UK Politics Thread V: Upon This Blasted Heath

[Freefall11111]

Aren't Walkers and Birds Eye British brands?

That's the joke.

[Ifreann]

walkers and birds eye are the next members of the rising prices to compensate for the pound train

It's fine. We'll produce local alternatives that are superior in quality for half the price.

[Hurdergaryp]

Aren't Walkers and Birds Eye British brands?

That's the joke.

And there are lots of jokes to be had in these fascinating times.

[Imperializt Russia]

It's fine. We'll produce local alternatives that are superior in quality for half the price.

I've packed boxes for at least 6 brands of fish finger, and they're all exactly the same product (except where it's salmon instead of cod, of course).

[Freefall11111]

I've packed boxes for at least 6 brands of fish finger, and they're all exactly the same product (except where it's salmon instead of cod, of course).

Spoiler: It's the same for pharmaceutical drugs.

[Ifreann]

I've packed boxes for at least 6 brands of fish finger, and they're all exactly the same product (except where it's salmon instead of cod, of course).

Stop the presses!

[Imperializt Russia]

I've packed boxes for at least 6 brands of fish finger, and they're all exactly the same product (except where it's salmon instead of cod, of course).

Stop the presses!

In fairness, most were individual supermarkets and their own brands.

Hey, I never signed an NDA.

[Ifreann]

Stop the presses!

In fairness, most were individual supermarkets and their own brands.

Hey, I never signed an NDA.

The British public must be made aware of this outrageous behaviour. Call the Daily Mail at once!

[Hurdergaryp]

In fairness, most were individual supermarkets and their own brands.

Hey, I never signed an NDA.

The British public must be made aware of this outrageous behaviour. Call the Daily Mail at once!

But that quality newspaper isn't done screaming bloody murder because of what a few judges said yet.

[Imperializt Russia]

In fairness, most were individual supermarkets and their own brands.

Hey, I never signed an NDA.

The British public must be made aware of this outrageous behaviour. Call the Daily Mail at once!

It's just the Free Market™ in action, Gooddddd.

[Souseiseki]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... s-says-may

Theresa May has dashed Indian hopes for a more liberal visa system for its nationals wanting to work in the UK by arguing that the current offer is generous enough.

Speaking on the way to her first bilateral meeting in Delhi, the prime minister argued that Britain was already able to attract the “brightest and best” from outside the EU. “The figures show that we issue more work visas to India than I think US, Australia and China put together. Nine out of 10 visa applications from India are already accepted. We have, I believe, a good system,” she said.

The comments will prove disappointing for some in the Indian government and business community who have argued for more of their highly skilled professional workers to be able to get six-month visas for the UK and other European countries. Will not raise visa quota for Indian nationals, says May

Prime minister says current system is ‘generous enough’ in a move which could hamper Delhi trade talks

The demand for more freedoms for Indian workers moving abroad was a part of trade negotiations with the EU, which stalled because of failure to agree on it and other issues.

Vince Cable, the former Lib Dem business secretary, said May’s refusal to agree to any such liberalisation in the past was a key stumbling block to trade talks between the EU and India. Although he admitted they were complex negotiations, he claimed that her unwillingness to budge was down to an obsession over getting the net migration numbers down as home secretary.

we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly

[Ifreann]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may

Theresa May has dashed Indian hopes for a more liberal visa system for its nationals wanting to work in the UK by arguing that the current offer is generous enough.

Speaking on the way to her first bilateral meeting in Delhi, the prime minister argued that Britain was already able to attract the “brightest and best” from outside the EU. “The figures show that we issue more work visas to India than I think US, Australia and China put together. Nine out of 10 visa applications from India are already accepted. We have, I believe, a good system,” she said.

The comments will prove disappointing for some in the Indian government and business community who have argued for more of their highly skilled professional workers to be able to get six-month visas for the UK and other European countries. Will not raise visa quota for Indian nationals, says May

Prime minister says current system is ‘generous enough’ in a move which could hamper Delhi trade talks

The demand for more freedoms for Indian workers moving abroad was a part of trade negotiations with the EU, which stalled because of failure to agree on it and other issues.

