldn't have been radicalised, or that
b) they wouldn't have been able to travel to Syria and back were it not for the current crisis
is quite frankly very naive.

[Greater Pareidolia]

But were they or were they not people who used the migrant crisis as a cover?

Also, again, [url=https://imagesoffunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/This-is-Hasan-he-was-born-in-Sweden.-Hasan-is-Swedish-muslim.-This-is-Misho-he-was-born-in-an-aquarium.-Misho-is-a-fish-hamster-comparison-trolling.jpg]this[url]. It takes more to be French than to be born there. FFS, many 4th generation kids still don't speak the language properly here.

Ohh so if someone's say illiterate they aren't a true native^tm? What exactly is your definition?

Putting words in my mouth, Nepal.

Part of being a native is being in touch with local culture and adhering to it.

[Alvecia]

Ohh so if someone's say illiterate they aren't a true native^tm? What exactly is your definition?

Putting words in my mouth, Nepal.

Part of being a native is being in touch with local culture and adhering to it.

Not really.
Take the Native Americans/Colonial Americans as an example.
Today they have two rather distinct cultures, yet both would be considered native.

[Greater Pareidolia]

But were they or were they not people who used the migrant crisis as a cover?

I honestly don't know that it matters.
To suggest that
a) they wouldn't have been radicalised, or that
b) they wouldn't have been able to travel to Syria and back were it not for the current crisis
is quite frankly very naive.

You remind me of the "Burglars will get in if they really want, no matter what" argument. While that's true, there's no need to hold the door open for them. But I digest.

I am not suggesting any of the sort, anyway.

[Alvecia]

I honestly don't know that it matters.
To suggest that
a) they wouldn't have been radicalised, or that
b) they wouldn't have been able to travel to Syria and back were it not for the current crisis
is quite frankly very naive.

You remind me of the "Burglars will get in if they really want, no matter what" argument. While that's true, there's no need to hold the door open for them. But I digest.

I am not suggesting any of the sort, anyway.

That's kind of a terrible analogy because it assumes that the only people trying to get in are burglars.

[Great Nepal]

Ohh so if someone's say illiterate they aren't a true native^tm? What exactly is your definition?

Putting words in my mouth, Nepal.

Part of being a native is being in touch with local culture and adhering to it.

So a particularly rebellious teens aren't true native^tm because they dislike/ definitely don't adhere to local culture.
No its called pointing out how the terrible criteria for defining true native^tm fails.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Ohh so if someone's say illiterate they aren't a true native^tm? What exactly is your definition?

Putting words in my mouth, Nepal.

Part of being a native is being in touch with local culture and adhering to it.

And who's to say the person in that image isn't? And what about people who can trace their ancestry back centuries without ever leaving the country, but who hate their culture and want nothing to do with it?

Might want to rethink your definition of "native".

[Frank Zipper]

Right wing foreigners trying to tell us we shouldn't allow foreign influence...

[Anywhere Else But Here]

I honestly don't know that it matters.
To suggest that
a) they wouldn't have been radicalised, or that
b) they wouldn't have been able to travel to Syria and back were it not for the current crisis
is quite frankly very naive.

You remind me of the "Burglars will get in if they really want, no matter what" argument. While that's true, there's no need to hold the door open for them. But I digest.

I am not suggesting any of the sort, anyway.

Digest?

[Greater Pareidolia]

Putting words in my mouth, Nepal.

Part of being a native is being in touch with local culture and adhering to it.

And who's to say the person in that image isn't? And what about people who can trace their ancestry back centuries without ever leaving the country, but who hate their culture and want nothing to do with it?

Might want to rethink your definition of "native".

Then they are free to leave. Nobody's keeping anybody here against their will (unless you're an incarcerated convict.)

[Imperializt Russia]

And who's to say the person in that image isn't? And what about people who can trace their ancestry back centuries without ever leaving the country, but who hate their culture and want nothing to do with it?

Might want to rethink your definition of "native".

Then they are free to leave. Nobody's keeping anybody here against their will (unless you're an incarcerated convict.)

Except capitalism.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

And who's to say the person in that image isn't? And what about people who can trace their ancestry back centuries without ever leaving the country, but who hate their culture and want nothing to do with it?

Might want to rethink your definition of "native".

Then they are free to leave. Nobody's keeping anybody here against their will (unless you're an incarcerated convict.)

What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I was challenging your definition of the word "native". Whether or not they're free to leave is irrelevant: are they a native if they don't particularly like the culture they were born into?

[Greater Pareidolia]

Then they are free to leave. Nobody's keeping anybody here against their will (unless you're an incarcerated convict.)

What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I was challenging your definition of the word "native". Whether or not they're free to leave is irrelevant: are they a native if they don't particularly like the culture they were born into?

They are. Self-hate is a very real thing, I see it on many different levels.

Anyway, OBVIOUSLY my understanding of the world native isn't just culture.

[Alvecia]

What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I was challenging your definition of the word "native". Whether or not they're free to leave is irrelevant: are they a native if they don't particularly like the culture they were born into?

They are. Self-hate is a very real thing, I see it on many different levels.

Anyway, OBVIOUSLY my understanding of the world native isn't just culture.

Sooo....should we just guess the other part of your understanding?

[Anywhere Else But Here]

What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I was challenging your definition of the word "native". Whether or not they're free to leave is irrelevant: are they a native if they don't particularly like the culture they were born into?

They are. Self-hate is a very real thing, I see it on many different levels.

Anyway, OBVIOUSLY my understanding of the world native isn't just culture.

I don't think you have an understanding of the word native, to be honest.

[Vassenor]

So how would immigration restrictions prevent 7/7?

Or anything that the IRA did?

[Greater Pareidolia]

They are. Self-hate is a very real thing, I see it on many different levels.

Anyway, OBVIOUSLY my understanding of the world native isn't just culture.

Sooo....should we just guess the other part of your understanding?

Yeah, go to town. I'm kinda done with spelling everything out.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Sooo....should we just guess the other part of your understanding?

Yeah, go to town. I'm kinda done with spelling everything out.

You've spelled nothing out. You've just twisted and turned on what constitutes a native in order to exclude the groups you don't like.

[Greater Pareidolia]

So how would immigration restrictions prevent 7/7?

Or anything that the IRA did?

Well, if immigration were curbed, the parents of the bombers would not have gotten into the UK.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

So how would immigration restrictions prevent 7/7?

Or anything that the IRA did?

Well, if immigration were curbed, the parents of the bombers would not have gotten into the UK.

I've been saying the same thing about the Angle and Saxon ancestors of many of our modern day criminals for years.

[Alvecia]

Sooo....should we just guess the other part of your understanding?

Yeah, go to town. I'm kinda done with spelling everything out.

Literally the only thing you've spelt out is culture.
Everything else is some whispy, ephemeral something that's as hard to pin down as air.

[Great Nepal]

Well, if immigration were curbed, the parents of the bombers would not have gotten into the UK.

I've been saying the same thing about the Angle and Saxon ancestors of many of our modern day criminals for years.

We should have just altered concentration of Hydrogen in the early universe to prevent all modern criminality. Do I win?

[Greater Pareidolia]

Well, if immigration were curbed, the parents of the bombers would not have gotten into the UK.

I've been saying the same thing about the Angle and Saxon ancestors of many of our modern day criminals for years.

Why stop there? #Europeforneanderthalsonly