Scottish Independence 2016?

[Harold I]

In recent months, since the UK voted in favour of Brexit, there has been a lot of talk of Scotland having a second referendum, because Scotland voted to remain 62% to 38%. The First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, said that "the UK we voted for in 2014 doesn't exist anymore". This comes after many Scottish voters voted to stay in the UK because of an assurance that the UK would remain in the EU during the campaign in the Scottish referendum.

After seeing the results of the EU referendum, I am curious as to how Scotland now feels about Scottish Independence. I think that I would rather have Scotland remain in the UK, but if it was the wish for the majority of Scottish people to gain independence, I would respect and accept the result. I would also rather see a federal United Kingdom, with England, Wales and Scotland each having maximum devolution and try to work something out for Northern Ireland separately.

[Cuprum]

Nah, the uk is an efficient nation, not like Irak or Syria where the kurds are nearly independent.

[Arumbia67]

I'm honestly surprised the Tories opposed Scottish independence. It would of gotten rid of a lot of safe labour voters.

[Harold I]

Nah, the uk is an efficient nation, not like Irak or Syria where the kurds are nearly independent.

I'll have to disagree with you there, it seems as though the UK is more divided than I've ever seen it. I think the Scottish referendum in 2014, General Election 2015, EU referendum and the Scottish Government elections all suggest that the SNP and Scottish Independence aren't issues that are going to calm slightly, if at all. I think the Scots want to pursue a different future to the rest of the UK.

[Napkiraly]

I'm honestly surprised the Tories opposed Scottish independence. It would of gotten rid of a lot of safe labour voters.

The Tories are quite pro-unionism and into British nationalism. It's not surprising.

Plus, Labour isn't actually that big in Scotland anymore. The SNP decimated them.

[Cetacea]

Scotland should deshackle itself from England and then go and declare itself part of Scandinavia:)

[Vassenor]

The whole point of Brexit was stopping a foreign power imposing their will on us.

At the same time imposing our will on the Scots over their own.

#logic

[Harold I]

I'm honestly surprised the Tories opposed Scottish independence. It would of gotten rid of a lot of safe labour voters.

The Tories are quite pro-unionism and into British nationalism. It's not surprising.

Plus, Labour isn't actually that big in Scotland anymore. The SNP decimated them.

They're now the third largest party in the Scottish Parliament, after the Conservatives. I'm surprised that the SNP lost it's overall majority though.

[Socialist Nordia]

Brexit made me a Scottish independence supporter.

[New confederate ramenia]

As long as Northern Ireland joins Ireland and independent Scotland joins Ireland too as "Northern England."

[Quokkastan]

A year ago I would have said they should stick it out.

Now I'd have a hard time blaming them for wanting to leave.

[Nariterrr]

Yes, one because I want England to feel the hypocrisy and because the only reason Scotland stayed was because of the EU, which the UK has now left.

[The Jaclean Empire]

My opinion as an American doesn't matter, but I don't think Scotland breaking away is what the UK needs rn.

[Ifreann]

Scotland should deshackle itself from England and then go and declare itself part of Scandinavia:)

No, no, no. Scotland should join their Celtic cousins in the Republic of Ireland. The primary benefits of this would be remaining within the EU, and trolling people with RL border gore.

[Cetacea]

As long as Northern Ireland joins Ireland and independent Scotland joins Ireland too as "Northern England."

you do know there is already a Northern England which is, um, the North of England

moreover neither Irish nor Scot would ever call themselves "englanders"

[Harold I]

My opinion as an American doesn't matter, but I don't think Scotland breaking away is what the UK needs rn.

I think the SNP has realised that, but I think when Brexit happens, they will call for another referendum.

[New confederate ramenia]

As long as Northern Ireland joins Ireland and independent Scotland joins Ireland too as "Northern England."

you do know there is already a Northern England which is, um, the North of England

moreover neither Irish nor Scot would ever call themselves "englanders"

Ok, Northern Britain then. Or it can stay Scotland. I just want a reverse situation where Ireland is united and Britain isn't.

Scotland should deshackle itself from England and then go and declare itself part of Scandinavia:)

No, no, no. Scotland should join their Celtic cousins in the Republic of Ireland. The primary benefits of this would be remaining within the EU, and trolling people with RL border gore.

If Scotland leaves and joins Ireland and Ireland isn't united, oh god...

[The East Marches]

Like the Scottish national animal, the Unicorn, an independent Scotland is quite imaginary.

[Ifreann]

you do know there is already a Northern England which is, um, the North of England

moreover neither Irish nor Scot would ever call themselves "englanders"

Ok, Northern Britain then. Or it can stay Scotland. I just want a reverse situation where Ireland is united and Britain isn't.

No, no, no. Scotland should join their Celtic cousins in the Republic of Ireland. The primary benefits of this would be remaining within the EU, and trolling people with RL border gore.

If Scotland leaves and joins Ireland and Ireland isn't united, oh god...

It'll be great.

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Like the Scottish national animal, the Unicorn, an independent Scotland is quite imaginary.

Imaginary, or pending advances in genetic engineering?

[Harold I]

Like the Scottish national animal, the Unicorn, an independent Scotland is quite imaginary.

It was 10% of the vote away from reality in 2014, I think there will be much more support for it this time as this was one of the reasons Scotland voted to Remain in the UK.

[Great Kauthar]

YES! But I don't know about now. The SNP are incompetent, lying morons.
We pissed over the graves of our ancestors in 2014, we won't do it again. ALBA GU BRATH!

My opinion as an American doesn't matter, but I don't think Scotland breaking away is what the UK needs rn.

You're right, the only people who deserve any opinion on this situation are the people of Scotland.

Also for those that say Scotland can't survive independent: THINK AGAIN

[Risottia]

Scotland should deshackle itself from England and then go and declare itself part of Scandinavia:)

Scandinavia, unlikely. Nordic Council, that's another story.

[Great Kauthar]

Like the Scottish national animal, the Unicorn, an independent Scotland is quite imaginary.

The fact that the unicorn is the national animal of Scotland gives reason to believe that it could've existed at one point. They've been cited through history several times, and fossils of what's believed to be unicorns do exist.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Scotland should deshackle itself from England and then go and declare itself part of Scandinavia:)

No, no, no. Scotland should join their Celtic cousins in the Republic of Ireland. The primary benefits of this would be remaining within the EU, and trolling people with RL border gore.

Pretty sure the UN has declared by now that border gore provides a casus belli

[Risottia]

Scotland should deshackle itself from England and then go and declare itself part of Scandinavia:)

No, no, no. Scotland should join their Celtic cousins in the Republic of Ireland. The primary benefits of this would be remaining within the EU, and trolling people with RL border gore.

But we'd have to write a new EU directive about the spelling of whiskey/whisky.