Vince Cable, the former Lib Dem business secretary, said May’s refusal to agree to any such liberalisation in the past was a key stumbling block to trade talks between the EU and India. Although he admitted they were complex negotiations, he claimed that her unwillingness to budge was down to an obsession over getting the net migration numbers down as home secretary.

we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly

Yes.

Everything is ruined forever.

[Fartsniffage]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may



we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly

Yes.

Everything is ruined forever.

Indeed. We're all coming to Ireland. I assume you have a large spare room?

[Ifreann]

Yes.

Everything is ruined forever.

Indeed. We're all coming to Ireland. I assume you have a large spare room?

Sorry, housing crisis. You'll have to bring tents.

[Fartsniffage]

Indeed. We're all coming to Ireland. I assume you have a large spare room?

Sorry, housing crisis. You'll have to bring tents.

Ah, so we should bring caravans.

Need your drive way tarmac'ed boss?

[Greater Pareidolia]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may

Theresa May has dashed Indian hopes for a more liberal visa system for its nationals wanting to work in the UK by arguing that the current offer is generous enough.

Speaking on the way to her first bilateral meeting in Delhi, the prime minister argued that Britain was already able to attract the “brightest and best” from outside the EU. “The figures show that we issue more work visas to India than I think US, Australia and China put together. Nine out of 10 visa applications from India are already accepted. We have, I believe, a good system,” she said.

The comments will prove disappointing for some in the Indian government and business community who have argued for more of their highly skilled professional workers to be able to get six-month visas for the UK and other European countries. Will not raise visa quota for Indian nationals, says May

Prime minister says current system is ‘generous enough’ in a move which could hamper Delhi trade talks

The demand for more freedoms for Indian workers moving abroad was a part of trade negotiations with the EU, which stalled because of failure to agree on it and other issues.

Vince Cable, the former Lib Dem business secretary, said May’s refusal to agree to any such liberalisation in the past was a key stumbling block to trade talks between the EU and India. Although he admitted they were complex negotiations, he claimed that her unwillingness to budge was down to an obsession over getting the net migration numbers down as home secretary.

we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly

I think yuh immigration is a pretty important factor to take into account, given how immigration is how, for instance, the attackers at Bataclan entered France. And no matter how many people I abhor live on your islands, I'd rather not see it turned into a wasteland because some people were too concerned with safe spaces than with safe ty.

[Great Nepal]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may



we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly

I think yuh immigration is a pretty important factor to take into account, given how immigration is how, for instance, the attackers at Bataclan entered France. And no matter how many people I abhor live on your islands, I'd rather not see it turned into a wasteland because some people were too concerned with safe spaces than with safe ty.

Yes we should definitely make incredibly rare event occurrence with generally minimal impact otherwise a foundation for our public policy.

[Vassenor]

I think yuh immigration is a pretty important factor to take into account, given how immigration is how, for instance, the attackers at Bataclan entered France. And no matter how many people I abhor live on your islands, I'd rather not see it turned into a wasteland because some people were too concerned with safe spaces than with safe ty.

Yes we should definitely make incredibly rare event occurrence with generally minimal impact otherwise a foundation for our public policy.

You're letting facts and logic cloud your judgement again. Remember that 7/7 was done by native Britons, after all.

[Greater Pareidolia]

Yes we should definitely make incredibly rare event occurrence with generally minimal impact otherwise a foundation for our public policy.

You're letting facts and logic cloud your judgement again. Remember that 7/7 was done by native Britons, after all.

Native Britons. Hah.

I am reminded of this.
There is more to being a native than being 2nd generation.

[Great Nepal]

You're letting facts and logic cloud your judgement again. Remember that 7/7 was done by native Britons, after all.

Ahha yes; I forgot how we're not supposed to do that anymore and instead should rely on strong feelings. My apologies.

You're letting facts and logic cloud your judgement again. Remember that 7/7 was done by native Britons, after all.

Native Britons. Hah.

I am reminded of this.
There is more to being a native than being 2nd generation.

Cool, so what does it involve? Also doesn't change the fact that basing public policy based on rare, extreme events is a bad idea.

[Imperializt Russia]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/06/uk-will-not-offer-more-work-visas-to-indian-nationals-says-may



we're going to fucking tank UK-india and UK-EU talks over immigration and people are still going to complain about muh immigration endlessly

I think yuh immigration is a pretty important factor to take into account, given how immigration is how, for instance, the attackers at Bataclan entered France. And no matter how many people I abhor live on your islands, I'd rather not see it turned into a wasteland because some people were too concerned with safe spaces than with safe ty.

They were French nationals.

[Greater Pareidolia]

I think yuh immigration is a pretty important factor to take into account, given how immigration is how, for instance, the attackers at Bataclan entered France. And no matter how many people I abhor live on your islands, I'd rather not see it turned into a wasteland because some people were too concerned with safe spaces than with safe ty.

They were French nationals.

I see. I see.

Another bomber carried a passport belonging to a 25-year-old Syrian named "Ahmad al-Mohammad".[23][24] A passport-holder claiming to be a Syrian refugee with that name was registered on Leros in October upon his arrival from Turkey.[26] The dead attacker's fingerprints matched those taken at the registration on Leros.[23][27][28][29][30] French officials concluded that "Ahmad al-Mohammad" is probably a dead Syrian soldier whose passport was stolen after he was killed in Syria.[31][32] ISIS identified him as "Ukasah al-Iraqi", indicating that he was from Iraq.[33]
The third bomber has not been named by French police yet, but his image released by the authorities has been matched by the BBC with a photo on arrival papers at Leros belonging to a man travelling together with "Ahmad al-Mohammed" under the name of "M. al-Mahmod".[34] Like the other unidentified bomber, ISIS identified him as an Iraqi and called him "Ali al-Iraqi".[33]

[Alvecia]

They were French nationals.

I see. I see.

Another bomber carried a passport belonging to a 25-year-old Syrian named "Ahmad al-Mohammad".[23][24] A passport-holder claiming to be a Syrian refugee with that name was registered on Leros in October upon his arrival from Turkey.[26] The dead attacker's fingerprints matched those taken at the registration on Leros.[23][27][28][29][30] French officials concluded that "Ahmad al-Mohammad" is probably a dead Syrian soldier whose passport was stolen after he was killed in Syria.[31][32] ISIS identified him as "Ukasah al-Iraqi", indicating that he was from Iraq.[33]
The third bomber has not been named by French police yet, but his image released by the authorities has been matched by the BBC with a photo on arrival papers at Leros belonging to a man travelling together with "Ahmad al-Mohammed" under the name of "M. al-Mahmod".[34] Like the other unidentified bomber, ISIS identified him as an Iraqi and called him "Ali al-Iraqi".[33]

All of the known Paris attackers were EU citizens, who crossed borders without difficulty, albeit registered as terrorism suspects.[23] According to the French prime minister, Manuel Valls, several of the perpetrators had exploited Europe's immigration crisis to enter the continent undetected.[25] At least some, including the alleged leader Abdelhamid Abaaoud, had visited Syria and returned radicalised. Jean-Charles Brisard, a French expert on terrorism, called this a change of paradigm, in that returning European citizens were themselves the attackers.[26] The Los Angeles Times reported that more than 3,000 Europeans have travelled to Syria and joined ISIL and other radical groups.[26]

[Frank Zipper]

There is more to being a native than being 2nd generation.

No there isn't.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

You're letting facts and logic cloud your judgement again. Remember that 7/7 was done by native Britons, after all.

Native Britons. Hah.

I am reminded of this.
There is more to being a native than being 2nd generation.

Bloody hell.

No.